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State funding cuts deficit, class sizes won't increase Posted By Sarah Karp On Monday, June 28, 2010
In Finance and Budgets

The Doomsday scenario—featuring CPS classes bulging with 35 students—has been averted, but deep cuts are still on the table and teachers are being pressed hard to forego pay raises. 

The district is now shifting much of the burden of the budget shortfall to high schools. And at a press conference Monday, CEO Ron Huberman was joined by two politically-connected civic leaders to pressure teachers to give up their negotiated 4 percent raises. 

"I challenge the labor unions to do the right thing so that we can open the schools fully operational," said Leon Finney Jr., president of The Woodlawn Organization. Juan Rangel, president of the United Neighborhood Organization, told teachers that they should recognize that flat salaries are the "new normal." UNO, a 20-year-old community organization, runs eight charter schools, and Rangel said their teachers will not get a pay raise next year. 

When a reporter pointed out to him that UNO’s teachers are not unionized and therefore do not have much choice, Rangel noted only that teachers are still returning to work next year.   

Incoming Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis accused Huberman of trying to strong-arm the union and repeated her call for him to provide a detailed budget so that union leaders can help the administration find cuts that will not hurt students. Lewis, who officially takes office on July 1, cannot make decisions such as conceding salary increases without teachers’ approval, but says she is not inclined to bring an "either-or scenario" to her members. 

Lewis also pointed out that the union contract calls for a hefty increase in health care costs, which would offset the raises teachers are slated to receive. 

On the same day that Huberman amped up the pressure on teachers for more financial concessions, he was also celebrating a budget victory: Huberman said state officials were able to save the day by rolling back more than $1 billion in education cuts proposed by Gov. Pat Quinn. Such a cut would have meant $300 million less for CPS. 

Instead, it looks like the state’s education budget will only take a $300 million hit, and CPS will only lose $57 million. (Quinn has yet to sign a budget, however.) 

That leaves the district with a $370 million deficit, and Huberman announced Monday that he plans to keep elementary class sizes at 28 students. CPS will also pay for full-day kindergarten, rather than the half-day option that Huberman previously proposed. 

Still, the CEO was careful to emphasize that not everything is off the table. High school class sizes will increase to 33 students from 31, and other programs will take dramatic hits, including enrichment activities, magnet and selective enrollment school programs and transportation. 

Some 1,200 teachers still stand to lose their jobs. And funding to charter schools will be reduced, though not as much as the 18 percent originally proposed.   "We are not sure of the severity of the cuts to each of these programs," Huberman said.  His administration will make those decisions as they put together the budget over the coming weeks. 

The new fiscal year starts July 1, but it is not uncommon for the district to release a budget and hold hearings on it in July. One possible complication:  Five schools have some of their students start school in July, while another 200 begin in August. 

Huberman said he decided to keep elementary class sizes level because research shows small classes are especially important in kindergarten through 3rd grade. But he admitted that different research shows class size is important at all different grade levels. 

Lewis, a chemistry teacher from King College Prep, said the fact that Huberman targeted high schools shows he and his staff don't know much about education. More high school students will drop out, and instead of the “culture of calm” Huberman is trying to create with his $60 million school safety initiative, there will be a culture of chaos, she said. 

"You are looking at increasing the high school teacher load from 140 to 165 [students]," Lewis said. "That is 165 essays, 165 lab books. If you are not a teacher who just hands out worksheets, if you care about how students write and how they think, then this will be a significant increase."  

Lewis said she met with Huberman for dinner last week, but the two didn't discuss these difficult issues. She said she was disappointed that Huberman was airing the issue in the press, instead of talking to her. 

Parents from the advocacy group Raise Your Hand also were put off by the organization of Monday’s press conference. The group of mostly North Side parents came together to lobby for more education money and were asked to stand behind Huberman. 

But leaders said they did not know that the CEO was going to use the occasion to lean on the union, and said they do not have a position on what the union should do. 

Meanwhile, parent Faith Spencer said that applauding state officials for maintaining education funding sends the wrong message. Maintaining funding when all other expenses are going up is not a victory, she said. 

Members of Raise Your Hand want a more comprehensive, long-term solution, such as an end to heavy reliance on property taxes to fund schools and reform of the law governing tax increment financing, which would free up more money for schools.  

"It is unacceptable," said Spencer, whose children attend Burley Elementary in Lakeview. Like Burley, many neighborhood schools in wealthy neighborhoods have been asking parents to donate money to offset the detrimental effects of across-the-board class size increases. 

Parents now might wrongly feel like the problem no longer exists, Spencer said.   




Comments
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 11:56 AMBy: Huberman and Rangel.. be careful of the company you keep! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Rangel the poverty pimp extraordinaire should shut up and go hide under a rock. He took over $120,000,000 of YOUR state tax money over two years. This has Daley machine written all over it and it stinks.

Huberman Open the books! Open the fiscal books to an audit.

Rangel, keep your hands out of my pocket!!!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 12:26 PMBy: The Union Blocking State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase The Unions must give in, or else face cuts. It's as simple as that. Here is a great new video spoken by teachers themselves on how teachers unions negatively affect education:

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/trackitfan/2010/06/video-the-truth-about-teachers-unions.html
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 12:36 PMBy: Open the books! Oh..TIF Taxes would help! What are YOU afraid of! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase We don't need teacher bashing because the policies in place were put in there by Daley and his inept unqualified CEO's and with help with the yahoos of the Chicago Civic Committee. It would be dumb to negotiate anything without the fiscal books open to a forensic audit. You don't negotiate without seeing all the cards on the table. Daley and his patronage CEO refuse to open the books. CPS gets a lot of money but the real question is WHERE DOES IT ALL GO?! Why do regular folks need to have to file a freedom of information act on what is supposed to be a public organization that operates at the service of the public. Open the books before any negotiating. BTW, Getting some TIF Tax relief would be great!!! Open books and TIF Tax relief for education!!!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 1:43 PMBy: to union Blocking--nuts State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase No Chicago teachers interviewed here or even inner city ones. As soon as one of them mentioned jack Welch==there is a set up in this video here. Tripe!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 1:45 PMBy: Rangel wants to be the next mayor State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase and hey Daley, he is using YOU to to this!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 1:47 PMBy: 15 Years of CPS Destruction State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Daley has been in charge of the schools for 15 years now. Why are people still blaming teachers for CPS's problems?

"That is why we took the political risk to accept the responsibility for education for our students which I am very pleased to have [sic]. Time again it has been shown this was the right step for our city to make education the highest priority. Yes hold the Mayor accountable for it." -- Richard M. Daley, June 23, 2010 Press Conference announcing results of the 2010 ISAT tests

fire Daley and all political appointees(CTA, OEMS, CPD, MBA's) to CPS first, then we can start discussing cost cutting measures. Teachers do the job not Daley and his political cronies.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 2:13 PMBy: You Don't Run CPS like Dept Streets and Sanitation! Daley Guilty! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Daley and his boys are guilty as charged. Hire flunky patronage manager to be CEO, get University of Chicago's Consortium on Chicago School Research flunkies, Chicago Civic Committee, and the media to go along, then hire more City Hall castoff patronage managers, and you have a recipe for the disaster that is leaving CPS in the worst position and morale that I have seen in twenty years. The buck stops at the top with Daley!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 2:52 PMBy: Guarantee State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I guarantee that if Huberman sat down for a weekend meeting with a dozen teachers we could find that $327 million he seems to think is "missing" without negatively affecting students or teachers.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 3:16 PMBy: Tracy State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Take the concessions and give our kids a chance. The BOE has cut enough.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 3:47 PMBy: $12 million furniture State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase i heard BoE approved 12 mil in new furniture does someone have the board report.

how many teachers would $12 million hire?

they have not cut any CO or CAO expenses yet. Only hired more political cronies and purchased equipment.

tracy
why not document for us what cuts BoE has made?
It would help because we have not found to many.

John Kugler
kuglerjohn@comcast.net
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 3:59 PMBy: Guarantee State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Tracy,

Really? Now how, pray tell, do you know the BOE has cut enough?

Cutting classroom teachers is the LAST thing CPS should consider. There are plenty of other areas to explore. What's so unreasonable about that? Bring the Union to the table, sit down, go over the budget together, see what actually works for students and teachers and what doesn't, and hash it out. I still maintain we could find that $327 million without affecting the very students you wish to save. Why not give us a chance? Why not work with us to solve the problem instead of against us?

Instead of just a 4% salary concession from the Union (along with central office cuts), how about a 2% concession on literally every single contract CPS has, including outstanding loans. CPS wants the Union to reconsider a contract but not the others who receive hundreds and hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. Why are the others exempt? Those who work directly with students are the most important part of our students' education. Period.

Cutting IDS alone would save $30-$60 million. There's 10% or more of the remaining deficit right there. Not a bad place to start, huh? Save another $150 million by putting a halt to closing schools for the next two years. (Closing schools costs over $300 million every year.) And a temporary reallocation of some TIF monies could help stem the tide, too, yet still leave the mayor with hundreds of millions in slush funds.

Tell me, what's so unreasonable about all of this? Teachers have already had their pension system put at greater risk through $1.2 billion in pension payments CPS won't have to make. And you want teachers to sacrifice more than that $1.2 billion? When there are so many other ways to give our kids a chance? Really? No thanks. Greater teacher concessions are not good for teachers or students.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 4:06 PMBy: Tracy State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Then do what teachers do best. Complain like hell and work like turtles. For the work you do, they should take 50%. I'm loving this. And for thr record John, you suck.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 4:14 PMBy: Guarantee State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase The irony is thick, isn't it. I'm not complaining at all, Tracy. You are. I'm offering actual solutions but you and the Board and CPS just don't want to hear about solutions. You want to bash teachers.

And just for your reference, I'm a kickass teacher, I'm National Board Certified, I have a master's degree from a top notch university, and I worked 2800 hours last year for my school. And you won't hear me complain about it one bit. But I will stand up for what is right for our students and my profession.

If you've got anything reasonable to say in response to my previous comment I'd love to hear it. Let's dialogue on the merits of the issues at hand rather than on petty personal feelings and grudges.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 4:27 PMBy: Tracy the Huberman Daley Troll State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Your statement says what you all about, Dirty politics and arrogance beyond the pale!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 6:22 PMBy: Play Nice State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Here is the challenge: do more with less is worldwide, not only Chicago. Yes we need to be more efficient, yes we need excellence for students on all sides. Students succeed when everyone works together (as proven in many CPS schools making progress when admin/CTU focus on what is best for students FIRST). Because of the mistrust being fostered on both sides of the fence, all of our students will lose. Catalyst used to be a positive force for progress, not a dumping ground for the self-serving. Shame on all of you.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 7:05 PMBy: Danny State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase No givebacks! No concessions!

Huberman will be back next year asking for more.

Let the people who caused this problem through their mismanagement solve it.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 7:34 PMBy: No Negotiating Until after a Forensic Audit is done! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase No negotiations till Chicago sees where all the money goes. Open the books! Why do we need to file a freedom of information act? There is gold hidden in them there books, how much requires a forensic audit. Huberman and Daley... open the books!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 7:48 PMBy: Why is Lasalle, southloop and Murray State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase schools calling our parents now to get them to send our students to THEIR schools? As a parent LSC member at a small great neighborhood school, why are these schools calling our parents NOW to get them to send our upper grade students to their schools? This hurts our enrollment and budget. Are they allowed to do this? Our principal is worried. This is really screwy. Can anyone direct us to the right answer?
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 7:57 PMBy: We all known CPS Doesn't Play Nice Nice ( Unlike what some trolls write) State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Your principal should be meeting with the appropriate folks on Clark St, with LSC, students and Parents to demand an explanation. I don't trust Hubie and his City Hall Patronage Manager Rejects to have any integrity, but call them on it.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 8:05 PMBy: Proud Teacher State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase This situation is a sore spot on all sides. The biggest losers are...
These little children being played as pawns! Who is really pulling these puppet strings? Community members, parents, teachers, students, and all Chicagoans need to stand together. Stop fighting over the petty issues. The real issue is that we pay taxes. Our kids should receive a high quality education. Illinois ranks 49th in school funding. Our school system is broken and riddled with inequalities. Let's stay focused on the real problem and not be distracted.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 9:54 PMBy: Huberman and Daley are using the kids to take cover and not come clean! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase There are serious workplace issues on a system wide level that Daley and Huberman want to be kept on the down low! They should, since it revolves around what many teachers know about Huberman, he doesn't know how to run a school district. That ignorance and arrogance es repeatedly seen in the behavior of his patronage underlings who imitate his behavior. The mandates that distract from instruction than supporting quality instruction. A mountain of assessments that also distracts from instruction. I hope the new CTU is taking count of all the "official" distractions that DON'T support learning. This is serious since it is the children who suffer by losing precious instruction time and teachers suffer because they want to instruct but are instructed to follow mandates to administer bs assessments like Dibels, for example. The folks in the Area offices know that Dibels is junk but CPS keeps paying big bucks on this expensive assessment. The list can go on, on how CPS wastes money.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 9:54 PMBy: Proud Teacher State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase This situation is a sore spot on all sides. The biggest losers are...
These little children being played as pawns! Who is really pulling these puppet strings? Community members, parents, teachers, students, and all Chicagoans need to stand together. Stop fighting over the petty issues. The real issue is that we pay taxes. Our kids should receive a high quality education. Illinois ranks 49th in school funding. Our school system is broken and riddled with inequalities. Let's stay focused on the real problem and not be distracted.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 10:07 PMBy: Proud Teacher State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I'm totally agreeing with the previous comment about hiding behind the kids. As an employee, I'm tired of discovering information regarding my job at the same time as everyone else! There is something horribly wrong in CPS. It is time to start looking at the real issues. There are too many ineffective and short term programs taking up too much money! I am ready for reform, but no more bullcrap. Children first! If it doesn't directly benefit the kids and instruction, then it is a distraction. Children first! Education first!
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 10:24 PMBy: are we employees or the enemy? State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase The thing I dont understand is why Huberman NEVER addresses the employees directly in an email or a video? We have FIRST CLASS, it isnt too hard to send an email to everyone?

Why do we find all of our news via the internet, the newspaper, and the tv?

I know we teachers are not exactly always friendly to him, but doesnt he owe his employees some direct communication??


I dont get it??
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 10:43 PMBy: Guarantee State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Are you really asking if we are employees or the enemy?

At the CTA the result of his tenure was
a) creation of a 2-tier pension system
b) reduction in service
c) dismissal of veteran employees
d) reduction in salaries

At the CPS the result of his tenure so far has been
a) creation of a 2-tier pension system
b) reduction in service
c) dismissal of veteran employees
d) reduction in salaries

That doesn't sound like a friend of on-the-ground educators to me. He accomplished all 4 at CTA. He's got 3 done so far at CPS (with more layoffs of veterans in the pipeline) and he's moving forward aggressively. All of Huberman's "let's work together" talk is horsepuckey, a mirage designed to fool reporters and the public about what he's really doing. I don't blame him - it's what I'd do if I was in his position.

Teachers must hold fast and strong in unity. CPS must be forced to do what is best for students. It won't happen willingly.
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 10:50 PMBy: CPS issues State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I think one of the major problems with CPS is that it is simply too big.

I think the teachers and students would be better served if they were divided up similar to the suburbs (X elementary schools feed into Y middle schools which go to Z high schools).

But I suspect the CTU prohibits CPS from being broken up because it would break up the union.... But maybe it'd be better to have 10 different Chicago CPS unions than 1 large one. Teachers on the South side might want/need things that are different from teachers on the West side or North side or near the loop. Not all communities are alike in Chicago, so why try to have 1 district that acts like their policies are suitable for everyone?
Mon Jun 28, 2010 at 10:50 PMBy: Morale Management ZERO State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Ok he's the enemy!


He certainly! Gets a 0 out of 10 for employee morale!

Some teachers at my school were seriously DEPRESSED! And I dont meen a little case of the Mondays! We all feel HOPLESS!!


How do you really recruit NEW FRESH teachers when you kicked the old crew our the door!! If it werent for a bad economy CPS would have to hire teachers on sub certificates to fill the ranks!
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 12:14 AMBy: Schools of education are sending in folks to the meat grinder! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase A lot of good it is going to do to "improve" preservice teachers if they are going into the CPS meat grinder. Huberman will spit you faster than...

If the school of education were honest their pre-service teachers, they should read the full post of Dr. Tyson. .. Welcome to Daley and Huberman's CPS Meat Factory

"But times have changed. The corporate business model which formerly placed great value on taking care of dedicated employees (pensions, retirements, health insurance) has given way to a punishing eye on the bottom line with outsourcing to cheaper labor markets. Customer services has gone the way of advertising slogans and PR campaigns. The one thing that matters above all else isn't empathy or social justice but is margins.

To my great concern, I have seen the impact of this market place mentality driven solely by profits, by numbers, take needless, high stakes risks with our earth and with the people who live on it. This singular and systematic way of thinking, this razor sharp focus on the bottom line, on data, on margins has strangled our hearts, has crushed our emotive resonance, has debilitated our capacity for empathy. This new way of being has, like a cancer, eaten away our humanity."


http://drtimtyson.com/blog/archives/2010/06/an_open_letter_to_americas_edu.html
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 3:58 PMBy: Fairly New Teacher State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I am a fairly new teacher. Some teachers at my school have said they are willing to take a pay freeze ONLY IF there really IS NOT money in the budget to help save teacher's jobs. I appreciate that. Why is it so hard for Huberman to share the budget? That tells me they have something to hide. I have a child to raise, but I also have 30 students who I feed, buy uniforms and personal items for, mentor, and the list goes on and on. Teachers are a very small part of the problem. We do more than non-teachers will ever know. I am an excellent teacher and I do it for the love of my profession, obviously not for the money. A big part of the problem is non-teachers saying or deciding what should happen. Let educators decide what is best for education not everyone else.
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 5:35 PMBy: Greedy & Selfish State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase A common refrain we hear today (from non-educators) is that teachers are being greedy and selfish.

It is not greedy or selfish to expect CPS to be honest and open in its budget analyses. (Hint: it's not.)
It is not greedy or selfish to expect CPS to fulfill their contactual obligations.
(Hint: they decline to do so in other areas on a regular basis as it is.)
It is not greedy or selfish to push CPS to solve its budget crisis while prioritizing classroom teachers and, therefore, students.
(Hint: they won't.)

I'll gladly and happily forego 2% of my raise this year if the following conditions are met:

1) CPS must submit to a forensic budget audit performed by a CTU selected firm.
2) CPS must cut 2% of every single contract it has - without exception. All of them. Cut mine? Cut everyone's.
3) CPS must put a halt to closing public schools in favor of privatized charters at a cost of $300+ million per year.
4) CPS must insist that the mayor reallocate back to education half the CPS tax money that TIF districts collect for the next three years. Not all - just half.
5) CPS must agree to terminate zero tenured teachers without cause for the next three years and must eliminate any hiring contracts or agreements with the revolving door that is Teach for America. (Sorry TFA newbies, but 80% of you won't stay in teaching past your 2 year commitment anyway.)
6) CPS must agree to eliminate IDS - Instructional Delivery System - at a savings of $30-$60 million and formally give teachers the professional autonomy to decide what to teach and how best to teach it.
7) Effective in the year 2011-2012, CPS must agree to a strict class size limit - below 30 - using a formula that actually results in class sizes below 30. (The current student to teach ratio formula is so inaccurate that it is a joke.)
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 7:43 PMBy: to Greedy and Selfish State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I liked and agree with all or most of your statements, except one.
Please, CPS, please, for the love of god, find some way to get rid of bad tenured teachers! I realize that there are just as many bad NEW teachers as OLD ones, but I hate the fact that it is so hard to get rid of the small percentage of bad teachers.
Consistently late or absent more than 3-5 days a year? Out the door!
Can't manage a classroom? Gone!
In the door at 8:30 and out at 2:30 more days than not? Good-Bye!
Read the newspaper when you should be teaching? No way!
Burned out? Take a few years off.
Hate the kids? Please, leave!

And CPS, please, please, please fund your classrooms! Stop expecting teachers to buy basic supplies. My nurse friends don't have to purchase syringes for their patients. My lawyer friends don't have a copy limit. My marketing friends don't have to purchase their own printer ink. Be a little decent and figure out a way to give us what we need as teachers! And legislators and taxpayers, that means you too. Stop allowing teachers to carry the burden of supplying their classrooms.
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 8:15 PMBy: to 7:43 State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase CPS may remove unsatisfactory tenured teachers under the current Agreement between the Board and the Union. It is not a difficult process. It is even easier to remove non-tenured teachers.
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 9:36 PMBy: disagree State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase To the above:
"Consistently late or absent more than 3-5 days a year? Out the door!"
Consistently late, yes I agree.
But absent more than 3-5 days? That is extreme. There are a set number of sick/personal days for a reason.

"Can't manage a classroom? Gone!"
What is your definition of "manage"? I'd like to see you go to Clemente and try to "manage" those students. I know a security guard who was stabbed in the eye. Management looks different based upon your school culture.

"In the door at 8:30 and out at 2:30 more days than not? Good-Bye!"
So if people have kids and they need to get home to their children or pick the kids up from school, then they should be fired? I know a teacher who was basically forced to leave because she never came early or stayed late. Yet her students were well behaved, inquisitive, actively learning and asking questions, and showed notable growth from August to May. I'd rather my child have this teacher than a teacher who is at the building for hours on end but sucks at teaching.

"Read the newspaper when you should be teaching? No way!"
I can agree with that. However, I do read the newspaper when students are taking a quiz or test because it a) sets a good example on how to spend your free time, and b) allows me to sneak attack them to ensure no cheating is happening. Usually by mid year, I have a handful of students who begin to bring the paper, a magazine, or a book to class to read after a quiz or test, and by the end of the year, several more kids are following suit. It makes me very happy.
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 10:29 PMBy: tired of the crap State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I know we have ten contractually allowed days per year for absences. It is annoying when teachers actually TAKE all ten or more each year. No other job gets 10 sick days over a 10 month period of time. I know first year teachers need those days because they get every illness, but after a year or two, we build up immunity. And how many teachers do you know who are actually not sick on "sick days"? I know that half the people in my building would actually state they were at a baseball game, or home watching movies or whatever and were not sick. They just didn't feel like coming to work.
Teachers who leave everyday at 2:30 to pick their children up need to hire a babysitter. If a person works in a 9-5 office job, they don't get to leave at 2:30, and there is NO way a teacher can do all the needed work at home every day. You can't possibly meet with parents, prep your room, meet collaboratively with other teachers all within the 8:30-2:30 time period. The school day needs to be extended to where teachers stay in the building 8-4. That way we can all meet, plan how to help failing students, collaborate. I am so tired of the excuses. My opinion only, but it is my opinion.
Clemente HS isn't exactly what I consider a learning institution. Yes, there are some "schools" with such rough student populations that armed police officers probably need to be standing in the door of every classroom and Clemente is one of them. I am talking about normal schools.
Tue Jun 29, 2010 at 10:41 PMBy: Norm State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Re: "I am talking about normal schools."

Just out of curiosity, which schools do you consider "normal"? And why?
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 AMBy: Sam State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase To 7:43 and 10:29
I don't believe that the two of you are teachers otherwise you would know better.

Teachers can stay past 2:30 as long as there is an administrator in the building. It is always mentioned that teachers leave at 2:30. I ask anyone who complains about dismissal time for teachers, "Would you work for free 2-3 hours?" Teachers normally do that at home and at work. There are a number of teachers that have baby-sitters and leave late. If 2:30 comes around and that is the dismissal time, then the teacher has a right to leave.

A teacher is not allowed to take a "sick day" unless it is under 5 days? That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Let's make a state law: No state employee can take more than 5 sick days! Ridiculous! I have known teachers that have had to have emergency surgery....guess they have to get better fast just to satisfy you!

Lastly, please, please, please, please understand that if a principal follows through on the paperwork and due process.......a bad teacher can be let go! This has nothing to do with the union protecting bad teachers. The union ensures that all teachers have due process and the procedures are followed. It is a myth that bad teachers can't be let go. It is a myth that schools can't get rid of bad teachers.

I wish more people would actually talk to teachers rather than make assumptions. This is why the public is against teachers and education. They read and write threads that are lies and myths. The print media in Chicago is doing the same. How much has been written about Lebron James possibly coming to Chicago and how much is written about the good things that teachers do and funding issues facing the state? Shame on the Trib and Times.
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 1:42 PMBy: Life is crap? What??? State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase To "Tired of the crap",
I am a bit surprised at your attitude towards people with families.

My husband and I made the decision to have children so that WE could raise them, not a babysitter. I don't know what type of system you have set up at your school or in your classroom, but I am efficient, experienced, and have enough resources already available to be able to leave shortly after the bell rings.

Sick days go towards taking care of a sick child (or spouse, sometimes men are worse than children :-) ). Also, there are doctor and dentist appointments that cannot always be scheduled around work. I needed an emergency root canal on year, do you think that was able to wait until a Saturday???

You must be young and unmarried because your attitude towards anyone who has commitments other than work demonstrates your dislike for normal people.

By the way, I took off work on a Thursday to go pick and carve pumpkins, go to a petting zoo, and have a wonderful day with my family. It was a fantastic experience that would have been otherwise chaotic on a regular weekend. My students suffered no ill effects, they took a test that day.

I'm sorry your life is so miserable that the only thing you are clinging to is work, and that you hate everyone who is not doing the same.
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 2:57 PMBy: Dear Troll: Teacher hate taking days off! State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I don't know where these trolls get their ideas, but all the teachers I know HATE taking days off. That is the nature of being a teacher, and it doesn't matter what kind of group of children one has for that year. When I have a year with a very challenging group, that was one more reason to not take off to see a doctor. I have seen teachers feel tortured by even the thought of taking a day off for medical purposes. Dear Trolls, keep your fantasies to yourselves.
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 4:54 PMBy: to greedy and selfish State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase I think some of those conditions are reasonable. I hope that both sides can sit down and make some compromises soon. Transparency runs both ways and many teacher friends I have despise some of the practices of the union. Parents despise the policy of last hired, first fired. CPS needs to give in on a few of these items and so does the CTU. Let's hope for the sake of our kids that these two groups can transcend past patterns of gridlock and animosity and start working towards a better system.
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 8:22 PMBy: not a troll State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Part of the reason why Chicago taxpayers and the media hate teachers is because of some of the reasons listed above. Parents hate it when teachers are never available to meet. I totally understand that teachers can't stay late every night, but gone at the bell every single day?
I am a teacher and I know teachers who won't answer emails, don't know how to use email, don't differentiate, don't provide even monthly newsletters, you get the picture.
And given that we get 10 sick days and 3 personal days, that is nearly triple the amount of paid time off (not including all the holidays and summers) that any state employee gets. Yes, we all have emergencies like root canals and sick children. But we all know teachers who abuse the system.
I had teachers in my building who didn't even know what a "word wall" was or how to use it. It was totally embarrassing. We are professionals and it isn't unreasonable as part of our self-driven professional development to be reading several teaching books each year along with professional journals. It has gotten for me where I am embarrassed to say I am a CPS teacher. People hate us. And I don't want to be lumped in with all the others who want a paycheck without ever even thinking about producing results.
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 9:20 PMBy: So the solution....? State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase So the solution to lazy teachers is to tell everyone else they CAN'T take off days, leave when needed, etc??? What a slap in the face. It is equivalent to punishing the entire class because one kid is obnoxious and disruptive.
Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 10:12 PMBy: Not a Troll... you gave yourself away... stop the hissy fit State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase Get a life and read with your kid..Do something constructive than come here and have a hissy fit...
Thu Jul 1, 2010 at 8:11 PMBy: Pamela Ross State funding cuts CPS deficit, elementary class sizes will not increase It has become a fad; that when you hear the word Teacher.People automatically throw a negative attack. Because teachers supposely get everything. More money than anyone else. They can't teach. The children are not learning. It is so obvious that the people who are complaining haven't walked in teachers shoes. It would be a big help if all children came to school perfect. But they don't. You have a classroom each day of that many students with their own problems and personalities. You never know from day to day; what to expect. Then you try to teach. Try to get the entire class ready to pass the end product tests. One thing that is for sure. It is a day of stress if you have disruptive children. You know there are disruptive children; just as there are disruptive adults. Then there is a room full. A big headache. Coaches are helpful; but some are not fair. Those coaches that were cut were not all master teachers. They belonged to the CPS Staff. Easy jobs; walking around all day some of them causing conflict among teachers. No they are not needed during a budget crisis of the teachers who work in the trenches. Also; it is mighty strange how because of a twinkling of an eye , teachers at CPS are not allowed to work their 10 months while trying to teach in vacancies. Senority teachers on ANY job should be chosen first. This is nothing but trying to throw older teachers off the train. Mark my word. This is why there is so much crime in the world today. The young folks are running things. No solid ground. Youth is just that. It takes an old pro with these children of today. Anothing thing. If Principals are not fair or want their friends in; they are going to be giving teachers bad ratings; just to get rid of them. Give teachers credit for teaching their children. They teach so the children can pass the test. glad class sizes are restored. Thank you Mr. Huberman for that . Because 35 in a classroom was not going to work.
Thu Jul 8, 2010 at 3:09 AMBy: Well, that's not good State funding cuts deficit, class sizes won't increase Is it me or do the students of CPS and the teachers of CPS seem to be being treated with very little respect by the groups supposedly designed to serve them?

to paraphrase: try to manage classroom at Clemente.
-doesn't sound like that's a teacher with much faith in what the students can do there.

and the administration seems to be trying to make CPS "teacher proof" and "principal proof" by saying that the less autonomy they give, the better these schools will run.

Perhaps it's time to open the door to more privatized charters and new parental choice legislation. Let the schools and teachers that work best get rewarded and those that don't get replaced.

Oooooorrrr, we can sit here and listen to battles like this between CPS and CTU and just keep telling ourselves not to worry, because dialog like this is SURE to improve our schools. Sorry, I don't see that happening when no one trusts the people they're meant to lead.
Thu Jul 8, 2010 at 9:10 AMBy: Sorry Privitization Troll, the ideal, quality public schools is worth standing up for!!! State funding cuts deficit, class sizes won't increase It is time to stand up for quality public education is now. No time for Duncan, Huberman, Daley, monied poverty pimps...
Thu Jul 8, 2010 at 7:43 PMBy: Rangel et al.... State funding cuts deficit, class sizes won't increase Their salaries aren't posted on the CPS website either. But in 2008 Rangel made $242,979, according to financial statements UNO filed with the IRS. Philip Mullins, UNO's CEO, made $158,480; Miguel d'Escoto made $157,915. Four other employees made more than $100,000. (I called and e-mailed Rangel for comment, but he did not respond.) Huberman makes only $230,000, and he oversees many more than just nine schools. I never thought I'd make the argument that Huberman's underpaid, but there you have it.
Fri Jul 9, 2010 at 6:31 AMBy: Hubmerman is not fit to run Chicago Public Schools!!! State funding cuts deficit, class sizes won't increase The man is not fit to run any school district. He only purpose is to cut, cut , and cut. The point is that he has NO understanding of how to lead a school district. He can't know because the skills and wisdom that are needed to be an effective leader of building strong professional organizations in schools are only learned by being a part of the Besides running the Ren 2010 playbook, he is highly reactionary in his decision making because he just simply does not know how to run a school district. It is tragic and sad. I don't know how he can ethically live with himself. The situation is obcene!

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