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Thursday, April 24, 2008
"Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago  Education blogger eduwonkette takes a look at violence in Chicago  and comes up with some interesting conclusions (A Closer Look at Violence in Chicago) -- including that violence is "astoundingly high."

"Education bloggers (present company included) spill a lot of ink over the smallest details of accountability plans, but it's important to remember that this is the context in which our schools are working. Community problems inevitably seep into schools, and the interventions that we spend the most time talking about do little to help kids manage the emotional toll of these events."


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Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 5:11 PMBy: eduwonkette's analysis and Daley's created crisis "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago Some very interesting data. However, one has to wonder if the numbers of students staying home because of fear of violence has jumped in Chicago over the last three months. Students parents do watch the news and with CPS making an issue to the media about every killing of a CPS student this has no doubt made families in some cases keep kids home when a student is killed attending their school.

The situation now is very different than in years past when the school a murdered teenager was attending was never a major part of the murder story on the news. Now, the school of the student is the lead in these stories. Really both the Mayor's PR office and CPS PR office do deserve some credit on their skill in getting this change done.

However, the CPD is not happy with the change. Because it is creating the appearance that Chicago is a city under attack by gang warfare. Rumor at City Hall is that Brian Murphy Daley's first deputy chief of staff got into a screamer with Daley on Friday over this very issue and he quit on Monday. Murphy was a former CPD lieutentant and was the Mayor's liason to the CPD. The Mayor apparently did not want to hear the message coming from the CPD that his media campaign over guns was creating a crisis of confidence over citizens safety in many communities when the current level of gang killings is about normal for the average Chicago spring.
Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 7:19 PMBy: 1.04 "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago Violence



Welcome to my world. The names and pictures are real dead people to me not a news story. Been putting up with this shit for over 38 years now and counting.
The sad fact is that the powers to be have never had a clue. Check back Monday
for this weekends casualty list.
Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:25 PMBy: Kugler - Sad Fact "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago It is all a game to the people running things downtown.

What is gonna happen when gas is $6/gal and only one bag a rice per month ration?

It is getting worse day by day.

Dose anyone have any statistics from just before the depression to see if there are any correlations?

Or maybe it is the shook doctrine to impose strict controls on the public at large?

Anyway it goes there is nothing being done to address the issue by those in power.
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:06 AMBy: Staying home from school "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago Does this data include the 49% who drop out of school? Is he only talking about active students who stay home a few days because of violence?
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 1:34 AMBy: George N. Schmidt "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago The Eduwonkette data are fundamentally deceptive. Aggregation misleads, rather then enlightens, this story. As a result, the bland "analysis" presented by Eduwonkette, because of the data upon which it's based, is bullshit.

Here's how:

The problems with extreme criminal violence (this part needs better definition) in Chicago's public high schools is not a generalized problem, but one virtually exclusive to the general high schools. If we now count the charter high schools as part of the aggregate public high school data set, about 30 percent of the high schools have virtually no extreme criminal violence, while the remaining 70 percent of the high schools (the general high schools) have all of it.

The murder of Whitney Young's Chris Pineda last school year (2006-2007), for example, was an aberration. It's likely that the college prep academic magnet public high schools will go for years without another tragedy like that. At the same time, not a year goes by without these kinds of violence extracting a regular toll inside the general high schools.

Of course, this process has been exacerbated by Arne Duncan since he initiated "Renaissance 2010" with Mayor Daley and the Civic Committee six years ago.

By the end of June 2008, six general high schools will have been destroyed by the Daley administration. They are: Austin, Calumet, Collins, Englewood, Harper, and Orr (counted as one unit, rather than those three "small schools" thingies).

The destruction of those high schools is half the data reality. The other half is the dispersal of the students who would have attended those high schools into the other general high schools. Since 2004, when CPS froze 9th grade enrollment at Austin and Calumet, more than 6,000 students have been dispersed from their home community general high schools into the city's other general high schools.

But these were not a random statistical sample of 9th graders and beyond. They were concentrated among the students who would have attended the Austins, Calumets, and Englewoods -- the most "at risk" and in many cases those most likely to be experienced in Chicago's street gang realities.

These students were not sent to Whitney Young, Payton, Northside, or any of the other college prep magnet high schools. They all went to places like Crane, Clemente, Wells, Julian -- etc. -- the other general high schools.

The result has been an ongoing destabilization campaign, centrally organized by the Duncan administration, against the city's remaining general public high schools. The school is not being measured on the basis of a general set of students, but on the basis of a very select sub-set, which Chicago has created in its poorest communities. This subset includes an abnormally high percentage of students who have street gang ties (often blood ties) and experiences, usually beginning at a very young age.

Of course, the most dramatic example of how this subset fares in the real world comes from the data about one Chicago "High School" -- the so-called "Youth Connections" charter high school (which is really an archipelago of what were once these little -- or even very little -- alternative high schools).

The one Chicago "high school" with the most dead kids both last year (when the Tribune introduced this unusual method of keeping score) isn't even in the phone book. If a researcher goes to the official "address" of Youth Connections, one is standing on the corner of 35th and State St. with no "school" in sight except the Illinois Institute of Technology.

Researchers and my colleagues in the media can go to Crane, Clemente, Julian, or Simeon high schools the next time Arne Duncan's combination of gangs (ignoring the massive drug gangs because Mayor Daley's regimes -- as State's Attorney and as Mayor -- enabled their explosive growth) and teacher bashing (closing and privatizing the general high schools) creates another dead student at one of those places.

But since the largest number of dead "students" are located at a place that doesn't exist in one place, the story, like the data, become more fiction than fact -- and definitely not anything that can be relied on except for entities (Eduwonkette perhaps; Education Week for sure) that want to use "data" to obfuscate, rather than illuminate, the actual real world educational, social and economic problems that are causing these massive murderings (and, more widely, maimings).
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 8:09 AMBy: 1.04 "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago The D word

Kugler please do not scare me by using the D word. I remember Christmas
1979 when we, as in all CPS employees, didn’t get paid for six weeks. What happened last time there was a real depression CPS teachers were paid in script! not money.
Some places let you spend the script most places did not.
I do not know what happened to the retired teachers pension payments during
those dark days.
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 8:24 AMBy: George N. Schmidt "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago "...I remember Christmas 1979 when we, as in all CPS employees, didn’t get paid for six weeks..." (1:04, earlier this morning).

But the 1979 Christmas payroll stall (which wasn't finally resolved until we struck in January and February 1980, if you recall) was not the result of a Depression, but of another kind of ruling class perfidy. The major banks wanted higher interest on CPS bonds and what were then called "tax anticipation warrents", so they went on a bankers' strike, refusing to lend money to CPS until the Illinois Usury Cap was lifted. In the good old days, it was considered "Usury" the charge more than ten percent interest; only Mafia loan sharks on Grand Ave. or out on Taylor St. were getting higher interest back then. They "discovered" that Arthur Andersen (then the accounting firm and auditor for CPS) had been putting footnotes in certain accounts and like the famous scene from Casablanca ("there is gambling taking place in this establishment...") declared CPS "bankrupt" when in fact the problem would have been solved by the time of the March 1980 tax collections and with more aggressive collections of the Corporate Personal Property Tax.

But that's not the official history, of course. The official history (always read the Tribune for that) is that the public schools had "overspent" because of the greedy unions. Not that the corporations had refused to pay the corporate personal property tax, or that the banks had colluded to go on strike until they could loan money to CPS at higher interests.

That wasn't a Depression. The 1930s were.

But the 1979 - 1982 experience was certainly instructive. Sitting in the Manley High School library waiting for the pre-Christmas check that last day of school, we all dared to hope. When Blaine DeNye came in to announce that the checks wouldn't be coming and we should go home ("and Merry Christmas...") we knew things were going to get worse. And they did. By September 1981 (the worst year) the banks had forced CPS to cut more than 8,000 jobs (mine, one of them at the time) as part of the "restructuring" that included the School Finance Authority (SFA).

They always wanted complete control, not only over the schools, but over the narrative version of the history. And today, of course, Martin Koldyke is no longer SFA chief -- he's the head of the "Turnaround" training center at AUSL at 3400 N. Austin, still dictating school policy in Chicago for the millionaires and billionaires who have always wanted to replace democracy (and a democratic telling of history) with their own special (and very lucrative and teacher bashing) version of events -- past, present and future...
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 9:11 AMBy: A Hopeful Parent "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago This was posted earlier by Concerned Parent under a different heading. Given the contents of the posting, and after reading your article in Education Weekly ("Astoundingly High Violence in Chicago"), I thought this particular opinion would fit in the current discussion.
Someone is not telling the truth. It is also quite amazing how official figures issued by the Board for public consumption is so far from reality. Just how do they go about determining the TRUE number of students who carry concealed weapons to school, stay out of school because of potential violence against them, and other criteria they use in gathering these figures. Does anyone really believe that those numbers are diminishing?
Again - we are being lied to by the Board of Education and the Daley Administration.

We had occasion to see a clip of a CLTV broadcast that aired recently. On the program two Chicago high school students, one from Julian and the other from Simeon, were interviewed along with Chicago School Board President Rufus Williams. The interviewer asked a series of questions about how safe the two students felt while in school.
Both students indicated that they did not feel safe in school, that they feared serious injury or worse, and felt that they were more focused on the surrounding confusion than their studies.

There were several topics involved, most surrounding the issue of safety. While the program was somewhat enlightening and an opportunity for some students to express their fear and concerns about attending a Chicago public school everyday, we were very upset about the snide, pompus and disingenuous remarks of Mr. Williams.

He made several statements, all of which towed the party line of the Board of Education, that violent school incidents are down (statistically from pervious years) and that most incidents occur OUTSIDE the school. Mr. Williams stated that the Board insures the safety of students within the walls and on the property of all the schools and suggested that students need not fear going to school. He repeated this outrageous statement several times, implying that others were making more about the school safety issue than was necessary.

Give us a break! Where has he been for the past several years? Does he live in a cave and has no acess to real information about the state of the schools he is charged to administer? Is he merely just a political hack who is intent on keeping his job by continuing to skew and manipulate statistics to mask the real situation in these schools?

One of several things could be the reason for such an obvious misrepresentation of the truth: (1) He really believes his bull**** based on his interpretation of the statistics regarding "reported" violent incidents in the schools, (2) He was ordered by the powers-that-be, including the Mayor and Arnie Duncan, to maintain this falsehood, deny the obvious, and try to contain a public relations nightmare, or (3) He is just an outright liar who refuses to be honest with the public, students, teachers and parents by facing the issue and taking aggressive steps to deal with these problems.

He may not be aware of the potential consequences or the gradual toll on the lives of our children, their general well-being, or their emotional health in the future. But eventually, if this current climate continues without responsible parties taking serious measures to insure positive change, he may find himself a named defendent in a court action. A class action suit brought by parents, teachers and students against the Board, the City, and to some degree, the State, for failing to take the necessary steps to insure their safety in the public schools, is a likely possibility.

Although litigation of this type is usually a long and hard slog against entrenched and well funded political interests, it is our children that are paying the price. We need to force the issue and make the politicians, their appointees, and all those responsible for insuring basic safety in our tax-payer supported institutions, provide at least a modicum of security for our most important asset - our children.

Mr. Williams, Arnie Duncan and the Mayor need to take a look at Brooks, for example, and start making changes there - FIRST!

Let's see just how candid Mr. Williams is after taking an oath in court.
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 9:47 AMBy: Kugler - Look at the Facts "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago 1. Gas prices are going sky high and not going to stop.

2. Foreclosures are getting worse. There are houses in my area Mc Kinley park that have not sold for 2 years and abandoned buildings now vacant at least one year. I have never seen this before in this neighborhood.

3. Taxes keep rising because there is no production/manufacturing to support the financial needs of the public infrastructure.(also a public control measure)

4. We are in a war IRAQ. (70's we were still paying for Vietnam)

5. Food rationing.(Costco and Sam's Club)

6. Fed propping up banking and credit systems.(Bear Sterns)

7. Curfews

8. Violence is being used to start to control the public.

This is the final piece of the puzzle to predict what is coming in the near future. As we all have heard today that Mayor Daily is putting SWAT teams on the streets. Is this to control the bangers? No it is to send a message the government is in charge no matter how bad things get.

The city and others too probably have been preparing to take control of the streets to prevent rioting and looting as is happening in other parts of the world. I know already a few people that have lost everything(Job, house, family) this person has nothing left and nothing to loose.

Just be careful now that you do not fall on the wrong side of the "law."

Start getting ready for the next step. Martial Law. It wont be called that but it is happening. What do you call SWAT teams on city streets?

You say: No way you are scaring us Kugler.

Just read what George has been writing now for years. Yes read it for content and get past your subject views of the opposition.

It is not scaring it is the truth. We have never recovered from 911. Just prolonging/contributing to the inevitable cycle of economics.

Just a note hear Substance is in a dire financial situation. It is one of the only independent papers left in the city of Chicago.

Once that paper goes out of business there will be no one left to report what is happening to our schools in Chicago.
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If you think I am wrong then ok, but those of you old enough can see all the facts and see what is happening. those of you too young that is what papers and history is about to help prepare for the future to prevent misery for the masses.

again look around you today and this weekend and what do you see?

Is it prosperity or fakeness?

Prosperity is when EVERYONE is happy and comfortable.
Not the few who have manipulated the system to gain wealth.

We owe it to our children to keep them safe and free of oppression whether it be form the criminals or the government. Usually the two are the same.

Sorry I do not want to get you down but we need to wake up before we loose all our freedoms and rights.

If anything I know at the end of the day I am ready for anything coming down the pipe.

I also know that I am at piece with my god and have no regrets for what I do or say.

Right effort
The four phases of Right Effort:(in simple English)

(1) make effort to prevent the unwholesome that has not yet come.

(2) make effort to destroy the unwholesome that has come.

(3) make effort to produce the wholesome that has not yet come.

(4) make effort to cultivate the wholesome that has come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:05 AMBy: TeacherPeon Redo Impact Attendance Who is being asked to redo IMPact attendance since September?
Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:21 AMBy: Another HPA Teacher "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago At Hyde Park, we were asked to go back to Sept. 11th to submit attendance if it had not been done.
Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 4:14 AMBy: George N. Schmidt "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago IMPACT.

Now there's "Accountability."

Every month, the Chicago Board of Education votes to fire teachers and principals, and to suspend large numbers of others, under this "business model" of so-called "accountability." Wednesday, the Board approved suspending the principal of Julian High School, who's been working overtime to clean up the mess Arne Duncan created with his appointed principal last year.

Nothing happened to the appointed Duncan principal, who will pop up somewhere else to screw up another general high school.

Two years ago, Arne Duncan fired Marty McGreal as a principal because McGreal tried to stop Duncan from continuing to sabotage Gage Park High School (while favoring Boys Town , er, "Urban Prep" and the other selective, exclusive, and often privatized boutique schools Arne and the Civic Committee are promoting).

Those are examples of "accountability" for principals and teachers in Chicago. Or should it simply be called "hypocrisy."

But IMPACT -- the brainchild of Arne Duncan and the creation of the Board of Education and Duncan's buddy Bob Runcie -- foists accountability not on those who have wasted about a quarter of a billion dollars (Duncan, Runcie, and the Board) but on the rest of us.

Great system isn't it?
Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 7:33 AMBy: eddie "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago Sources tell me that Arne down in Sprinfield week of 4-14 and Senators think he's doing a great job. Now ,more UC Sociologists are now milking more foundation money to solve urban violence problems.

Principals are using overtime and also hiring back retirees to build patronage loyalists in the schools. I'll bet not a one of these secondary school managers understands the true mission of a high
school and certainly Arne, Richy and the Civic C'tee certainly do not.

Gangs are all over the high schools and ,trust me, even in the Catholic schools. I'm in them from time to time and heads in the sand and elsewhere.

Watch commander from 4th. district has been at Washington lately and I hope Weiss orders Watch Commanders and above to get involved in all the high schools.
Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 10:37 AMBy: A Concerned Parent "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago I doubt that the presence of the 4th District Watch Commander or the District Commander will make a difference. They barely have the resources to address regular street crime and gangs in the neighborhoods, let alone the manpower to confront organized youth gangs in the schools. With the firepower these gangs have and the absence of guilt, respect for life, and a reckless disregard for safety of themselves or the innocent, we will continue to see a rise in gang shootings, beatings, dope dealing and murder. Of course, the Board of Education will throw the "blame" back on the parents.

Well, yeah, we get it. The parents bear the primary and ultimately to final responsiblity for the actions of thier children. Mnay of those parents child raising priorities are virtually non-existant. However, the job of providing BASIC security INSIDE the school and on school property is the responsibility of the Board.
Passing the buck is not the way to go.
Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 2:17 PMBy: 1.04 "Astoundingly High" Violence In Chicago Take a chill pill.

You are forgetting one important thing in little more than 5 months
We will have a new president. .
I am a rock ribbed Republican who is beginning to feel our current
President is a real jerk! When somebody like me is this pissed off you can bet that change is just around the corner.
What we need is leadership, something lacking in almost all present levels of government. Leadership that has intelligence, vision, and guts.
Remember from theory to Hiroshima took about three years. Our fuel problems
Are not that desperate, and is a solvable problem we need a leader to force all parties to get us rolling again on renewable fuel like the Nebraska tractors or even the Model A Ford. If any segment of those involved balk or drag their feet a leader will chuck the entire Board of Directors in Jail. Problem solved.
Food is in its present state because of the fuel problem, nobody is going to starve
Finally Violence, and we know it, seems to be terrible, but it has been worst.
you don’t remember when some schools had a teacher of the month club. That was a trip.
The days are numbered for the phony. When society finally gets real it won’t be so bad.

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