City Limits From a teacher who reads this blog and is struggling with the city's residency rule: "I have been a CPS teacher since 2001 and I love my job. I want to continue being a city teacher forever. However, I have a 1 year old and my wife is pregnant again. The city is so expensive and I want to live in a safe neighborhood that I can afford (which is non-existent on my salary). I would love to be able to live outside the city and I am not sure why we are mandated to live in the city. Are they afraid that there will be a mass exodus of teachers to the suburbs and a loss of tax base? I can assure you that most teachers are in a similar financial position to myself --- if I were to move to the suburbs, I would have to sell my home. And the person who moved in, would make the same amount as me and therefore would be paying the same taxes-- so the city would lose nothing. Furthermore, I do not think a large number of teachers would want to move outside the city and have a long commute. This is my main issue as a CPS teacher (above salary, working conditions, or benefits) and I know I am not alone. I am trying to find out more information about House Bill 4375. If we are the third largest teachers union, where is all of our power. How can a bill nearly unanimously pass the house, and then get snatched up in Senate committees and killed.?"
Our union seems to be a joke! They were all gangbusters on getting this law repelled before the elections and now it seems to have been swept under the carpet. We are not prisoners, we should have a choice as to where we want to live! Also, there are many qualified teachers and administrators who would love to work in a CPS school but they don't because they do not live in the city and not find it worth moving just to comply with this silly rule.
And it is not going to change . . . no matter how hard we try!
Keep the city limits requirements. All urban school districts should have it. If you're going to be teaching in an urban environment, then you as a teacher should be somewhat aware of the pressures and general urban everyday life. what better way to experience them first hadn than by living them.
The only way contract negotiations impacts this is that if the law stands, it is an excellent argument for higher salaries and/or housing benefits.
The system would be a disaster, but state contractors would love it.
I agree, but the contractors we have now are just as bad. Maybe we could live where we choose.
House Bill 4375, the Chicago Teachers Residency Bill sponsored by State Rep. Marlow Colvin (D-Chicago), passed the House Executive Committee on March 5. The bill has been placed on the calendar for future consideration by the full House of Representatives. Please contact your state representative today and urge a “Yes” vote on HB 4375. Chicago teachers deserve to be treated like every other teacher in the state of Illinois.
Now is the time for us to take action. If every employee of CPS called, wrote, emailed, faxed their House Rep. that would be 60,000 demands for a YES vote. These Reps are elected officials and they know that they work for us. So make them work for us.
Go to the CTU website (ctu.net) there is a link that you can click on and automatically produce a letter for you to send.
Go to ilga.gov and you can look up the bill and follow the action, look up you rep. etc.
We have the power; we just have to use it.
Parent, I agree with you. I'm a teacher in Chicago and live in Chicago. People who grow up in and remain in the suburbs can't possibly fully understand our students.
I'm a parent and my income is my family's only income. I own my home in a reasonable neighborhood and we're not struggling. I was assisted by several of the CPS housing partners to be able to buy my place. Now I make too much money to qualify for half of the grants I received a few years ago. Perhaps we could expand those programs rather than abandoning the residency requirements.
Beyond that, I know that I stay at school much later in the day because I can drive home in 20 minutes. If I lived in Waukegan and had to drive an hour to school, I'd be the last one in and the first to leave each day - trying to avoid rush hours. I wouldn't be hanging around for family nights or organizing weekend trips with my students. If CPS had a teacher shortage then I might say we could loosen the requirement (and isn't there a waiver of the residency requirement already for hard to staff positions?). As it stands now, I'm going to send an email to my representative to vote against removing the requirement.
I have seen excellent teachers who did not grow up in the city and I have seen poor teachers who did grow up in the city.
Of course, being married to a city worker I have always said please make me a city worker and give me their benefits-tuition reimbursement, paid maternity leave, 20 years and age 50 for retirement and a clothing allowance. No city worker has a four year degree requirement.
Our children need the best teachers and administrators not those who have been let go from the suburbs. Milwaukee is the only city other than Chicago that has a residency requirement. We do not need a transient work force. Right now, we are a training ground
especially for special education teachers. Remember the waiver is only for three years and it can be rescinded at any time. That is not a way to build a permanent work force.
I find the people that are in favor of the residency requirement are those who quite simply do not want competition in the workforce.
This isn't Orwell's 1984........... or is it?
Rescind Rescindency,
From this quote, it sounds like you're for residency. Two types of teachers would generally come from the burbs: Those who make crap salaries with long days in the burbs and want to make more money in the city; and those you mention who have been let go and black balled from the burbs. People don't avoid the city because of cost ... That's the lie being perpetuated. people avoid living in the city because it's the big bad city. And those people shouldn't be teaching our kids anyway.
I turned down a cushy job offer for a gifted position in Naperville to teach in the hood. Yes, I would have been appreciated and would have made a difference there, but I'm not needed there. I am needed here.
CPS has fired, what, 2,500 teachers in the last 3 years? There's no shortage of qualified teachers.
For now it is stiil more money and exciting more than not. I even think when the hard times come that the suburbs are gonna get hit bad wit all those over priced cardboard shacks they built in the last 20 years. The tax base will shrink to zero in some burbs.
So far I think it is safer in the city as long as you do not get clicked off.
Plus more restaurants and places to go. I figure if I move to the burbs I will be coming back to the city to do things with the family while the kids are still small,
Chicago is an exciting place. But when you get tired of pub crawling
What is left? The attempt of old robber barons to buy there way into
heaven by endowing something or other.
As far as overpriced suburban houses are concerned check out some of the
absurd prices being asked for the new houses next to bubbly creek which
have to be bolted to the shack next door or they might fall down. Yep those
19 year old building inspectors would be a joke if it weren’t for the human
tragedy such clout can cause.
So if you are a doctor and have never experienced a heart attack
then you should not treat it?
What logic class did you take?
I think a person who grew up in Summit might understand socio-economics better than someone who grew up in Hyde Park.
Some of the least compassionate teachers I have seen are those who stepped up from poverty and now think they are so much better than the children they teach. It's the old "I have mine now you get yours!"
Our teachers from the neighborhood are late on a
daily basis and the first ones out the door. Your value system is not defined by geography.
It takes my friend who lives in the city an hour to travel from Oak Park Avenue to Stoney Island Avenue and my other friend gets to his CPS school from South Holland in fifteen minutes.
Didn't those people go there during the summer before they paid for those places??
That Smell
So, don't forget to let you legislator know that you are their constituent, helped voted them into office and you want them to vote Yes to HB 4375. Give Chicago Public School Employees a choice.
I'm having a real hard time understanding this discussion. Is it based on the fact that teachers who have families will find "better" schools if we all move to the suburbs? I'm sitting writing this in a house I bought more than ten years ago on a quiet block in Chicago. We've even had more and more diversity in this part of town than ever before in history (and fended off some last vestiges of local racism when an African American congregation bought the old Lutheran church on the corner here).
Anyone who has been following the classified knows that at this point in history, the amount of real estate becoming available in Chicago neighborhoods is at a high. Apartment rental costs are also coming down. And in some communities (where I know teachers who have lived there for 30 years or more), you can buy a lot of bungalow for less than $200,000.
Somehow as I read this, I hear the echo of people who look around Chicago and don't see. Anyway, let me know after you've spent a few Spring Sundays looking for places in ZIP codes 60641 or 60630 and then come back here to complain about having to live in the city.
I don't like the residency rule, by the way. But it doesn't follow that there is no place a teacher can afford to live in Chicago. That's simply not true, from the East Side out between Bowen and Washington high schools all the way up here beyond Schurz and towards Taft. What "Chicago" are you talking about? There was no rule that said teachers had the right to live within a half mile of Lake Michigan, even though many of us could afford to 40 years ago -- before urban renewal and developers pushed us out right after the poorer people were pushed back.
And I agree with him. I, too, do not necessarily support residency rule entirely, but also know you CAN buy in the city--I just did this past summer, on one income. A 2BR condo in West Rogers Park-ish, 1300 square feet, less than $170k (though dang, I wish I would have seen a bungalow for less than $200k!), and I make LESS than I would have had I stayed in teaching. I LOVE my neighborhood, my neighbors, and have no problem walking my dog at midnight.
I also think it benefits the schools to have its teachers living--and voting--in the city. I think its priceless to run into your students out and about with your own family. I liked knowing about something going on over the weekend and telling my students about it. And I REALLY think having your OWN kids attend CPS schools helps keep the system in check.
I DO think CPS should have a lot more in place to help teachers buy, and I'd be the first to support teachers getting better benefits all around--tuition breaks, flexible spending accounts for child care, etc.
Oddly, many of the teachers I know who work in the suburbs LIVE in the city--go figure!
Though, ultimately, I'm all about choice. I'd be curious to know if there would a mass exodus if the residency policy got changed (though I know plenty of peeps who use a Chicago address but in fact live in the 'burbs already).
Most of us teach in neighborhoods we would not be safe living in especially single women.
It is easier for a teacher to have his/her children in the same school but it can be a disaster for the children.
There are two different conversations going on for this thread. But again, it comes down to choice. CPS employees should have the choice. If some do, than all should. And then, those who don't want to stay in the city can go. And those of us who love it....we just love it.
Remember, contact your legislator and tell him/her you want the opportunity to make a choice.
Please vote YES for HB 4375 so that Chicago schools can hire the MOST QUALIFIED educators... regardless of where they live!
email the President of the Union why she has not told him to file a suit.
marilynstewart@ctulocal1.com





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