Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
The Mayor is agitating for some leeway when it comes to testing ELL kids in the wake of having been told that the Spanish-language test wasn't NCLB eligible.
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Chicago Mayor Richard Daley this afternoon visited an elementary school full of Spanish-speaking children to rally against giving the Illinois assessment test to English language learners.
What do you think? Should kids be tested in their native language? Who should pay?
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
Again, this is all about the Spanish speaking students. What about all of the students that come from Eastern European countries that are ELL??? And is the test written so that inner-city African-American children can relate to it and be successful?
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
English language learner is a highly elastic concept. You can stretch it to include a huge percentage of the student population. This would mean that a huge percentage would be excluded from assessment. Not a good thing.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
This is still America. Therefore, testing should be conducted in English. When I lived in France I had to speak French; when I visited Mexico I had to function in Spanish. The USA is the only country that even considers coddling persons who's native language is something other than English. When in America-speak English.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
My first response would be YES, because
the purpose of testing for this program is
because they were to become English Language
Learners (ELL) that is why the test is administered
in English.
Now from a stand point of accountability for
TITLE III LANGUAGE INSTRUCTION FOR LIMITED
ENGLISH PROFICIENT AND IMMIGRANT STUDENTS
of the NCLB ACT.
In order to effectively demonstrate that these test
would show progress or the lack thereof, there is to
be documentation / an evaluation of the skills
of the students. Are they prepared to take these
tests in English and if not what is the contingency
plan to reflect what they have learned versus what
they still need help in without punishing them.
It is then that I would support that the test could be
designed in both languages.
the purpose of testing for this program is
because they were to become English Language
Learners (ELL) that is why the test is administered
in English.
Now from a stand point of accountability for
TITLE III LANGUAGE INSTRUCTION FOR LIMITED
ENGLISH PROFICIENT AND IMMIGRANT STUDENTS
of the NCLB ACT.
In order to effectively demonstrate that these test
would show progress or the lack thereof, there is to
be documentation / an evaluation of the skills
of the students. Are they prepared to take these
tests in English and if not what is the contingency
plan to reflect what they have learned versus what
they still need help in without punishing them.
It is then that I would support that the test could be
designed in both languages.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
Forgot to mention Title III
NCLB GRANT
TAX DOLLARS
pay for the testing
and the translation materials
as needed.
What would be the formula
for generating these
dollars ?
The answer is the Census data
and the local educational agency's
funding allocation from
the State for the academic
needs of the
reflected number of
limited English proficient
children.
NCLB GRANT
TAX DOLLARS
pay for the testing
and the translation materials
as needed.
What would be the formula
for generating these
dollars ?
The answer is the Census data
and the local educational agency's
funding allocation from
the State for the academic
needs of the
reflected number of
limited English proficient
children.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
Hey American, I'm an American too. And I agree that English should be learned by anyone planning to lead a successful and functional life in this country, but in this case we're not talking about teaching classes in Spanish or even bilingual education. We're talking about assessing students who are still learning English in their native language.
Testing students in their native language is important for a number of factors, mostly because it is the only way to give you a true sense of where that student is in comparison to his/her peers. When you test an ELL student in English you find out what you already know, they are not fluent in English, but you don't find out what their comprehension skills are, or their mathematical problem solving skills or their grasp of basic science concepts.
Is it really fair to test a student who has been in this country for a year in English? No, and it would be a waste of time to make that student take the test.
Testing students in their native language is important for a number of factors, mostly because it is the only way to give you a true sense of where that student is in comparison to his/her peers. When you test an ELL student in English you find out what you already know, they are not fluent in English, but you don't find out what their comprehension skills are, or their mathematical problem solving skills or their grasp of basic science concepts.
Is it really fair to test a student who has been in this country for a year in English? No, and it would be a waste of time to make that student take the test.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
I believe that ELL students should be allowed to be tested in their native language when they are still early in their transitional biligual program (e.g. years 1-3). It is unreasonable to think that students who have less than one year of English can take a grade level examination in English. The sad thing will be that this will have a devistating effect on said student's self esteem, and they may believe that they are not as smart as their peers. Chances are if our monolingual students were given 6 months of a foreign language and then asked to take a test in all subject areas at their grade level, they would not produce stellar results.
Get ready to see schools reacting with horror as their collective test scores plummet. I don't see how this will have a positive result for anyone.
I also wonder if parents do in fact pull their students out of school during those days what the impact will be. Any insight on how this would impact the individual students and the schools in which they are enrolled?
Get ready to see schools reacting with horror as their collective test scores plummet. I don't see how this will have a positive result for anyone.
I also wonder if parents do in fact pull their students out of school during those days what the impact will be. Any insight on how this would impact the individual students and the schools in which they are enrolled?
Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
Campbell's Law is an adage developed by Donald T. Campbell.
"The more any quantitative social indicator is used for social decisionmaking, the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it is intended to monitor."1.
The social science principle of Campbell's Law is sometimes used to point out the negative consequences of high-stakes testing in U.S. classrooms. Such testing is promoted by the No Child Left Behind Act.
What Campbell also states in this principle is that "achievement tests may well be valuable indicators of general school achievement under conditions of normal teaching aimed at general competence. But when test scores become the goal of the teaching process, they both lose their value as indicators of educational status and distort the educational process in undesirable ways. (Similar biases of course surround the use of objective tests in courses or as entrance examinations.)" 1
Campbell's Law was published in 1976 by Donald T. Campbell, an experimental social science researcher and the author of many works on research methodology.
[edit] References
* Berliner, David C. & Nichols, Sharon L. "High-Stakes Testing Is Putting the Nation At Risk" Education Week, 3/12/07. http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2007/03/12/27berliner.h26.html
* Nichols, Sharon L. & Berliner, David C. "The Inevitable Corruption of Indicators and Educators
Through High-Stakes Testing" The Great Lakes Center for Education Research & Practice, East Lansing, MI, March 2005. http://www.greatlakescenter.org/g_l_new_doc/EPSL-0503-101-EPRU-exec.pdf
1 Campbell's Law: Campbell, Donald T., "Assessing the Impact of Planned Social Change" The Public Affairs Center, Dartmouth College, December, 1976. [1]
[edit] See also
* Nichols, S. L., & Berlner, D. C. (2007). Collateral Damage: How high-stakes testing corrupts America's schools Cambridge, MA: Harvard Education Press
This culture-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.
"The more any quantitative social indicator is used for social decisionmaking, the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it is intended to monitor."1.
The social science principle of Campbell's Law is sometimes used to point out the negative consequences of high-stakes testing in U.S. classrooms. Such testing is promoted by the No Child Left Behind Act.
What Campbell also states in this principle is that "achievement tests may well be valuable indicators of general school achievement under conditions of normal teaching aimed at general competence. But when test scores become the goal of the teaching process, they both lose their value as indicators of educational status and distort the educational process in undesirable ways. (Similar biases of course surround the use of objective tests in courses or as entrance examinations.)" 1
Campbell's Law was published in 1976 by Donald T. Campbell, an experimental social science researcher and the author of many works on research methodology.
[edit] References
* Berliner, David C. & Nichols, Sharon L. "High-Stakes Testing Is Putting the Nation At Risk" Education Week, 3/12/07. http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2007/03/12/27berliner.h26.html
* Nichols, Sharon L. & Berliner, David C. "The Inevitable Corruption of Indicators and Educators
Through High-Stakes Testing" The Great Lakes Center for Education Research & Practice, East Lansing, MI, March 2005. http://www.greatlakescenter.org/g_l_new_doc/EPSL-0503-101-EPRU-exec.pdf
1 Campbell's Law: Campbell, Donald T., "Assessing the Impact of Planned Social Change" The Public Affairs Center, Dartmouth College, December, 1976. [1]
[edit] See also
* Nichols, S. L., & Berlner, D. C. (2007). Collateral Damage: How high-stakes testing corrupts America's schools Cambridge, MA: Harvard Education Press
This culture-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.
Wed Apr 9, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Question Of The Week: Test In Spanish?
I don't think they should change the test into Spanish. I think they should learn English. There goes more money being spent on something else again. I think if you live here you should at least learn the language. I agree other countries are not as accomodating.
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