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Not to worry, the original thread will always be there for future reference and study:
What's Going On At Gunsaulus Academy?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 1:11 AM
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re-posted from previous comment thread:
A few highlights from the meeting--
Not as much to discuss on the agenda items. The voting boundary was expanded. This means that more community members can vote in the LSC elections. It does not impact enrollment eligibility.
The more interesting pasrt was the public participation and after the meeting. Reps from the Chicago Teachers Union, includin Marilyn Stewart were present to speak on behalf of the teachers. They encouraged the administration to treat the teachers with respect and to have concern for teacher and school safety.
The LSC chair was quick to try to disqualify one speaker, because he signed up on the attendance form rather than the speaker form, and as such was told that he could not speak. This occurred even though there were not 10 registered speakers (the maximum allowed) and the meeting was far from over (meetings are scheduled not to exceed 7:30p, and it was only about 7:10p). However, he spoke anyway.
Some community person, complained about the parent patrol on a specific corner by the school, saying that this person was "socializing" and not paying attention to the children. I drive past this corner everday, and I have never observed that particular person not doing her job. She is out there everyday, regardless of the weather, and is VERY attention to the students. Don't be surprised when you see this person accepted as the LSC community rep, since there is a comm. rep position open.
After the meeting, was more interesting. A small group of parents, CTU members, and an LSC relations rep from CPS were standing in front of the school talking. Here comes a police car with two officers. They said that Roberto in the office called them and said there was a "fight in the auditorium". I told him that there was no fight, but that people were exhorting the LSC chair to allow the speaker from CTU to talk, even though he did not sign the correct sheet. I also pointed out that there were two CPS security guards in the auditorium for the meeting, and that neither one of them felt a need to respond to anything, so what kind of fight could there be?
I didn't realize that questioning the LSC chair and the principal is grounds for summoning the police.
Gale
When questioned by another speaker, the principal professed not to know that there were over 40 calls for service for Chicago Police this school year alone. She could really be in the dark about the number of times, since there are so many calls that she probably can't keep track anymore.
A few highlights from the meeting--
Not as much to discuss on the agenda items. The voting boundary was expanded. This means that more community members can vote in the LSC elections. It does not impact enrollment eligibility.
The more interesting pasrt was the public participation and after the meeting. Reps from the Chicago Teachers Union, includin Marilyn Stewart were present to speak on behalf of the teachers. They encouraged the administration to treat the teachers with respect and to have concern for teacher and school safety.
The LSC chair was quick to try to disqualify one speaker, because he signed up on the attendance form rather than the speaker form, and as such was told that he could not speak. This occurred even though there were not 10 registered speakers (the maximum allowed) and the meeting was far from over (meetings are scheduled not to exceed 7:30p, and it was only about 7:10p). However, he spoke anyway.
Some community person, complained about the parent patrol on a specific corner by the school, saying that this person was "socializing" and not paying attention to the children. I drive past this corner everday, and I have never observed that particular person not doing her job. She is out there everyday, regardless of the weather, and is VERY attention to the students. Don't be surprised when you see this person accepted as the LSC community rep, since there is a comm. rep position open.
After the meeting, was more interesting. A small group of parents, CTU members, and an LSC relations rep from CPS were standing in front of the school talking. Here comes a police car with two officers. They said that Roberto in the office called them and said there was a "fight in the auditorium". I told him that there was no fight, but that people were exhorting the LSC chair to allow the speaker from CTU to talk, even though he did not sign the correct sheet. I also pointed out that there were two CPS security guards in the auditorium for the meeting, and that neither one of them felt a need to respond to anything, so what kind of fight could there be?
I didn't realize that questioning the LSC chair and the principal is grounds for summoning the police.
Gale
When questioned by another speaker, the principal professed not to know that there were over 40 calls for service for Chicago Police this school year alone. She could really be in the dark about the number of times, since there are so many calls that she probably can't keep track anymore.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:51 AM
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I can't believe that woman. Kotz has got to be the most racist person I have ever seen. I truly believe that she doesn't like blacks. My five year old is now going to really suffer in this school because I went off on her last night after the LSC meeting. The board really needs to listen to the parents and teachers about this principal. Another night of the CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT was called.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Just another meeting?
Sounds as though not much happened in the meeting. What was the point?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 2:53 PM
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It was quite a full agenda for the LSC meeting. When I said that there was not much to comment on regarding the agenda items, I meant that the items were very straightforward, and there was really nothiing on which I could comment. NCLB, BAC, PPLC reports, etc.
Although, as best as I can tell, no one lost their job from a SIPAA amendment.
Gale
Although, as best as I can tell, no one lost their job from a SIPAA amendment.
Gale
Thu May 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM
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Thank you for the clarification. You probably mean no one lost their job this week. I guess Amy is having a slow week.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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I AM FURIOUS!!! THE CHILDREN IN SPECIAL ED GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT! THEY DONT GET THE SAME PUNISHMENT AS WE DO!!!! ALL BECAUSE OF WHO? HMMM...
Thu May 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM
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This has been a major problem at the school this year. Discipline is very subjective and students with disabilities do seem to get aeay with a lot...even if the behavior is not reflective of their IEP. I am sorry you are frustrated...we all are. Certain students have more power than the teachers and witnessed by the new behaviors this year at Gunsaulus...the only logical conclusion is that the administration is at fault and continues to play favorites at the expense of the safety and education of all other students. If you are a student, have your parent set up a conference...they back down or step up if mom comes in.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 5:36 PM
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gosh i cant believe this. gunsaulus is going down the drain. I will never come back until kotz and her posse are gone. dubin, i just cant stand that woman. Kotz has been fired soo many times as principal yet still emerges stronger in attacking people.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 6:52 PM
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According to the "Student Code Of Conduct", page 42, Appendix E-Procedural Guide For Students With Disabilities: School officials may suspend students with disabilities and cease educational services for a total of up to 10 CONSECUTIVE OR 10 CUMULATIVE SCHOOL DAYS IN ONE SCHOOL YEAR without providing special education procedural safeguards. Principals do not have to suspend students with disabilities for the MANDATORY PERIOD SET FORTH IN THIS CODE FOR A SINGLE OFFENSE. The principal has discretion to be flexible in the amount of days of suspension given to each special education student with disabilities. Students with disabilities can be suspended in excess of 10 school days in certain circumstances. IN ORDER TO SUSPEND A STUDENT WITH A DISABILITY IN EXCESS OF 10 SCHOOL DAYS, THE OFFICE OF DUE PROCESS AND MEDIATION AT (773) 553-1905 MUST FIRST BE CONSULTED FOR APPROVAL. WITHOUT SUCH CONSULTATION AND APPROVAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT, THE CURRENT PROCEDURES LIMITING SUSPENSIONS FOR DISABLED STUDENTS TO 10 DAYS IN A SCHOOL YEAR WILL APPLY.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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or principal is going to get you know where--I am glad someone called the police on you. If I would have been in the building, I would ahve called 911 on you. Youhave issues so take care of them, but going off on aduklts and letting children see this is wrong--guess what, I bet your own child goes off on you! Fruit does not fall far from the tree.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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Was the rule about signing up to speak before the LSC meeting and only allowing 10 speakers voted on? I do remember the time limit ----the meeting should not last past 7:30 P.M.---was voted on and agreed last year. If there is time left after the signed in speakers--why can't there be public participation? There was another lady who wanted to speak and was not allowed by the LSC chair. She just wasn't as forceful as the man from the union who spoke basically without permission.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:00 PM
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the princial at ANY school has to abide by the rule of LAW when it comes to special education students. If is not always fair or right, BUT if these students have an IEP or 504 plan--this is a federal law and they just do not get the same punishment. Even if a principal ot teacher wanted to do more, the principal would be in big trouble for even trying to.
As a parent volunteering in a kindergarten class, i saw a 5 year old, hit and spit onthe students almost every day. I actually heard CPS tell the principal that they could NOT suspend this child since they were in kindergarten. Sorry--I do not like it either, but CPS and federal law does not allow this.
As a parent volunteering in a kindergarten class, i saw a 5 year old, hit and spit onthe students almost every day. I actually heard CPS tell the principal that they could NOT suspend this child since they were in kindergarten. Sorry--I do not like it either, but CPS and federal law does not allow this.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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I am sure that you know how difficult it is to suspend a sped student, esp. when the behavior is tied into the students disability. You know very well that you spare the days--parse them out, so that you do not give ALL 10 at one time, because you really cannot. (Unless the child is arrested and you know how hard EVEN then it is to suspend an EBD/or sped student. Many times they are back in school the next day.) Then, you call due process, but you are still only getting 1 -2 days at a time. You also know--or have you forgotten, the late nights just doing ALL of that paperwork--and if you put in 1 thing wrong, or a typo, you have to do it all over again. Or law/due process looses it and your fax just quits on you from so many papers. or youhave to leave your building to go downtown and pay $25 to park.
Dear RP--you quote chapter and verse well, above in you post, but you know very well that there is so much more above, behind, and around the rules in the SCC that a principal is responsible for and many MANY times,our hands are bound. Please share this in your posts as well.
Dear RP--you quote chapter and verse well, above in you post, but you know very well that there is so much more above, behind, and around the rules in the SCC that a principal is responsible for and many MANY times,our hands are bound. Please share this in your posts as well.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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At Gunsaulus, special ed kids get to walk out of class when they want, threaten teachers and students, swear at authority, ignore general schedules and rules, fight, arrive late, and turn in no work without consequence. What does the law say about that? We know the UDC codes...the point is not the type of punishment that is given but the lack of any punishment at all. If a teacher writes up a special ed kid for any of the above offenses, they are told that they are picking on them. Special ed does not mean run of house and respect and rules optional.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:17 PM
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"special ed kids get to walk out of class..., threaten teachers and students, swear at authority, ignore general schedules and rules, fight, arrive late, and turn in no work without consequence. What does the law say about that?
WHAT DO THE PARENTS OF THESE STUDENTS SAY ABOUT THAT?
WHAT DO THE PARENTS OF THESE STUDENTS SAY ABOUT THAT?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM
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the special ed student does anything to Ms. Kotz. THEN the police are called and the student is suspended for quite some time. If this student had written death threats to the principal, the punishment would have been different. When the special ed students swear at teachers NOTHING happens, but they get suspended for swearing at Kotz. That is the the issue.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:31 PM
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Were you there, or is this hearsay? Are you the parent or relative of the student? Are you the teacher that was threatened? This is the problem with all the grapevine/gossip reports on this school. I recall in this blog, someone blaming administration for calling DCFS—mandated-- only to have the child recant. So the anti-administration bloggers blamed her for calling and then blamed her for the child recanting. Blogs can bring the truth to light, but too often, entries are only supported by hearsay and gossip.
The CTU was represented at the LSC meeting, the AIO and MSD as well as probably any lawyer CPS can spare is watching this school every day. They will assure that administration takes care of anything that can be substantiated AND the rules will be followed.
Don’t you get that by now?
The CTU was represented at the LSC meeting, the AIO and MSD as well as probably any lawyer CPS can spare is watching this school every day. They will assure that administration takes care of anything that can be substantiated AND the rules will be followed.
Don’t you get that by now?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:48 PM
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To Dear Retired Principal, you are right! I used to call these 10 days for the whole school year and the law department used to call these 10 days for the whole school year, "TEN BRICKS OF GOLD"! Which means, you had better use them very carefully! I was quite efficient in filling out all of the paperwork and participating in the IEP meetings and expulsion hearings. P.S.- When I saw that a student's disability was EBD well you know the rest!
Thu May 14, 2009 at 7:58 PM
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Wow! 2.0??! Really? Can't we just stick with the regular Gunsaulus blog? Oh well.
I wasn't at the LSC meeting last night, but Mrs. Suwe, as well as Mr. Suwe, has provided me with a lot of info on what happened last night?
Kotz pretends she doesn't know anything when it comes to the issue of the police being called in for over 40 times. She even replied, "What year was this?" She knows all about this.
In a matter of fact, she called the police last night, oh wait, it wasn't her. It was her "bilingual" school clerk, Roberto Arrona. When the police came there, they said Roberto called them, and there was a fight in the auditorium. WHAT FIGHT? There was no fights, FALSE ACCUSATION! The thing that Kotz is known for.
I wasn't at the LSC meeting last night, but Mrs. Suwe, as well as Mr. Suwe, has provided me with a lot of info on what happened last night?
Kotz pretends she doesn't know anything when it comes to the issue of the police being called in for over 40 times. She even replied, "What year was this?" She knows all about this.
In a matter of fact, she called the police last night, oh wait, it wasn't her. It was her "bilingual" school clerk, Roberto Arrona. When the police came there, they said Roberto called them, and there was a fight in the auditorium. WHAT FIGHT? There was no fights, FALSE ACCUSATION! The thing that Kotz is known for.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:02 PM
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No, it isn't hearsay. We are teachers at the school and this is the case. A special ed child was arrested and suspended for many days for pushing past the principal. The 2 boys that constantly swear at teachers and walk out of class and fight haven't had a single consequence until they swore at Ms. Kotz. This was already stated earlier in the blog. If you are going to read this, then please read it carefully and completely before you start calling things gossip and hearsay.
About the DCFS - yes, the principal is a mandated reporter, and so am I. Yes, the child did recant the statement, so then let DCFS handle the rest. DCFS said it was unfounded. It should have been done right? Wrong - Kotz wasn't happy that the teacher didn't suffer so she reopended the case AFTER the recanted statement and involved the Law Department.
How do you feel about these TRUTHS now?
About the DCFS - yes, the principal is a mandated reporter, and so am I. Yes, the child did recant the statement, so then let DCFS handle the rest. DCFS said it was unfounded. It should have been done right? Wrong - Kotz wasn't happy that the teacher didn't suffer so she reopended the case AFTER the recanted statement and involved the Law Department.
How do you feel about these TRUTHS now?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM
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Perhaps federal law and school code should change then because I don't care how special ed a kid is if they threaten to kill someone then they don't belong around my children.
We feel sorry for this kid? Ya they have issues but when do we decide to use our 10 bricks of gold once the child has killed someone? Doesn't cps have enough deaths this year. If kids are crazy and violent and hurting people then Kotz needs to do something and stop covering her own butt. This is bull**** you have to be kidding me that we don't do anything bout these special ed kids.
We feel sorry for this kid? Ya they have issues but when do we decide to use our 10 bricks of gold once the child has killed someone? Doesn't cps have enough deaths this year. If kids are crazy and violent and hurting people then Kotz needs to do something and stop covering her own butt. This is bull**** you have to be kidding me that we don't do anything bout these special ed kids.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:15 PM
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when I told a student that he would be written up or suspended for his inappropriate behavior he flat out told me "I can't get in trouble I'm Ld" The problem is these kids know the system and they work it like professionals. If they can use excuseslike that to get away without being punished then most of them know right from wrong.
To me its seems like it would be ones advantage to be labeled special Ed It seems they can get away with anything they choose threating students and teachers included.
To me its seems like it would be ones advantage to be labeled special Ed It seems they can get away with anything they choose threating students and teachers included.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:33 PM
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If a student can shout out his "disability" as a defense, then he or she knows that they can committ these acts and get away with them. If they can be included with the regular ed students then they must be made to suffer the same consequences for their actions. Under the law SPECIAL EDS must be included, well then if they act out or misbehave the rules should INCLUDE them too!!!!
Does anyone agree?
Does anyone agree?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM
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"so she reopended the case AFTER the recanted statement and involved the Law Department."
Law had to be involved per CPS policy whether the principal wanted it or not.
Law had to be involved per CPS policy whether the principal wanted it or not.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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dems the rules - call your state legislator, senator or president to get the rules changed. Stop blaming this principal--you would even blame her for bad weather!
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM
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I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH BOTH STATEMENTS. HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE CONSEQUENCES? THESE KIDS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND PURPOSELY DOING IT BECAUSE THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. KOTZ IS LAZY AND DOESN'T WANT TO DO PAPERWORK THAT IT INVOLVES. IF THE TEACHERS ARE BUSTING THEIR BUTTS TO FOLLOW DISCIPLINE AND ARE DOING WRITE-UPS THEN WHY SHOULD IT ALL BE FOR NOTHING? WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOCUMENTING THEN? IMAGINE IF I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH SOME BEHAVIOR ISSUE AS AN ADULT AND WENT OUT INTO A PUBLIC BUILDING AND THREATENED TO KILL EVERYONE. WHEN THE POLICE CAME I SAY I HAVE AN EXCUSE AND THEY WILL JUST LEAVE AND NOT DO ANYTHING? HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
MAYBE PLUAS IS A BIGGER PART OF THE PROBLEM. WHILE SUPERVISING THE IN SCHOOL ART COLORING PROJECT (AKA "DETENTION") THE OTHER DAY SHE TOLD ALL THE STUDENTS THAT AT THIS SCHOOL TEACHERS ARE TOO QUICK TO WRITE THE KIDS UP. AT HER OLD SCHOOL A STUDENT THREATENED TO STAB HER AND SHE "DIDN'T WRITE HIM UP OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF HER HEART." WOW YOU'RE A REAL GEM PLUAS. THERE IS NO KINDNESS IN YOUR HEART, AND WHY ARE YOU INVOLVING THE CHILDREN IN ADULT MATTERS? WASN'T THAT YOURS AND PLUAS' MANTRA EARLIER IN THE YEAR? DIDN'T EVERYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR SUPPOSEDLY INVOLVING CHILDREN? WELL YOU LOSE BOZO BECAUSE THIS ISN'T HEARSAY. SEVERAL STUDENTS AND TEACHERS WILL ATTEST TO WHAT WAS SAID. GET OVER YOURSELF AND GET A NEW WARDROBE.
MAYBE PLUAS IS A BIGGER PART OF THE PROBLEM. WHILE SUPERVISING THE IN SCHOOL ART COLORING PROJECT (AKA "DETENTION") THE OTHER DAY SHE TOLD ALL THE STUDENTS THAT AT THIS SCHOOL TEACHERS ARE TOO QUICK TO WRITE THE KIDS UP. AT HER OLD SCHOOL A STUDENT THREATENED TO STAB HER AND SHE "DIDN'T WRITE HIM UP OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF HER HEART." WOW YOU'RE A REAL GEM PLUAS. THERE IS NO KINDNESS IN YOUR HEART, AND WHY ARE YOU INVOLVING THE CHILDREN IN ADULT MATTERS? WASN'T THAT YOURS AND PLUAS' MANTRA EARLIER IN THE YEAR? DIDN'T EVERYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR SUPPOSEDLY INVOLVING CHILDREN? WELL YOU LOSE BOZO BECAUSE THIS ISN'T HEARSAY. SEVERAL STUDENTS AND TEACHERS WILL ATTEST TO WHAT WAS SAID. GET OVER YOURSELF AND GET A NEW WARDROBE.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM
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The DCFS case you speak of was dismissed by the law dept and DCFS...the principal was not satisfied and called the law dept to REinvestigate. Every time she is called before the law dept, union, even parents...it is nothing but lies and false allegations. Believe me...we know the laws and rules and codes. They should be used properly and not abused for someone's sick personal vendetta.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:43 PM
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Yesterday it rained a lot. I blame this on Amy Kotz. Negative people cause negative weather.
She should really get a control over Mother Nature. Good for nothing.
She should really get a control over Mother Nature. Good for nothing.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM
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We don't have to get personal. They could wear sarongs and flip flops every day if they would just lead the school fairly, properly, and according to the law.
And whoever keeps calling us the "g-gang"...we are not really blaming because that would indicate that we were searching for who is responsible for the problems. We know who is responsible. We are calling her out to do the right thing. Sorry you do not like the truth.
And whoever keeps calling us the "g-gang"...we are not really blaming because that would indicate that we were searching for who is responsible for the problems. We know who is responsible. We are calling her out to do the right thing. Sorry you do not like the truth.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:50 PM
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And once again we lose focus and enter the mundane. I caused the rain. Now back to the real issues...
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:50 PM
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...But aren't sarongs and flip flops beach wear? That wouldn't fit into their mandate that we dress like we work at a bank everyday. Little did I know that poofy vests and extremely short pants are bank attire.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:56 PM
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I guess I'm confused as to why so many "outsiders" are claiming that the Gunsaulus staff are gossipers and everything is hearsay. How would you know unless you are in the school? The only things that seem contradictory on this blog are the lies occasionally thrown in by the administration or their flunkies. That is why things seem back and forth.
I guess I'm just confused as to why you would take such personal offense to even comment on how we are all just complaining while YOU read our blog regularly unless you weren't truly someone with a vested interest in Gunsaulus....or unless you weren't one of the "other side" yourself. Can't we just fix the problems and all this chaos would stop? To quote a song by Lauryn Hill, "This could all be so simple, but you'd rather make it hard..." Kotz' theme song. It NEVER had to be this way.
I guess I'm just confused as to why you would take such personal offense to even comment on how we are all just complaining while YOU read our blog regularly unless you weren't truly someone with a vested interest in Gunsaulus....or unless you weren't one of the "other side" yourself. Can't we just fix the problems and all this chaos would stop? To quote a song by Lauryn Hill, "This could all be so simple, but you'd rather make it hard..." Kotz' theme song. It NEVER had to be this way.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM
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If a special education student is a risk to themselves or anyone else, the IEP team should pursue a different placement for the student (i.e. a therapeutic day school like Montefiore or Las Casas). OSS will make the team jump through hoops (tons of anecdotals, consultations/observations by a behavior consultant). Part of the 'proof' that can help bolster the team's case is if the student has been suspended for self-injurious behavior or threats to teachers or students. If the team can prove that the student is a risk to others, OSS is compelled, by law, to place the student in a setting where they and others will be safe.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM
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To Special Ed Teacher from another school:
Thank you for understanding the situation and stating the true law instead of just assuming that Gunsaulus teachers hate special ed students and don't want them around. We have always and will always work with special ed students, that's not the problem. The problem is that these poor students KNOW they no longer have consequences from the administration so are now causing havoc on purpose.
Again, thanks for your insight. It is MUCH appreciated. :)
Thank you for understanding the situation and stating the true law instead of just assuming that Gunsaulus teachers hate special ed students and don't want them around. We have always and will always work with special ed students, that's not the problem. The problem is that these poor students KNOW they no longer have consequences from the administration so are now causing havoc on purpose.
Again, thanks for your insight. It is MUCH appreciated. :)
Thu May 14, 2009 at 9:02 PM
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Thanks for your input but this has to start with the educational leader of the school. The point we are making is that none of the concerns or write ups ever get further than administration. They talk to the kids, let them color a while and then send them back to class. ALL of our Special Ed kids are in regular classrooms for the majority of the day and I have no problem with that. The problem is that we get no support from the "team" because the administration decided the steps...and never take them.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM
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i do not like what this lady is doing at our school but she has messed it up by trying to make it like a suburban school
Thu May 14, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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You stated "The CTU was represented at the LSC meeting, the AIO and MSD as well as probably any lawyer CPS can spare is watching this school every day. They will assure that administration takes care of anything that can be substantiated AND the rules will be followed.
Don’t you get that by now?"
No, I don't get that. That is the point. Substantiated evidence is NOT being taken care of, nor are rules being followed. How do we know "lawyers are watching this school?" Nothing has changed and Ms. Kotz is still trying to intimidate and manipulate staff.
Don’t you get that by now?"
No, I don't get that. That is the point. Substantiated evidence is NOT being taken care of, nor are rules being followed. How do we know "lawyers are watching this school?" Nothing has changed and Ms. Kotz is still trying to intimidate and manipulate staff.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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To: To Special Ed teacher
Unless your IEP team is composed of your principal's supporters, they should be able to pursue a different setting regardless of the principal's opinion. It is their duty to uphold the rights of special education students re: IDEA. If a student is causing this much disruption, they cannot possibly be learning, and therefore they are not being given the right to a Free Appropriate Public Education as defined in IDEA. Tell them to call CPS's law department if they are afraid of reprisal from the principal. The law dept. is more concerned with avoiding expensive due process hearings than anything else. If the law department hears that a principal is not allowing an IEP team to place a student in their appropriate Least Restrictive Environment, they most likely will step in.
Unless your IEP team is composed of your principal's supporters, they should be able to pursue a different setting regardless of the principal's opinion. It is their duty to uphold the rights of special education students re: IDEA. If a student is causing this much disruption, they cannot possibly be learning, and therefore they are not being given the right to a Free Appropriate Public Education as defined in IDEA. Tell them to call CPS's law department if they are afraid of reprisal from the principal. The law dept. is more concerned with avoiding expensive due process hearings than anything else. If the law department hears that a principal is not allowing an IEP team to place a student in their appropriate Least Restrictive Environment, they most likely will step in.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:12 PM
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hey guys-what happend with kotz talking to the parents of the students who wer bloggin? I heard their parents had to come to school and talk with Amy. I saw one student and his mom at the LSC meeting last night. Did they ever come in? Are the kids in trouble?
Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM
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Yes, I went to hell off. Because my son who is only five years old and black, Amy seems to be nick picking on him. Denying him to go on his last class trip. Why? because he had a disability. So , to hell with you and everybody else who thinks that Ms. Amy was right. WRONG! See, I made calls and got things done. Yes, he will be going on his trip. Yes, I let her sick behind take me out of my element. WHO are you to say the fruit don't fall from the tree? Sweety, my job alone will out weigh you.Yes, the police was called! So, what! Was I suppose to be scared. Hell no. As a balck woman will I stand up for my rights. Noone will ever walk over me or my son. So, TO HELL WITH YOU AND WHAT EVER YOU THINK ABOUT ME! AND LEARN HOW TO USE PROPER ENGLISH.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:32 PM
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My son who has disabilities doesn't get special treatment. He is only five and has been suspended.
Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:37 PM
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What do you mean: trying to make it into a suburban school?
Fri May 15, 2009 at 1:37 AM
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Sounds like Ms. Kotz is doing a fine job, from an unbiased observer. I hope she keeps it up.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 5:58 AM
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Seriously? I love when people get on this blog and make these statements just to make people go off. If everything you have read on this blog makes you think she is doing a fine job, you need as much mental health assistance as she does.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:10 AM
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The next plan should be to get the chair OFF and OUT of that position. 14 years is long enough! Please encourage the other LSC members to think long and hard when they vote for chair on July 1,2009. If they vote him as chair again, next year will be like this year..........lots of problems and no solutions or explanations. Why is he in the school all the time? Is it LSC business? Why is he and other LSC members in Kotz's office with doors closed? What could they be talking about? Maybe so they are all on the same page when it comes to voting, there is no I in team Bert Finelli.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:15 AM
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In the main office, there is a sign stating that it is only office staff and administration permitted behind the desk. However, Reed is behind there constantly, speaking to parents, at the computers, etc. He also has keys to the building! What are the rules about this?
And yet the teacher rep on the LSC wants parents to fill out applications and be screened before they can volunteer in their child's classroom, as if teachers aren't capable of making that decision themselves.
Please, if anyone is reading this who has the power, the next LSC election needs to monitored VERY carefully by an outside authority. He made a mockery of it last year.
And yet the teacher rep on the LSC wants parents to fill out applications and be screened before they can volunteer in their child's classroom, as if teachers aren't capable of making that decision themselves.
Please, if anyone is reading this who has the power, the next LSC election needs to monitored VERY carefully by an outside authority. He made a mockery of it last year.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:15 AM
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You know what is sad? The parents on here making these comments about how one parent cursed KOTZ out and how KOTZ is doing such a good job, but what happened to you at the LSC meeting. It wasn't nothing but a handful of people. If you were there you could have seen how much of a liar she is. Do you guys really THINK in your small minds think what she is doing GREAT? Come on get real! What are you going to do when the BOARD actually gets fed up with her and her ADMINISTRATION and get rid of all of them. It is bound to happen.
Apparently you don't have kids in the school.Are you family of KOTZ and PLUAS? Put yourself in our shoes! Than you wil realize that they are the NAZI.
Apparently you don't have kids in the school.Are you family of KOTZ and PLUAS? Put yourself in our shoes! Than you wil realize that they are the NAZI.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:15 AM
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Some will remember that Ms. Kotz was part of the tidal wave of first-time principals created when CPS offered early retirement incentives to the old guard of principals nearing retirement age. CPS also took this opportunity to roll-out many unpopular initiatives designed to break the stranglehold CTU has on neighborhood schools. These first-time principals are now facing the music for Arne Duncan's decisions. This same drama is unfolding at LSC meetings all over the city. Sadly, most teachers and parents are clueless to the big picture. Ms. Kotz was hired to clean up Gunsaulus, and she is only doing what she is told. If you really want to know what's happening at Gusaulus, ask Ron Huberman.
In five years, the CTU will be gone and all our kids will be attending Charter Schools. Bravo, Marilyn!
In five years, the CTU will be gone and all our kids will be attending Charter Schools. Bravo, Marilyn!
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:25 AM
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Please explain why a magnet school with high scores, students being accepted to selective enrollment high schools and high level of parent, teacher and student satisfaction needed "cleaning up". What was there to clean? It's not as if she has targeted one facet of the school. All departments, grade levels and positions have been affected.
Seriously, please explain.
Seriously, please explain.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:50 AM
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Regarding the LSC, any parent has the right to ask members of the LSC how they stand on the issues. After all we are the ones that voted them in. THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. The parent reps. should be representing the parents, not Fineli. He should not have keys to the school and he should not be involved in the day to day business of the school, yet he is allowed to, and as chair, he should know that. HE IS A PROBLEM! Why wont he let people speak at LSC meetings after the "10" signed up have spoken? And why does he not have ANY ANSWERS TO ANY OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS OF THE PARENTS? At the last LSC meeting, he and Kotz looked dumbfounded during the public participation.......oh, and what a great plan to call the police on the public after the meeting, that was productive. Why so defensive?
Fri May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM
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If Finelli is in the office and on the school computers, does that mean he has access to personnel files, student files? This is a scary thought!
Fri May 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM
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If this were like a suburban school, Bert & his sidekick would have been gone a long time ago. Suburban parents would never put up with their crimes & nonsense, and the district administrations would respond more appropriatly to unprofessional & criminal behavior and to the demands of parents. This could only happen in the bureaucracy of a Chicago public school.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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I'm sorry this blog long ago turned into a whizzin' contest, but here I go:
The difference between me, the Biased Observer, and the new blogger, Unbiased Observer, is that I am actually observing what is happening at Gunsaulus, and there is no way anyone can actually see what has transpired and not be biased against Bert & Friend.
Wait...let me take that back. I meant to say anyone who is sensible and has any sense of ethics. That certainly leaves a handful of people out, as we have all observed on this blog.
The difference between me, the Biased Observer, and the new blogger, Unbiased Observer, is that I am actually observing what is happening at Gunsaulus, and there is no way anyone can actually see what has transpired and not be biased against Bert & Friend.
Wait...let me take that back. I meant to say anyone who is sensible and has any sense of ethics. That certainly leaves a handful of people out, as we have all observed on this blog.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 1:41 PM
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I would suggest you look into who is holding the strings over Kotz. Are the professors at UIC-who have never been in a classroom-controlling her actions from a distance.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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Kotz likes to take credit for things that aren't because of her..yeah sure, this is the first time we've had college day, and other stuff, and she says SHE brought that her..WRONG! all she did was approve it....the students on the Junior Beta planned that...and worked it too. She didn't do anything except approve it...
Fri May 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM
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Did she go to the teachers fair looking for more victims to huntand prey On?
Fri May 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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Gunsaulus is turning into a chaotic mess!
Today, there was NO principal present in school.
Today, a NEW security guard replaced the old one, and this one, eh... can't complain. same as the old one.
Today, there was NO principal present in school.
Today, a NEW security guard replaced the old one, and this one, eh... can't complain. same as the old one.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 7:01 PM
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No principal today and it was pretty nice. People were actually smiling.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 7:52 PM
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In an earlier post, In the Know said "Ms. Kotz was hired to clean up Gunsaulus, and she is only doing what she is told. If you really want to know what's happening at Gusaulus, ask Ron Huberman."
I am not sure what you mean by "clean up Gunsaulus" but I assume you mean take steps towards union busting, since your post centered on CTU issues and also referenced charter schools.
As a parent, I don't pretend to know anything about CPS's agenda. I have observed that Daley and CPS in general are looking to eliminate neighborhood schools and seem to be moving towards a system that is entirely charter schools. Daley, being the champion of privatization of all public services, sets the tone for CPS as well as other public ventures.
It may very well be that Kotz is firing the PATs and making more sweeping changes as part of some grand secret scheme on the part of CPS. Between Daley and Arne Duncan, and the remnants of what Vallas started, anything is possible.
However, there are bigger issues afoot than just the firing of the PATs. Does CPS have some sort of secret directives that encourage principals to verbally abuse staff? Fabricate claims? Apply inconsistent and ridiculous discipline rules and fail to follow the SCC? Is there a directive that mandates that the LSC be given absolute power? Is there a directive for principals to create an environment that leads to an unsafe school? Is there a directive to view parents as "trespassers" rather than partners in the education process? (note-at the last LSC meeting, Kotz used the term "trespassing parents" when describing the reasons that police may have been called. If I have a child in that school, why am I trespassing? That phase does not support her claim that parents are welcome in the school) Is there a directive to intimidate and retaliate against teachers, staff and parents?
If these really ARE directives from CPS, then I guess Kotz is an excellent principal, since she is excelling in all of those areas.
Gale
I am not sure what you mean by "clean up Gunsaulus" but I assume you mean take steps towards union busting, since your post centered on CTU issues and also referenced charter schools.
As a parent, I don't pretend to know anything about CPS's agenda. I have observed that Daley and CPS in general are looking to eliminate neighborhood schools and seem to be moving towards a system that is entirely charter schools. Daley, being the champion of privatization of all public services, sets the tone for CPS as well as other public ventures.
It may very well be that Kotz is firing the PATs and making more sweeping changes as part of some grand secret scheme on the part of CPS. Between Daley and Arne Duncan, and the remnants of what Vallas started, anything is possible.
However, there are bigger issues afoot than just the firing of the PATs. Does CPS have some sort of secret directives that encourage principals to verbally abuse staff? Fabricate claims? Apply inconsistent and ridiculous discipline rules and fail to follow the SCC? Is there a directive that mandates that the LSC be given absolute power? Is there a directive for principals to create an environment that leads to an unsafe school? Is there a directive to view parents as "trespassers" rather than partners in the education process? (note-at the last LSC meeting, Kotz used the term "trespassing parents" when describing the reasons that police may have been called. If I have a child in that school, why am I trespassing? That phase does not support her claim that parents are welcome in the school) Is there a directive to intimidate and retaliate against teachers, staff and parents?
If these really ARE directives from CPS, then I guess Kotz is an excellent principal, since she is excelling in all of those areas.
Gale
Fri May 15, 2009 at 8:37 PM
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Although there was some "unhappiness" at the end of the LSC meeting, if I were Amy Kotz, I would be shaking in my boots. It is not often that Union President Marilyn Stewart shows up at an LSC meeting and speaks out for the teachers...accompanied by the head of Labor and Relations. I think we are finally being heard. We cannot stop our efforts to bring Gunsaulus back to the school it once was...before Amy's big "clean-up."
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:15 PM
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It's true. Marilyn Stewart doesn't show up very much at LSC meetings. Well, at least she helped Gunsaulus out. Not like Area 10 AIO, Mesa-Collins, who just wanted to say hello.
To Marilyn Stewart - Wonderful Job! You spoke for the Gunsaulus community who were desperate for help.
To Isabel Mesa-Collins - I just wanted to say Hello!
To Marilyn Stewart - Wonderful Job! You spoke for the Gunsaulus community who were desperate for help.
To Isabel Mesa-Collins - I just wanted to say Hello!
Fri May 15, 2009 at 9:18 PM
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Can we compare Kotz to say:
*Adolf Hitler -or- *Benito Mussolini
or something like that.
Well, people elected these dictators because they wanted change. So, when the previous LSC were desperate for a new principal, they just elected this woman in a rigged election. And now what? She has turned Gunsaulus into her own country! She probably thinks Gunsaulus is the best school, note the theory of nationalism. Maybe we should call it schoolism, or Kotzlism.
*Adolf Hitler -or- *Benito Mussolini
or something like that.
Well, people elected these dictators because they wanted change. So, when the previous LSC were desperate for a new principal, they just elected this woman in a rigged election. And now what? She has turned Gunsaulus into her own country! She probably thinks Gunsaulus is the best school, note the theory of nationalism. Maybe we should call it schoolism, or Kotzlism.
Fri May 15, 2009 at 10:03 PM
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I think we can all agree that Mesa-Collins and the rest of the bottom feeders at Area 10 are a waste of space. She should not be too comfy, though. The AIO is supposed to be watching the principals and taking care of some of these issues. She will be too busy covering her own ass to cover Amy's for much longer. As far as Flavia and the rest of the old girl's network...maybe CPS needs to take a longer look at how these people got their jobs in the first place. So many are tied together. Hope they bring each other doen in a fabulous way.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 12:22 AM
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I have been reading this blog from the beginning, and I have no doubt that the accusations against the principal and VP are true. I have witnessed the actions of one of CPS' "hit men" close up at another school. In this case, he was an "interim" sent from the board until the LSC could appoint a new principal. However, he decided he wanted the job despite the turmoil he was causing. In this case, the LSC had another candidate in mind so.....this principal attempted to have both the LSC chair and her father (who was also an LSC member) arrested on several occasions--even sent the police to their house. He also recruited a group from a nearby community to continually disrupt the LSC meetings so they could not complete business. Any teacher even seen with an LSC member was harassed and brought up on false charges to DCFS. The school was literally in chaos.
This story has a happy ending, however. This principal was finally removed by the LSC.
Forgive me for spending time on my story, but the teachers and parents at Gunsaulus have my admiration for standing up and speaking out about the abuse of power. I'm glad the CTU turned out for you. They were also instrumental in getting my situation resolved.
This story has a happy ending, however. This principal was finally removed by the LSC.
Forgive me for spending time on my story, but the teachers and parents at Gunsaulus have my admiration for standing up and speaking out about the abuse of power. I'm glad the CTU turned out for you. They were also instrumental in getting my situation resolved.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 8:43 AM
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Does anyone care that finelli just walks around the school like he is the owner of the building? Someone asked that if he has access to the school computers, what kind of information does he have access to? Most of us know Kotz is doing a horrible job, what about Finelli? He has lost his mind, and had rein over the school long enough. He picked Kotz, his "supporters" on the LSC just do whatever he says because they are his robots that can't think for themselves. Do they not see what has happened at this school is no ones fault but their own? Or do they think things are just fine? At the last LSC meeting they acted like everything was fine....From where I was sitting it looked like when it was time to vote for anything he looked at his robots and signaled them to vote his way, did anyone else notice that. We are running out of time here, we will be voting for LSC chair on July 1, parents please show up and hold the LSC accountable for who they are choosing as chair. If it's him again, there will be so many unhappy teachers who have to endure another year with him watching them and reporting to Kotz on who to get rid of. They are in ca-hoots, like a tangled web of deceit, two peas in a pod, birds of a feather, two wrongs don't make a right.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 8:44 AM
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To : a colleague in another public school
Thank you for recognizing the truth in what we say. Many of these stories seem unbelievable because no person who was decent and had the best interest of the school in mind would ever do these things. This is the problem. Honorable people would never even dream of some of the actions that have been taking place, so they can't imagine they are true. Well these stories are true, and there are so many more situations which have not even been mentioned.
Thank you for recognizing the truth in what we say. Many of these stories seem unbelievable because no person who was decent and had the best interest of the school in mind would ever do these things. This is the problem. Honorable people would never even dream of some of the actions that have been taking place, so they can't imagine they are true. Well these stories are true, and there are so many more situations which have not even been mentioned.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 8:54 AM
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Who holds the strings? Fanelli does.
There has to be a higher up with proof of all the wrong he does that can get rid of him. He's the LSC chair and he thinks he is the principal.
There has to be a higher up with proof of all the wrong he does that can get rid of him. He's the LSC chair and he thinks he is the principal.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 8:58 AM
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I am at another school in the area and have felt your pain. We, too, had a immmoral princiapl who shacked up for two hours a day in a locked office with his main squeeze who is now an administrator at another school. One assumes that those who teach or administrate have some kind of ethics but, as we know, LSCs are easily manipulated as are weaker teachers. Ours used to pay off the weaker teachers who would then do his dirty work.
We complained but got nowhere. We had to endure 4 years of hell before he retired (back as a consultant to the chickie) yet there is still a sad group of teachers who pine/whine for him. Keep fighting and I hope all you are together.
We complained but got nowhere. We had to endure 4 years of hell before he retired (back as a consultant to the chickie) yet there is still a sad group of teachers who pine/whine for him. Keep fighting and I hope all you are together.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 9:06 AM
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you are so right. I'm thinking the higher up's have the proof but have done nothing about it for so long they don't even see the wrong doing, so they are part of the problem as well. It is time to pass the torch to someone that really has the best interest of the teachers and students in mind. It's time for him to let it go, but he wont, he will hold on for dear life even if it means he has to lie cheat and steal for his position. Again, does anyone know what kind of information he has access to? And don't be fooled, he has a huge agenda with Kotz sitting right at his side.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM
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Finelli has access to EVERYTHING. He knows where teachers live. He has access to passwords for the computers. He has keys for EVERY lock in the school...which grants him access to EVERYTHING. He has used this knowledge as power. He is in the classrooms on weekends. Teachers came back one Monday to find rooms rearranged and furniture removed or replaced (with used stuff) on HIS recommendation. He has a CPS ID badge that he wears proudly. Sometimes when there are things that need to be done, the principal actually tells the teacher to contact Mr. Finelli!!! I may be wrong as I have never worked anywhere else, but is this typical of LSC chairs at other schools? I am shocked at the power that this man has within the school on a day to day basis. He indicated to several people that he made major budgetary decisions on the SIPAA. Even telling some HE was paying for certain people to stay next year. He went to a board meeting, without surveying or asking teacher opinion, and said we were ALL happy with the administration. How do we find out if he is being paid for something by CPS. Why does he have an official CPS ID badge?? Is he a vendor? He brings in used broken computers and furniture all the time and teachers are forced to allow him to put it in their rooms.
Please explain if you have any info.
Please explain if you have any info.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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Let's not forget that during the original principal slection process that he lied to the other members of the LSC, saying he visited candidate's schools and was not happy with what he saw. Not believing him, the teacher rep visited the schools and was told that no other rep from Ginsaulus had ever visited. He also called candidates, told them the questions that would be asked and instructed them how to answer. When some did not answer how they were told, they were knocked out of the process. I guess Amy was a good girl and did what she was told. (Remember the open forum...she promised to make safety and security a priority and promised to uphold the traditions and history of Gunsaulus...we all know that did not happen.) And let's not forget that the first person to lose his job was Fanelli's biggest thorn in his side...a teacher LSC rep that tried to fight his tyrannical hold on the school. I, too, have since "left" the school but Fanelli is definately the puppet master.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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Fanelli is indeed the one who is behind all this crazy stuff going on at Gunsaulus. Kotz does everything Fanelli tells her to do.
Why does Fanelli have so much access to the school? It's true. He probably knows much more about the school then all the staff members combined. He knows the computers' passwords. When I see him in the school he always have a lot of keys jingling in his pocket. So why does the school allow so much access to the LSC chair? Shouldn't the adminstration have the access? And why does Fanelli have that CPS id? He's not an employee of CPS! Check the FirstClass (CPS e-mail program)! Search in the directory of all the students, staff, workers, etc. of CPS. There all there. Except for Reid Fanelli. He's not a worker. He's a community rep. that gets his way into the LSC chair every year.
So, who's the first target that we're aiming for to get out? Fanelli. On July 1, go to the LSC voting session. Let's see if Fanelli gets another year of destruction...
When Fanelli's gone, the next target, Pluas. She is not suitable for AP, and she's not suitable for a disciplinarian. She has to go after Fanelli's gone.
Next target, Dubin. That woman walks around the school, has a HUGE office, and she yells at students and teachers. Also, she gets paid with a huge load of money. She's after Pluas.
Finally, the FINAL target... Kotz. If Fanelli, Pluas, and Dubin are gone, she's in deep trouble. She'll probably have panic attacks everyday, screaming, "I don't know what to do!!!"
After everyone on Kotz's posse are gone, Gunsaulus can strive for more academic success. With a new administration, and a new LSC chair, Gunsaulus can rise to the top, after this horrifying Kotz/Pluas/Fanelli/Dubin Reign of Terror.
Why does Fanelli have so much access to the school? It's true. He probably knows much more about the school then all the staff members combined. He knows the computers' passwords. When I see him in the school he always have a lot of keys jingling in his pocket. So why does the school allow so much access to the LSC chair? Shouldn't the adminstration have the access? And why does Fanelli have that CPS id? He's not an employee of CPS! Check the FirstClass (CPS e-mail program)! Search in the directory of all the students, staff, workers, etc. of CPS. There all there. Except for Reid Fanelli. He's not a worker. He's a community rep. that gets his way into the LSC chair every year.
So, who's the first target that we're aiming for to get out? Fanelli. On July 1, go to the LSC voting session. Let's see if Fanelli gets another year of destruction...
When Fanelli's gone, the next target, Pluas. She is not suitable for AP, and she's not suitable for a disciplinarian. She has to go after Fanelli's gone.
Next target, Dubin. That woman walks around the school, has a HUGE office, and she yells at students and teachers. Also, she gets paid with a huge load of money. She's after Pluas.
Finally, the FINAL target... Kotz. If Fanelli, Pluas, and Dubin are gone, she's in deep trouble. She'll probably have panic attacks everyday, screaming, "I don't know what to do!!!"
After everyone on Kotz's posse are gone, Gunsaulus can strive for more academic success. With a new administration, and a new LSC chair, Gunsaulus can rise to the top, after this horrifying Kotz/Pluas/Fanelli/Dubin Reign of Terror.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 10:18 AM
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Re: Finelli the puppet master, you are so right. There is no way he should be allowed to do the things he does inside that building. And his reign has been unproductive for way too long. Can we all agree on that? We have to get to the parents on the LSC to make sure they make the right decisions on July 1!
Sat May 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM
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As I have said many times, one person who is mad for power is only as effective as those around that enable him. This certainly is the case for Bert Fanelli. The parents, John, Maria, Crystal, and the community rep, Dorothy, and of course the principal, Kotz continue to support any idea that Fanelli has. They continue to vote with him 100% of the time. We need to hold our LSC members accountable for what is done by the LSC, and the support that the LSC gives to the actions of Kotz.
When you parents see these LSC members, ask them why they vote the way they do. Ask them to explain their rationale for continually changing the SIPAAA and the budget, which result in the removal of staff. Ask them what they think of the school. Ask them why they can't think for themselves. Ask them detailed and pointed questions about what they do. As powerful as Bert imagines himself to be, he can't control things without help. As powerful as Kotz is, she can't fire staff without the LSC voting to support her manipulations of the SIPAAA.
So, we have a very powerful cycle of events between the LSC and the principal.
The real solution is to vote off the members of the LSC whom you feel are not representing you. One small step would be to vote another person in as the chairperson of the LSC at the organizational meeting on July 1st. However, if the parent and community rep above continue to vote with Fanelli like the sheep that they are, then nothing will change.
As a layperson, I certainly do not have access to information that LSC members receive, so one could make the claim that my comments are a result of my ignorance of the issues and the specific information. But, I can read things, and I can use my mind. Any rational person should be able to determine that a carefully produced, 2 year school improvement plan (SIPAAA) should NOT need to change each month. The SIPAAA and its budget have been changed at almost every LSC meeting this year. Is there continual data coming in which warrants the changes? Or is it part of some long reaching plan to change entire environment of the school.
In addition, LSC members do not receive their detailed and specific information until they arrive at the LSC meeting. If the LSC members on the council REALLY are evaluating this information with their minds, and looking at the information objectively, then how can they possibly review and decide to approve this information when they have only viewed it for a few minutes? The answer is, they don't. The don't really look at the information. They don't really care what the information says. They only care what Bert says, because that is the way they will vote.
Those of you who were at the last LSC meeting will remember the discusision of the change to the voting boundaries for community members. What discussion there was, came from the parent rep Renee, and the teacher Ms. Esco. The other three parent reps, John, Maria, and Crystal, and the community rep, Dorothy, had nothing to add to the conversation. And why? Because it does not mattter to them, since they already picked up on the fact that Bert wanted the change, so that is the way they voted. Perhaps they imagine themselves to be in some sort of inner circle of power, and perhaps they are. However, they should know that as soon as they cease to become useful to Bert, they too, will suffer the effects.
One last thing-the vote to change the boundaries ONLY affects the voting privileges of the community members. Parents of children at the school always have the right to vote. So, why do we need to expand the boundaries for community members to vote? How does that benefit the school? It must be that there is someone lined up already to be voted in at the next election. Or perhaps there is another church full of voters that can be brought in to vote to assure that a certain person is guaranteed to get in.
Parents-look at every meeting to see who votes which way. If they don't represent you, then question them on it. If they don't represent you then vote them out at the next election.
Gale
When you parents see these LSC members, ask them why they vote the way they do. Ask them to explain their rationale for continually changing the SIPAAA and the budget, which result in the removal of staff. Ask them what they think of the school. Ask them why they can't think for themselves. Ask them detailed and pointed questions about what they do. As powerful as Bert imagines himself to be, he can't control things without help. As powerful as Kotz is, she can't fire staff without the LSC voting to support her manipulations of the SIPAAA.
So, we have a very powerful cycle of events between the LSC and the principal.
The real solution is to vote off the members of the LSC whom you feel are not representing you. One small step would be to vote another person in as the chairperson of the LSC at the organizational meeting on July 1st. However, if the parent and community rep above continue to vote with Fanelli like the sheep that they are, then nothing will change.
As a layperson, I certainly do not have access to information that LSC members receive, so one could make the claim that my comments are a result of my ignorance of the issues and the specific information. But, I can read things, and I can use my mind. Any rational person should be able to determine that a carefully produced, 2 year school improvement plan (SIPAAA) should NOT need to change each month. The SIPAAA and its budget have been changed at almost every LSC meeting this year. Is there continual data coming in which warrants the changes? Or is it part of some long reaching plan to change entire environment of the school.
In addition, LSC members do not receive their detailed and specific information until they arrive at the LSC meeting. If the LSC members on the council REALLY are evaluating this information with their minds, and looking at the information objectively, then how can they possibly review and decide to approve this information when they have only viewed it for a few minutes? The answer is, they don't. The don't really look at the information. They don't really care what the information says. They only care what Bert says, because that is the way they will vote.
Those of you who were at the last LSC meeting will remember the discusision of the change to the voting boundaries for community members. What discussion there was, came from the parent rep Renee, and the teacher Ms. Esco. The other three parent reps, John, Maria, and Crystal, and the community rep, Dorothy, had nothing to add to the conversation. And why? Because it does not mattter to them, since they already picked up on the fact that Bert wanted the change, so that is the way they voted. Perhaps they imagine themselves to be in some sort of inner circle of power, and perhaps they are. However, they should know that as soon as they cease to become useful to Bert, they too, will suffer the effects.
One last thing-the vote to change the boundaries ONLY affects the voting privileges of the community members. Parents of children at the school always have the right to vote. So, why do we need to expand the boundaries for community members to vote? How does that benefit the school? It must be that there is someone lined up already to be voted in at the next election. Or perhaps there is another church full of voters that can be brought in to vote to assure that a certain person is guaranteed to get in.
Parents-look at every meeting to see who votes which way. If they don't represent you, then question them on it. If they don't represent you then vote them out at the next election.
Gale
Sat May 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM
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At the last LSC meeting when the changing of the boundaries was brought up for vote, the LSC parent Rene asked why they were voting on an email suggestion that Bert received in 2007? Gale is right, there must have been some other reason to expand the boundaries, he must know some people over there that don't have kids at the school, are those people desperate to vote for our LSC? It makes you wonder why he introduced an email that is 2 years old, and that email did not just come to him, there must have been some questions asked to get a response back to him. He had the boundaries for his benefit only, why else?
Sat May 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM
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Now is the time! The school year ends in less than a month. If we want change in the LSC and the administration, we have to act as soom as possible! We have to hurry!
Sat May 16, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
who is this dubin and what gives her the right to yell at teachers and students?
where did she come from?
where did she come from?
Sat May 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Dubin is the 4th to 8th Grade literacy coach. She has NO right to yell at teachers and students. She is just and ordinary staff member, like the rest of the teachers. Of course, teachers can yell at students, so she yelling at students is ok, i guess. However, she has no right to yell at teachers.
To be honest with you, I don't know where she came from. You can get some more info on her at the previous Gunsaulus blog. However, I do know she has a home in Michigan. And that she and Kotz are friends. Thats the only reason she's here. Kotz just wants all her friends at Gunsaulus.
To be honest with you, I don't know where she came from. You can get some more info on her at the previous Gunsaulus blog. However, I do know she has a home in Michigan. And that she and Kotz are friends. Thats the only reason she's here. Kotz just wants all her friends at Gunsaulus.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
So what if she has a home in Michigan. Stick to the relevant facts.
Sat May 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The reference to Michigan home is because she often monopolizes grade level meeting time talking about personal issues like her summer home. It is frustrating and although seems like a small issue, is compounded by the fact that asking her to stop or even just going back to school topics as a response, results in her running to Kotz and complaining about you. That in turn will be reflected in the way you are treated by the administration.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 5:53 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I have heard from my kids that Dubin is very rude to both teachers and students. She has the nerve to yell at teachers in front of students, and yells at students no matter. It seems she has horrible people skills and isn't afraid to use them!
Sun May 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Someone said, "get out and vote July 1"
The only voting going on will be for the LSC members to elect a chair for the 2009-2010 school year. Fanelli has everyone to his left in his pocket, and they will undoubtedly vote him as chair again. If enough parents go to Maria, John and Crystal, maybe you can make them understand that they are not representing you by electing him chair once again.
Maybe someone can nominate someone else, like Renee, before one of them has the chance to nominate him. Who that someone else is, I don't know. Maybe one of our teacher reps?
The voting that everyone needs to get out and vote for are the LSC elections next April, where hopefully some parents who really do want the best for all students will run and defeat Fanelli and his sheep.
The only voting going on will be for the LSC members to elect a chair for the 2009-2010 school year. Fanelli has everyone to his left in his pocket, and they will undoubtedly vote him as chair again. If enough parents go to Maria, John and Crystal, maybe you can make them understand that they are not representing you by electing him chair once again.
Maybe someone can nominate someone else, like Renee, before one of them has the chance to nominate him. Who that someone else is, I don't know. Maybe one of our teacher reps?
The voting that everyone needs to get out and vote for are the LSC elections next April, where hopefully some parents who really do want the best for all students will run and defeat Fanelli and his sheep.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Just as an FYI to the parents: Unfortunately, teacher reps can't be LSC chairs. It has to be a parent.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Parents need to get out and talk to the parent and community reps and tell them point blank that they don't want fanelli as the chair. Then DOCUMENT these conversations. If they go against what the majority they represent wants thats powerful information.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes. Mr. Fanelli is the puppet master. He has been the LSC chair so long, he beleives his own lies. Besides the first teacher who lost his job, there have been other teachers who have had "issues" with Mr. Fanelli. Mr. Fanelli HAS definately influenced day to day operations at the school. He has his nose in everything. Look at the teachers who were given bogus disciplinary notices. Aside from the non-tenured teachers, Kotz's hit list includes teachers known to have disagreed with Mr. Fanelli. A coincidence? I don't think so. Just the puppet master without a life pulling his strings.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"Unfortunately, teacher reps can't be LSC chairs. It has to be a parent." You really need to rethink this statment. Really really think now. Although, thank goodness, this will never happen. There are already enough problems with LSCs and schools do not need more.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Does fanelli have children at gunsaulus?
if so what grades?
if so what grades?
Sun May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
in order to be a parent rep--however, unfair to be asking this --their grades? Go after the adult, not the children. If he did not have children at this school, he would not be a parent rep nor the chair.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
i dont want my kids steeping on no fanelli toes and then retailiated or harrassed
Sun May 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
No. Fanelli has NO children at Gunsaulus. His children have graduated from Gunsaulus years ago. He doesn't have any current children at Gunsaulus.
So, why is Fanelli a parent rep? Yes, he does live in the community, but he is not a parent of a current student. So, why is he the chair of the LSC? All the parent reps in the LSC have children CURRENTLY attending the school.
So, why is Fanelli a parent rep? Yes, he does live in the community, but he is not a parent of a current student. So, why is he the chair of the LSC? All the parent reps in the LSC have children CURRENTLY attending the school.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 8:28 PM
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that should disqualify him from holding that title. Isn't it true that if enough parents get out and vote for fanelli's running mate, wouldn't he be removed from his post? someone please explain to me so thatt i can understand the process.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes. Mr. Fanelli does have children currently enrolled at Gunsaulus. I agree with "keeping the children out of it" At the organizational meeting in July, the LSC members will choose a chairperson. Mr. Fanelli has the simple majority, so he most likely will be re-elected chairperson.
Sun May 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Finelli has 2 children at Gunsaulus. The vote is for chairperson...not to remove or vote new people in to the LSC. He will be chairperson because the only people that remain on the LSC are in his pocket.Anyone who vote the other way has been removed...with the exception of one parent rep. What needs to happen is parents need to start badgering the other parent reps and teacher reps...they cannot even explain why they vote the way they do on the issues.Three of them probably do not even know what they vote on most of the time because they just do what he says.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 6:22 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
So, if parents don't reach out to the other parents on the LSC and urge them to RE-consider who they vote for for chair, we will continue to struggle next year with the same issues and worse. If Bert is re-elected it will be the same next year. No doubt about it, but we can start to question HIM about why he is in the school so much, I don't feel comfortable with him there all of the time. The mix of him and Kotz is poison for all................
Mon May 18, 2009 at 7:41 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
What is the significance of Gunsaulus to Finelli? Why would he spend so much time attempting to gain control and power as these posts describe? It's just an elementary school. There really is not much power to gain. I'm really confused by these posts that seem to imply that elementary schools are of such huge importance. In the large scheme of things, a small elementary school in a politically insignificant neighborhood in Chicago really wields no power in any power structure that I can think of. Maybe he is just trying to be the best LSC chairperson that he knows how to be. And the same for Kotz as principal.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You sound REALLY confused by your comments. Bert and Kotz are NOT trying to be the best for anything or anyone except themselves. It is all about the money and power. There is no thought about children or education going on. They get thrills from scheming negatively and watching it play out. The one thing you are correct about is that really, the LSC of Gunsaulus doesn't have huge power in the big scheme of things. In that case, maybe Kotz should stop talking about her "big picture." The problem is that Fanelli, Kotz, Pluas, Mrs. Sudeikis, Ms. Matusik, Mr. White, and select others truly feel more important by this little position they have gotten and have used and abused the power beyond belief. Does the one parent LSC rep REALLY feel that Ms. Kotz is doing a great job like she read from the prepared letter at the April LSC meeting? Doubtful. This parent has NO IDEA what goes on everyday in the school. She probably came for the Mother's Day breakfast, got her donut and was pleased. The reason these parents are so grateful is because they have never been anything else in their lives. Having this menial position at Gunsaulus has made them feel extremely important so they feel the way to keep their name in it is to kiss the butt of the one in charge - otherwise they will be cut down and thrown out like Fanelli and Kotz do with anyone who goes against them or is smarter than them. Really the one we should be praising here is Renee. You have continued to stand your ground in the face of adversity. They haven't done much to you, but I'm sure they have their thoughts. Gabriella was right there with you until they unjustly dismissed her. For those opposed to the Nazi references made earlier on - isn't that what is happening? Do you see it now? Nothing is thought out or done in a just and moral manner. Is it possibly within the realm of the law? Maybe...but that doesn't make it socially ok.
Summary: Gunsaulus LSC has little power except in the education of our children. Their focus however is not the education of our children but rather fulfilling their lifelong dream of amounting to something of substance and importance and their menial position on the LSC has made them feel as if they are men and women of the year. They have bowed down to Fanelli because without him, they wouldn't have their 15 minutes of fame. I will reiterate - Kotz and Fanelli have a huge problem with anyone who stands up to them or are SMARTER than them. Anyone who questions their schemes or can counteract them is the enemy who they take out - unjustly. Why do you think many of our teachers are suffering? Too smart in comparison to Kotz's Masters in Reading, and Fanelli's photography job.
Summary: Gunsaulus LSC has little power except in the education of our children. Their focus however is not the education of our children but rather fulfilling their lifelong dream of amounting to something of substance and importance and their menial position on the LSC has made them feel as if they are men and women of the year. They have bowed down to Fanelli because without him, they wouldn't have their 15 minutes of fame. I will reiterate - Kotz and Fanelli have a huge problem with anyone who stands up to them or are SMARTER than them. Anyone who questions their schemes or can counteract them is the enemy who they take out - unjustly. Why do you think many of our teachers are suffering? Too smart in comparison to Kotz's Masters in Reading, and Fanelli's photography job.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Bert is a photographer? When does he have time to ply this honest trade if he's at Gunsaulus all the time?
To "Confused":
You don't get where Bert and his sidekick are getting off by creating all this chaos is such a small venue as Gunsaulus? Have you ever heard the expression "a big fish in a small pond"?
Yes, Gunsaulus is insignificant in the big picture (which explains why CPS continues to ignore our pleas for help), but it is a small pond in which these sociopathic goons can get their kicks by hurting people who are trying to make a difference in the lives of the kids who attend an insignificant school in a politically unimportant community.
To "Confused":
You don't get where Bert and his sidekick are getting off by creating all this chaos is such a small venue as Gunsaulus? Have you ever heard the expression "a big fish in a small pond"?
Yes, Gunsaulus is insignificant in the big picture (which explains why CPS continues to ignore our pleas for help), but it is a small pond in which these sociopathic goons can get their kicks by hurting people who are trying to make a difference in the lives of the kids who attend an insignificant school in a politically unimportant community.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
this lady doesnt know waht she is doing, i heard her tell a teacher once , the children dont care about the teachers getting fired but i think she is crazy, you saw all they did Kotz lady, they protested and all that cuz they dont like you or what your doing
Mon May 18, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
it's so sad to see many of our good teachers being fired or leaving. THis school will not be the same anymore. Is she in the process of hiring new staff?
Mon May 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
As I read some of the posts, I am led to believe that all of this is not really about the acquisition of power or the abuse of power, but is about the creation of drama. If one truly wanted power, one would seek it in more appropriate venues. If one wants drama, it can be created anywhere. The question then becomes, which players need the drama most - the administration or the teaching staff?
Mon May 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I was checking out job listings today and I called Municipal Funding. They told me I will not lose my pension as long as I get a city or state job. That is fantastic news. I applied at all the City Colleges of Chicago as well as the Chicago Park District. I was also told that I could apply for jobs in suburbs as well, as long as they are in Illinois, and I will not lose my pension. The reason I am posting this is to let you, the staff that are being let go or have been let go, that there are options for you. The number to Municipal Funding is 1-312-236-4700. The number to the Pension Board is 1-773-553-6604. However we cannot apply to Charter schools since they are evidently an entity to themselves. If you get a job that is not city or state you can roll whatever you have in your pension into an Roth IRA. There is no time limit to apply but you do have to call MF to get the form that is needed. You can withdraw your money from the IRA starting when you are 59 1/2 or any time after that. If you decide to take out your money from your pension you will be charged 30% for taxes and the like. I hope this helps.
Love Ya,
Donna
Love Ya,
Donna
Mon May 18, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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The teachers were perfectly happy being drama free. Have you EVER heard of ANY problems at the school before this year? The new administration brought this drama because of her unfair policies and underhanded acts against staff and faculty. Drama is response...but this is not drama to the people who love Gunsaulus. It is a very sad reality.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To Confused-
I think the use of the word "Drama" trivializes what is going on. If you are not involved at the school, and have not been following the blog since the very beginning in March, Then I can see that it is possible that you might not see the entire picture, and might think it is a tempest in a teapot.
No one wants drama at a school. Not parents. Not Teachers. Not Students. Not Administration. If there is "Drama" at Gunsaulus it is because the school community is resisting the principal's ill conceived changes, and are also not willing to accept bad behavior and fabrications. If there is "Drama" at Gunsaulus, it is because the school community is tired of the LSC not functioning as the original law intended-as a true representation of the school's members, and not the fiefdome of a select few. If there is "Drama" at Gunsaulus, it is because we are not content to remain silent and compliant while the principal and her minions run roughshod over the school community.
As far as the LSC, as another poster pointed out, parents and teachers need to continue to attend LSC meetings, and pay attention to who votes which way. If the LSC reps do not represent you, then you need to consider that when the next elections are held. (I don't know when this is, but am assuming it is 2010, since they were elected in 2008).
As to the discussion of power, I can see the point that "confused" is making. Gunsaulus does seem a rather odd place to be seeking power-location of school, size, etc. I don't even pretend to know what the motivation for seeking absolute power is, or the long term goals of the power seekers. It befuddles me too. Perhaps it is the "big fish small pond" analogy, or perhaps it is something more far reaching. I don't know. I do know that whatever the agendas are, they are causing actions which are injurious to the school, and that is why the parents are reaching out to CPS for help. That is why the teachers are filing greivances. We are not resistant to change, but we are resistant to having our school torn apart and harmed for some secret personal gain.
Lastly, I see no reason to reveal personal details about others. Children, other homes, addresses- these things have no place in this discussion. Please think before you post, and remember that this is a public forum and anyone may view the information, so please let's remember this when posting.
Gale
I think the use of the word "Drama" trivializes what is going on. If you are not involved at the school, and have not been following the blog since the very beginning in March, Then I can see that it is possible that you might not see the entire picture, and might think it is a tempest in a teapot.
No one wants drama at a school. Not parents. Not Teachers. Not Students. Not Administration. If there is "Drama" at Gunsaulus it is because the school community is resisting the principal's ill conceived changes, and are also not willing to accept bad behavior and fabrications. If there is "Drama" at Gunsaulus, it is because the school community is tired of the LSC not functioning as the original law intended-as a true representation of the school's members, and not the fiefdome of a select few. If there is "Drama" at Gunsaulus, it is because we are not content to remain silent and compliant while the principal and her minions run roughshod over the school community.
As far as the LSC, as another poster pointed out, parents and teachers need to continue to attend LSC meetings, and pay attention to who votes which way. If the LSC reps do not represent you, then you need to consider that when the next elections are held. (I don't know when this is, but am assuming it is 2010, since they were elected in 2008).
As to the discussion of power, I can see the point that "confused" is making. Gunsaulus does seem a rather odd place to be seeking power-location of school, size, etc. I don't even pretend to know what the motivation for seeking absolute power is, or the long term goals of the power seekers. It befuddles me too. Perhaps it is the "big fish small pond" analogy, or perhaps it is something more far reaching. I don't know. I do know that whatever the agendas are, they are causing actions which are injurious to the school, and that is why the parents are reaching out to CPS for help. That is why the teachers are filing greivances. We are not resistant to change, but we are resistant to having our school torn apart and harmed for some secret personal gain.
Lastly, I see no reason to reveal personal details about others. Children, other homes, addresses- these things have no place in this discussion. Please think before you post, and remember that this is a public forum and anyone may view the information, so please let's remember this when posting.
Gale
Mon May 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
So....
Fanelli has children at the school.... How old?
So....
Kotz said "The children don't care." That's true. I have
sources saying she said that.
So....
The next LSC election is in 2010. However, the LSC
elect a [hopefully new] chair in July of 2009.
So....
I hope that the "released" teachers get new jobs. I don't want to see them without jobs. They deserve new jobs, and hopefully at somewhere where they are treated the same way as everyone else. Kotz doesn't like any of the teachers hired from previous administrations. She is treating the teachers she hired (aka Dubin, Salas, Portillo, Salinas, Gonzalez, etc.) She prejudges the other teachers even before she gets to talk with them. I see Kotz in the hall, and when a teacher she is "releasing" walks by, she doesn't even look at him/her.
So....
When is Gunsaulus getting a new adminsitration?
Fanelli has children at the school.... How old?
So....
Kotz said "The children don't care." That's true. I have
sources saying she said that.
So....
The next LSC election is in 2010. However, the LSC
elect a [hopefully new] chair in July of 2009.
So....
I hope that the "released" teachers get new jobs. I don't want to see them without jobs. They deserve new jobs, and hopefully at somewhere where they are treated the same way as everyone else. Kotz doesn't like any of the teachers hired from previous administrations. She is treating the teachers she hired (aka Dubin, Salas, Portillo, Salinas, Gonzalez, etc.) She prejudges the other teachers even before she gets to talk with them. I see Kotz in the hall, and when a teacher she is "releasing" walks by, she doesn't even look at him/her.
So....
When is Gunsaulus getting a new adminsitration?
Mon May 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Part of the problem, too, is that the teachers she has hired, as listed above, are also given free reign to speak and treat other teachers however they please. Even the classroom teachers she has hired somehow have been given permission to lord over teachers who are far more experienced and have much to offer. If you disagree with anything or even question one of these people, after the dirty Popeye sneer, you are reported to the principal for being difficult. And considering that one of these teachers had to have a translator to explain a bulletin board schedule and one had to be taught how to use a phone tree, maybe they should be listening to some veterans, too.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I'm soooo ready to be done with all this. I just want to go back to the way things used to be!Gunsaulus used to be a place to be proud of!! I know a kid who's going to be in the academic olympics on wednesday, and he doesn't want to win, because if he does, he'll have to take a picture with Kotz...THATS HOW MUCH SHE AFFECTED US!!!!! MS. Kotz. if you're reading this, please...just let us have our school back. Im tired of this! I thought you would bring change to the school! well you certainly did!! but not the good kind! well, I just want to let you know, you're ruining lives. Not that you'd care about that...but I just want you to understand something, you hiring new teachers, firing the good ones, changing traditions that have been around since before you even had this school anywhere in your mind, that all just puts us down. But just because we're going to a messed up school and we're not AT ALL HAPPY with you, that does not mean we will quit our fight! we will all stick together with Gunsaulus PRIDE!!! that you don't seem to have!! but we do! and even though we're not proud of you, we're proud of ourselves. so just stop, because we will not give up, or loose each other.
Mon May 18, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
hey kotz lady, this is not a suburban school stop with the dances and all that stuff we are not rich people like the saucedo kids we actually have a life outside school so just get out of here
Mon May 18, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I don't understand your post. Our families are on par with Saucedo. Dances??? I just do not get what you are saying. Money has abso. nothing to do with anything going on at Gunsaulus. Please expalin.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 7:31 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Gunsaulus ain't a suburban school
Gunsaulus ain't a suburban school
Tue May 19, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
First!!
To the person who posted about the Academic Olympics, PLEASE tell the students that they should not be worrying about who or who not is in a picture, and using that as a motivation NOT to win. The students should always do their best-for themselves, and for Gunsaulus. Students, if you are still reading the bog, should know that you continue to represent Gunsaulus when you are in competitions. We should continue to be proud of what our school can accomplish, in spite of the actions of the administration. So do your best, and don't worry about whether or not it makes the principal "look good". Your efforts are a credit to you, not the principal.
Also, why compare ourselves to a suburban school? I admit I fail to see the relevance here, but if you can enlighten me, I would appreciate it. Things like Dances don't define socioeconomic class or geography. (My opinion here-I liked the dance. I didn't attend, and my son talked to his male friends the whole time, and did not even try to dance with a girl, but I thought it was a great addition to the student life).
Any time you plan an after school event, there will always be some who can't attend due to other committments or lack of interest, so to pick on one particular event such as a dance, seems rather petty, in my opinion.
Also, we can be mature enough to admit that some additions were well received. The Dance, and the evening assembly were well received by those who attended. This does not make Kotz special, since ANY new, effective principal could come up with these ideas. However, I am not prepared for the cost of these new additions to the school life. Yes, we had some fun events, but at what cost? Losing teachers? Ruining the relationship with the PTO? Constant interrogations of staff and students? Initmidation and retaliation? Abusing powers?
No thanks.
Gale
To the person who posted about the Academic Olympics, PLEASE tell the students that they should not be worrying about who or who not is in a picture, and using that as a motivation NOT to win. The students should always do their best-for themselves, and for Gunsaulus. Students, if you are still reading the bog, should know that you continue to represent Gunsaulus when you are in competitions. We should continue to be proud of what our school can accomplish, in spite of the actions of the administration. So do your best, and don't worry about whether or not it makes the principal "look good". Your efforts are a credit to you, not the principal.
Also, why compare ourselves to a suburban school? I admit I fail to see the relevance here, but if you can enlighten me, I would appreciate it. Things like Dances don't define socioeconomic class or geography. (My opinion here-I liked the dance. I didn't attend, and my son talked to his male friends the whole time, and did not even try to dance with a girl, but I thought it was a great addition to the student life).
Any time you plan an after school event, there will always be some who can't attend due to other committments or lack of interest, so to pick on one particular event such as a dance, seems rather petty, in my opinion.
Also, we can be mature enough to admit that some additions were well received. The Dance, and the evening assembly were well received by those who attended. This does not make Kotz special, since ANY new, effective principal could come up with these ideas. However, I am not prepared for the cost of these new additions to the school life. Yes, we had some fun events, but at what cost? Losing teachers? Ruining the relationship with the PTO? Constant interrogations of staff and students? Initmidation and retaliation? Abusing powers?
No thanks.
Gale
Tue May 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
What was up with the entire Area 10 reject army being at Gunsaulus today? Of course Meyer the beloved mentor was there as well. Obviously they are all in trouble and trying to save face. Keep up the complaints because I know firsthand they are working. I have been talking to some higher ups.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Amy Kotz for President
Stop flaming Miss Amy. Miss Amy done real good with the schools. She done cleaned me up real good after I got out of the pen.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I enjoyed all the fake smiles on the area people this afternoon and Kotz out there with the bus kids acting like she does it every day.They are so full of it and so full of themselves. I also enjoyed the student organization sheets for next year. Let's see, if none of the teachers know what they are doing next year, how can we place students in specific teacher's rooms??? Someone please tell our leader that we cannot organize kids by teacher until we know where the teachers will be. Crazy smart, those people...crazy smart.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM
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Hahaha! Yes those reorganization sheets made me laugh. No one knows what they are teaching, yet we have to fill out a 23094823094 cell spreadsheet on where to place our students? I may be one of the "crazy smarts" but what happened to our old system that worked perfectly fine? OOOOOHHHH I know what it is! Daryl used to take a day or 2 to do it and managed to work it out just fine. Now that we have "Vote for Pedro" in the front office we can get absolutely nothing accomplished. Sorry Kotz - you can do mine for me because I refuse. Nice how the 8th grade teachers got the directive to do these for their students. Yes, please find out what high school your students are going to and who the freshman teachers are and place them in the homeroom which best fits their personality. What a joke. Let's reinvent the wheel again.
Loved the fake smiles and ugly sleeveless shirts roaming around with area 10 leaders today. Amy stood in the hallway watching busers with complete concern. Again, joke. She's usually stuffing her face with donuts in her office around that time.
One final comment - SPANX
Loved the fake smiles and ugly sleeveless shirts roaming around with area 10 leaders today. Amy stood in the hallway watching busers with complete concern. Again, joke. She's usually stuffing her face with donuts in her office around that time.
One final comment - SPANX
Tue May 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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What's with Mesa-Collins and her people at Area 10 visiting our school? Does it mean the Kotz Reign of Terror is going away? Does it mean that people are actually listening?
Yes, I saw her when I left school, but didn't quite get a chance to talk to her. But, I'm pretty sure we'll meet again tomorrow.....
Yes, I saw her when I left school, but didn't quite get a chance to talk to her. But, I'm pretty sure we'll meet again tomorrow.....
Tue May 19, 2009 at 6:39 PM
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I did not see the AIO. I would have waved hi. Just to say hi because she likes to do that. I wonder what they were doing there too. And I so agree...SPANX
Tue May 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM
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area 10 has to do an evaluation of Amy by some day in June. maybe they were doing a walk through like the LSC did before their evaluation. what a joke. sorry I missed them. I like the fake smiles and a good dog and pony show.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 8:09 PM
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"Nice how the 8th grade teachers got the directive to do these for...plase find out what high school your students are going to and who the freshman teachers are and place them in the homeroom which best fits their personality. What a joke." I WISH it was a joke!
THIS Proceedure was invented by the Office of HIGH SCHOOLS. They are forcing 8th grade teachers and principals to do this! It is stupid and useless, AND they never asked 8th grade teachers or principals about it! Now, we were all forced to do it. In 20 years of teaching 8th grade--it is the dumbest thing I have ever had to do. So don't blame your principal--feel sorry that we have to do this and we had no voice in it.
THIS Proceedure was invented by the Office of HIGH SCHOOLS. They are forcing 8th grade teachers and principals to do this! It is stupid and useless, AND they never asked 8th grade teachers or principals about it! Now, we were all forced to do it. In 20 years of teaching 8th grade--it is the dumbest thing I have ever had to do. So don't blame your principal--feel sorry that we have to do this and we had no voice in it.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 8:25 PM
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The 8th grade thing is neither here nor there...the reason we are upset that we have to organize students and we have been told that there will be "movemoent and shuffling" and "take your things home since you don't know where you will be next year" and then we get this. It did not come from the high schools...why would high schools want to know who is teaching someone 1-7 grade?? Doubt any 8th grade teacher has time to it now, in any case.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 8:36 PM
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Ok, we're getting confused and off point. So it sounds like the organizing of 8th graders into their freshman homerooms is an Office of High Schools thing. Yes, we have to organize our current students into 1st-8th grade rooms. The frustration lies in the fact that it looks like we're all going to be shuffled around and we don't know what we're teaching or where we're teaching next year. Just organize your students into groups, don't worry about who the teacher will be.
What is the date we are supposed to have next year's organization by? (staff organization)
When we start complaining about having to place our students for next year, we sound like the complainers some have accused us of being... Stick to the stuff that really matters and proves the need for this blog and the cause.
What is the date we are supposed to have next year's organization by? (staff organization)
When we start complaining about having to place our students for next year, we sound like the complainers some have accused us of being... Stick to the stuff that really matters and proves the need for this blog and the cause.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM
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Agreed...but my spreadsheet wants the name and room number of the teacher I want the child in. That is the point. I am not complaining, just stating a fact. I have no problem arranging kids...at 3 and 6 that should not be done until test scores come in, though. Another issue.
It is just another example of the backwards leadership we have experiemced all year.
It is just another example of the backwards leadership we have experiemced all year.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 9:02 PM
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was mesa collins there to take care some kind of business, I didn't see her!
Tue May 19, 2009 at 9:05 PM
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Maybe she was just there for the daily pizza and donut feast. Ask our teacher rep....sure she has the inside scoop...probably even invited them.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 9:07 PM
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I don't think we are confused or off point. Along with "But.." I also feel that this is backwards leadership. I have no problem making a recommendation for my students placement - isn't that what we have always done? HOWEVER, I don't feel all that other information is necessary or will even be given a second thought when it comes down to the admin slapping te required demographic makeups into certain classes. I also don't feel we can give all information asked of us when NOBODY knows where they will be next year. Many teachers won't be back, so how can I suggest certain students be placed into a new hire's class without even knowing them. The grouping isn't the problem or any of us being "complainers" or "trivial" - the problem again lies in directives being given without clearly being thought out and everyone yet once again being left confused, in a time crunch that isn't necessary, and NOTHING RUNNING SMOOTHLY. Again, why reinvent the wheel? But we just get slapped with the label of being resistent to change, I'm sure...right? That's the easy way out of taking responsibility for any of this garbage for the admin - blame it on us being lazy or resistent, not the fact that it is ridiculous or mess causing.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 9:17 PM
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To be honest I think the teachers at gunsaulus are amazing and talented! how do I know because the students are so smart, bright and intelligent. It's a shame that some of them won't be back next year.WHY FIX SOMETHING KOTZ WHEN IT WAS NEVER BROKEN!
YOU will be losing some great and dedicated teachers. If enough people read this blog you may not have any teachers next year hmmm.
YOU will be losing some great and dedicated teachers. If enough people read this blog you may not have any teachers next year hmmm.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 9:41 PM
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I agree with the above post. Kotz will be losing some valuable teachers and students next year. Gunsaulus will go deeper down the drain. I have been here since kindergarden and never doubted that I was to leave. But since October it began creeping up my mind. Now everyday when I enter the building I pray nothing goes wrong.
Tue May 19, 2009 at 9:46 PM
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Don't let them run you out. Karma takes a while and I want to be there to see it happen.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM
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why won't they help us? How many people does it take to complain? What does Amy Kotz have to do before CPS will come to our aid? Mesa-Collins should lose her job for allowing the demise of Gunsaulus. Maybe with the CPS re-organization, she will be the first to go. Ron Huberman are you listening? You can save yourself an easy $144,000 by getting rid of the deadwood in Area 10. If Mesa-Collins won't do her job, then send her packing. Why pay her to sit on her ass all day while the rest of us suffer under a principal who is clearly not capable of running a school? Parents, students, teachers, all hate her. We all want her gone. If you think Amy and Mesa collins are so great, then take them to central office and have them work their magic there. Leave the running of the school to someone who is competent, caring, and effective.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 3:00 PM
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....and elba pluas needs to go too. We all know that Duncan removed her from being a principal, and told her she would never be a principal again. So now why are we stuck with her? If she is so incompetent that she can't be a principal, why is she allowed to be an AP? Something is fishy here.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM
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your statements above are wrong. Get your facts right please.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:13 PM
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This story about Pluas has been out there and floating through the blog since the beginning. You sound like you know different. Please share. Clear up what you say are not the right facts. She was fired from Davis. No? If nobody tells the true story, the rumors will remain true to those who read them...then they are not rumors. Pretty much everyone I know thinks she was fired by Arne, told she would never be a principal again, went to the area as an MSD and then went to her last school as an AP where she met Kotz. If we are wrong, tell us what's right.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:28 PM
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she was on it (there is your proof) and Arne did not fire her.
Just because it was on this blog much earlier, doesn't mean it was true.
Just part of the gossip and gab at Gunsaulus.
Just because it was on this blog much earlier, doesn't mean it was true.
Just part of the gossip and gab at Gunsaulus.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:31 PM
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so if Pluas was a principal before, then why is she an AP now? Who would go from a higher position to a lower one voluntarily?
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM
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There have been a number of principals who become APs and the other way around. Sometime, being an AP is higher on the pay scale than being a principal. Sometimes schools close and you then become an AP. This is not as unusaul as you think.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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Pluas was removed from Davis. Fact. Was the MSD after that in the area. Fact. You can find this information in the board rulings, and under archived info. Davis is a much higher grade (more kids, more money for the principal) than the school she was formerly an AP AND at Gunsualus. So she did move down the payscale...a lot. This is not just a rumor on the blog. People from Davis that worked with her have confirmed that she was, indeed, removed. They said she went by Ineguez then. So I would think this is pretty unusual. And true.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:53 PM
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And Davis is still very open, so that is not why she is not there any longer.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 4:57 PM
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The list means nothing to us, sweetheart. She was off the list for quite a while. And again, if she is on the list, why is she Amy's lapdog right now? Why not get her own school?? You are obviously a friend and supporter of Kotz and Pluas becasue the minute one of your lies and half truths are exposed you get very condescending and rude. Believe what you want...we will know what we know.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 5:00 PM
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someone tell you the truth and you ignore it. Follow your own statement, but you wont because it is your way or no way. I am not a friend or supporter--just a truth teller.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 5:04 PM
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So it is the truth because YOU say so...if you don't like the g-gang...leave the house. You offer no proof and no backing for what you say. People have looked into this and spoken to people that know the situation. It is not my way or no way, but it is not yours either. So all hail the truth teller...in your own little mind. G-gang...what are you...5??
Wed May 20, 2009 at 5:06 PM
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the words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls.
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM
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Hear my words that I might teach you,
Take my arms that I might reach you.
But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence
Take my arms that I might reach you.
But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence
Wed May 20, 2009 at 6:44 PM
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What do you mean by g-gang? I'm a parent trying to understand what is going on and I don't know what that means.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 6:49 PM
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That blogger likes to call the people from Gunsaulus the G-Gang...as in Gunsaulus gang. They claim to have nothing to do with the school, but know all about it, and say that we lie and make things up about our administration. Again, not a part of the Gunsaulus community but insist on calling us liars and calls themself a "truthteller." Obviously someone who just wants to throw us off focus and insight anger. ignore them.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM
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lies, gossips, false accusations and even paranoia placed on this string for this school. There has even been references to nazis, students and dcfs cases, administrators address--even a threat to kill.
Some really out of control stuff which should embarass the school community-that there are adults associated with this school who write, say and think this stuff. At first, these writers were referred to the desperate housewives, but it got so bad, that some bloggers started to refer this group as the g-gang because they operate like a ghetto gang.
Some really out of control stuff which should embarass the school community-that there are adults associated with this school who write, say and think this stuff. At first, these writers were referred to the desperate housewives, but it got so bad, that some bloggers started to refer this group as the g-gang because they operate like a ghetto gang.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM
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Just because you don't believe it does not make it a lie. There have been NO false accusations. DCFS was brought into the blog because the principal regularly makes false accusations against teachers and parents. Students put addresses on the blog and the threat cam from them. They have since been disciplined. I am not embarrassed but the administration should be. if it were not for their half ass backward dishonest scheming way of running our school, the blog would have been unnecessary. Not sure what you mean by the racist comment "ghetto gang" since Gunsaulus is far from a ghetto school. Oh wait. The principal called us a ghetto school and ghetto moms. That there are adults running the school in this manner and there are adults who attack those who are trying to save it on this blog is just sad. Please, someone from the north side, save Kotz and Pluas! Get them out of the south side ghetto...as they like to call it. They are the "ghetto
gang, I guess.
gang, I guess.
Wed May 20, 2009 at 8:10 PM
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Mesa-Collins turned out to be much calmer and nicer in person then what everyone said. She was checking her phone and her BlackBerry during the entire time I saw her. She looked pretty hard-working. But, I don't know why she doesn't do anything about Gunsaulus. She didn't even ask me "How's school going?"
You know who'll be a better AIO? Cristina Romo. She is very nice, and she works really hard. She is the current Math/Science Coordinator in the city. She is also the Academic Olympics Liason of Area 10. She'll be a good choice.
Anyway, Gunsaulus, and Area 10, lost all competitions today. What a bummer. Sure wish that trophy and banner will be in the main foyer for everyone to see... BUT, that will happen next year.... and there's Academic Bowl next year.... well that's what I heard... and I'll have more experience, so y'all better watch out....
You know who'll be a better AIO? Cristina Romo. She is very nice, and she works really hard. She is the current Math/Science Coordinator in the city. She is also the Academic Olympics Liason of Area 10. She'll be a good choice.
Anyway, Gunsaulus, and Area 10, lost all competitions today. What a bummer. Sure wish that trophy and banner will be in the main foyer for everyone to see... BUT, that will happen next year.... and there's Academic Bowl next year.... well that's what I heard... and I'll have more experience, so y'all better watch out....
Wed May 20, 2009 at 9:45 PM
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To Lies:
Please...we on the North side don't want her here either. I know both the prinicpal and AP and would NEVER want them in my school on the North side or anywhere else!
Please...we on the North side don't want her here either. I know both the prinicpal and AP and would NEVER want them in my school on the North side or anywhere else!
Wed May 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM
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Decided to tune into the blog today to find there is yet another nutcase creating lies and drama on here. I am a teacher at Gunsaulus and can tell you that I am not at all affiliated with a gang or have a vendetta to lie at all - I will attest my life, family, and children to the FACTS put on here about how Kotz and Pluas have ruined many children, and adult lives. They have torn apart what once was a beautiful school. They are the liars, they are the problem. I don't need to say more or fight my case more than this because the truth is so much more powerful than scornful defensive lies by the people who feel the need to defend such horrific, low life people like our current administration. Again, we can all be fairly certain that the protestors and defenders of the administration can be none other than the 2 inhumane losers themselves. Let them talk their nonsense on here and know that they are in the process of getting what's coming to them. You will see, just be patient. Even the students know that Kotz is doing a poor job, and if you don't believe it, read the writing in the second floor bathroom. :) Was it Dubin who said our students couldn't be poets? I beg to differ!
Wed May 20, 2009 at 10:02 PM
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we can be poets! we write really well. we had to do the writing for the state last week and it asked what is one major problem in our school. everyone in our class wrote that the principal is the problem and gave long reasons why. i hope someone more important then dubin reads them because then they will see how much we hate her. kotz asked some kids if they were writing on here cuz she tried to blame teachers for pretending to be students but we told her the truth and we will keep writing cuz we can. even pluas neice wrote how she thinks her aunt and kotz are the big problem then told everyone about it. face it no one likes you guys! get out!
Wed May 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM
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About the writing test...my son told me the question was about a problem the school has. His teacher told them to try and think of something to write about other than the principal. He said some kids wrote about lunchroom food but most wrote about the principal.This should be a powerful message to anyone associated with the school. Does anyone besides the teachers read these? Do they get sent to the board?
Thu May 21, 2009 at 12:15 AM
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Amy and her EFFECTIVE and CONTEMPORARY philosophies would be welcomed on the northside. YOUR LOSS. Losers.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 12:39 AM
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Oh yeah, call DCFS yourselves and find out they have no jurisdiction over CPS, thanks to folks you may have voted for. Watcha gonna do?
Thu May 21, 2009 at 5:39 AM
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Effective? Excuse me me but Lotz has done nothing but ruin the morale of a group of teachers, students, and parents that until this year worked as a cohesive group for the success and education of our Gunsaulus family. She is a derisive force that does nothing but bring a threatening black cloud over the school on a daily basis. What does the jurisdiction of DCFS have to do with anything? Fake calls and false accusations to DCFS are harmful and immoral no matter who has jurisdiction. You sound like a very troubled individual...hopefully NOT an educator OR parent. Your anger and involvement in a situation that you also claim to have no stakeholding interest in is both troubling and unwelcome on our blog. "Watcha gonna do" and "losers." Our students who post on here are better spoken than you. As far as Amy being welcome and it being our loss??? We are fully willing to take that chance...can you use some of your obvious wisdom and get her over to the north side...and get her the hell out of Gunsaulus before we have no chance of recovery from her HORRIBLE leadership? Thanks winner!
Thu May 21, 2009 at 5:43 AM
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I know you meant "K"otz and not "L"otz on the last post...but does Kotz + Loser = Lotz?? I think so!
Thu May 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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For the staff who will be at Gunsaulus next year still:
Let's say Kotz and Pluas are still the administration. Let's think of solutions to the problems. What do we need them to do to fix this? If we keep going the way we are, the entire school will self destruct. We can't go on for this for the next three years. For the students, we have to make things better. Be proactive- make a list- you know they're reading.
I'll start with this:
* Keep staff in the loop about events.
Example: For open house this year, the staff found out about the date/time by reading the newsletter that was going home to parents. We should have been the first to know, told by the administration.
Let's say Kotz and Pluas are still the administration. Let's think of solutions to the problems. What do we need them to do to fix this? If we keep going the way we are, the entire school will self destruct. We can't go on for this for the next three years. For the students, we have to make things better. Be proactive- make a list- you know they're reading.
I'll start with this:
* Keep staff in the loop about events.
Example: For open house this year, the staff found out about the date/time by reading the newsletter that was going home to parents. We should have been the first to know, told by the administration.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 5:38 PM
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I agree. How can next year be better???
*Discipline students that deserve it...and make it consistent
*Don't have secret meetings with students to discuss adult matters or teachers...actually TALK to the teachers
*Don't try to pit teachers and parents against each other
*Don't threaten teachers at meetings...for any reason
*Don't play favorites with the staff
*Visit a classroom ONCE in a while
*Treat the upper grade kids like they are part of the school community. Don't ignore them and act like they don't exist.
*Make a decision and stick with it. Don't "have to check with Elba for every little request...you lose authority when you do that.
*Show the teachers some respect...you might get some back
*Allow the parents of all children access to the school...not just members of the LSC
*Remember that the LSC does not represent the entire community. They represent themselves and have not done what they were elected to do. Aligning yourself exclusively with them has lost you favor...work to correct it.
*Don't disparage your teachers to other principals or those at the board. This, too, has caused irreperable (sp ?) damage to your reputation
*Remember that if you would have done everything you promised to do at the open forum you would have had a wonderful year.
*Do not make any more false accusations against the teachers
*Stop calling the police when it is not necessay...and call them when it is.
*Let teachers know what your plan is. Explain your vision.
*Get the reading teachers out of things they do not belong in...and please ask them to stop threatening teachers and treating them like dirt.
*You have no idea how excited most teachers were to see you come and add wonderful things to our community and instead you tried to dictate unnecessary and derisive changes. You need to build trust with your staff.
All I can think of right now but that was somewhat therapeutic.
*Discipline students that deserve it...and make it consistent
*Don't have secret meetings with students to discuss adult matters or teachers...actually TALK to the teachers
*Don't try to pit teachers and parents against each other
*Don't threaten teachers at meetings...for any reason
*Don't play favorites with the staff
*Visit a classroom ONCE in a while
*Treat the upper grade kids like they are part of the school community. Don't ignore them and act like they don't exist.
*Make a decision and stick with it. Don't "have to check with Elba for every little request...you lose authority when you do that.
*Show the teachers some respect...you might get some back
*Allow the parents of all children access to the school...not just members of the LSC
*Remember that the LSC does not represent the entire community. They represent themselves and have not done what they were elected to do. Aligning yourself exclusively with them has lost you favor...work to correct it.
*Don't disparage your teachers to other principals or those at the board. This, too, has caused irreperable (sp ?) damage to your reputation
*Remember that if you would have done everything you promised to do at the open forum you would have had a wonderful year.
*Do not make any more false accusations against the teachers
*Stop calling the police when it is not necessay...and call them when it is.
*Let teachers know what your plan is. Explain your vision.
*Get the reading teachers out of things they do not belong in...and please ask them to stop threatening teachers and treating them like dirt.
*You have no idea how excited most teachers were to see you come and add wonderful things to our community and instead you tried to dictate unnecessary and derisive changes. You need to build trust with your staff.
All I can think of right now but that was somewhat therapeutic.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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Is it true what I've been hearing? Can Kotz really be so petty? After putting up barriers to the PTO, the PTO still managed to put together a service picnic for children who have performed service to the school. Invitations were sent by the PTO via the teachers' mailboxes. Certain kids never received their invitations, and teachers wondered where they were. Apparently, Kotz has nothing better to do than rifling through teachers' mailboxes (as she apparently once did to neighboring houses) and pulled out certain invitations. God knows what crimes these kids committed to warrent such wrath from this heartless wench.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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I have a teacher friend, LLT at a school in area 10. She heard that Gunsaulas is now going to have to pay $10,000 from our funds for a specific curriculum program that we will ALL have to learn and follow. Can this be done without LSC approval? This is terrible--this is why there is rumor and gossip--no one informs the teachers and it affects us the most! Help!
Thu May 21, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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Those are great suggestions for next year, but here's a better one: Get rid of Kotz & Pluas!!!
Thu May 21, 2009 at 6:57 PM
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To: "We are getting punished by the area".
It is entirely possible that we already have LSC approval to purchase the curriculum. Remember that each month, the LSC changes the SIPAAA as a means to fire people. Perhaps in one of the many revisions, there was a budget item approved for this purpose. I do remember at the April LSC meeting that there were some budget revisions in the school budget to purchase instructional materials. I don't remember what or how much, though. The budget revsions were discussed as necessary to support the SIPAAA revisions.
Also, to "Biased" and others, the service picnic list has been such a nightmare today. Who knew that a kids' picnic could be such a political thing? I am just disgusted at the whole thing. The obstacles, the subterfuge, the behind the scenes machinations. Next year, I am refusing to do the list. Of course, I should not have had to do it this year. The PTO secretary is responsible, but as usual was nowhere to be found when there is work to do.
Gale
It is entirely possible that we already have LSC approval to purchase the curriculum. Remember that each month, the LSC changes the SIPAAA as a means to fire people. Perhaps in one of the many revisions, there was a budget item approved for this purpose. I do remember at the April LSC meeting that there were some budget revisions in the school budget to purchase instructional materials. I don't remember what or how much, though. The budget revsions were discussed as necessary to support the SIPAAA revisions.
Also, to "Biased" and others, the service picnic list has been such a nightmare today. Who knew that a kids' picnic could be such a political thing? I am just disgusted at the whole thing. The obstacles, the subterfuge, the behind the scenes machinations. Next year, I am refusing to do the list. Of course, I should not have had to do it this year. The PTO secretary is responsible, but as usual was nowhere to be found when there is work to do.
Gale
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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First...we never know what programs are coming. The SIPAA has been changed so many times that teachers are completely in the dark. The only people that have this info are Kotz and Finelli. We are not being punished, we are the Area guinea pigs because Kotz is kissing Area ass to keep her job...she is their new "yes" man.
And yes, names were removed from the service picninc list. More importantly, the principal added the names of the children of the LSC members...most of whom offer no services or help any teachers. Some are exactly the opposite of helpful. Being the principal certainly has its perks...and there goes one more tradition at Gunsaulus. Children having to earn a reward instead of just being one of the chosen FEW that the principal likes.
And yes, names were removed from the service picninc list. More importantly, the principal added the names of the children of the LSC members...most of whom offer no services or help any teachers. Some are exactly the opposite of helpful. Being the principal certainly has its perks...and there goes one more tradition at Gunsaulus. Children having to earn a reward instead of just being one of the chosen FEW that the principal likes.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:06 PM
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on the LSC? they are going to allow this expense and program without any teacher input?
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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The PTO secretary (and LSC member) was at school this morning. Perhaps she was turining in her own list. The plot thickens...
Thank you for trying to do something nice for the kids who have worked so hard this year...so sad that even this had to be manipulated and sullied by administration.
Thank you for trying to do something nice for the kids who have worked so hard this year...so sad that even this had to be manipulated and sullied by administration.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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relations office. an lsc cannot just keep chaging the sip--it has legal mandates. parents and teahers have a right to the sip. call them and get one. know and take your rights!
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:11 PM
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I know they approved the $7000 for the writing books that ALL of the teachers said no to. What in God's name is this new $10000 program??? Is this why we have no aides next year?? Disgusting.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:15 PM
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Every day...every single day something underhanded happens at Gunsaulus with administration. Why can't they leave one thing alone? Can the non-Gunsaulus people that read this blog see what is happening? How can this be stopped?
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM
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lesson plan program. All teachers will have to write their lesson plans all the same way. This costs $10,000?
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:22 PM
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I will write everyone's lesson plans the same way for $10,000. I already know what I am doing. Pay me.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:37 PM
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Thank you for the advice to report the LSC problems to LSC relations. I have been reporting and reporting and reporting and reporting problems with the LSC to LSC relations all year. It is obvious to me that the Area 10 LSC Relations rep does not care in the least what our LSC does or does not do. What difference can it make to him if our LSC follows the law or not? He never listens. Never investigates, Never acts.
Although, as another poster pointed out in the first half of this blog, the LSC can do what it wants, and nothing will happen. This was posted by a supporter of the administration, and I felt the poster was bragging that this was the case. In addition, I know that there will be a response coming from someone who will make the claim that CPS does not act because nothing is wrong.
So, I say this to the postiing that I know will come--Well, you found us out. We are all making up these wild, unbelievable stories to amuse ourselves. We are all lazy, and don't want to work. We all enjoy drama, and cultivate it on a daily basis. Guess we can't hide anything from you!
I also have to apologize if this post seems sarcastic and insulting. I am just frustrated with today, and the situation in general. I'm tired of fighting, political back-stabbing, pushing through obstacles and watching my back and my kid's back so that we are not retaliated against. What an exhausting year.
Gale
Although, as another poster pointed out in the first half of this blog, the LSC can do what it wants, and nothing will happen. This was posted by a supporter of the administration, and I felt the poster was bragging that this was the case. In addition, I know that there will be a response coming from someone who will make the claim that CPS does not act because nothing is wrong.
So, I say this to the postiing that I know will come--Well, you found us out. We are all making up these wild, unbelievable stories to amuse ourselves. We are all lazy, and don't want to work. We all enjoy drama, and cultivate it on a daily basis. Guess we can't hide anything from you!
I also have to apologize if this post seems sarcastic and insulting. I am just frustrated with today, and the situation in general. I'm tired of fighting, political back-stabbing, pushing through obstacles and watching my back and my kid's back so that we are not retaliated against. What an exhausting year.
Gale
Thu May 21, 2009 at 8:09 PM
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You have fought very hard for Gunsaulus this year. I am truly sorry that you have been met with indifference even though our concerns are very real. My mind cannot wrap around the fact that the board just lets all this happen. You have gone through all the proper channels and spoken to all the "right" people in the board food chain. You do everything asked of you, even though you are under no obligation. We are all indebted to you and your family. We appreciate you and are sorry for your frustration. Thank you is not enough.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 8:09 PM
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who is the person you are dealing with gale for the lsc? if that person does not help you, go to their boss. get a couple of parents to go with you to show them you all mean business. call and make an appointment--insist to see the boss!
if this is true, no one has the right to spend school money without lsc approval and no one has the right to keep it hidden. speak to the other lsc parent reps and the teacher reps. do the teachers really want this program? do the parents on the lsc really want to spend this kind of money? lscs havce the RIGHT to have a say on school curriculum--it is the law. you must get a few other parents and call them on this. the sip is a public document. the budget is a public document.
if this is true, no one has the right to spend school money without lsc approval and no one has the right to keep it hidden. speak to the other lsc parent reps and the teacher reps. do the teachers really want this program? do the parents on the lsc really want to spend this kind of money? lscs havce the RIGHT to have a say on school curriculum--it is the law. you must get a few other parents and call them on this. the sip is a public document. the budget is a public document.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 8:40 PM
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I think we need to clarify something. I was not making the claim that money is being spent without LSC approval. I don't really think this is the case. The LSC is more than happy to approve all requests from the principal-that is part of the problem.
The LSC allegations are those of violaing the open meetings act, and also abusing their powers. While I don't know the specifics of this particular expenditure, I am faily certain that it would have been approved by the LSC in accordance with the law. My comments were more directed at the LSC abusing power-constantly reinventing the SIPAAA as a means to target staff and programs, getitng involved in day to day operations when they should not be, and not fully evaluating each decision, but rather serving as a rubber stamp for the administration.
Believe me-NOTHING is done without LSC approval and consent under this current administration.
Gale
The LSC allegations are those of violaing the open meetings act, and also abusing their powers. While I don't know the specifics of this particular expenditure, I am faily certain that it would have been approved by the LSC in accordance with the law. My comments were more directed at the LSC abusing power-constantly reinventing the SIPAAA as a means to target staff and programs, getitng involved in day to day operations when they should not be, and not fully evaluating each decision, but rather serving as a rubber stamp for the administration.
Believe me-NOTHING is done without LSC approval and consent under this current administration.
Gale
Thu May 21, 2009 at 8:49 PM
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for your school. poor teachers . Shame on the waste of money. shame on parents that allow this.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM
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Face it people...one teacher rep is uninformed and the other has turned against the teachers and become part of Amy's crew. She is selfishly benefitting from being one of the chosen few. She has told teachers she would not stick her neck out for them, when asked for details, she preaches or goes off in a huff. Students on inschool suspension get to go to her room and "help." She is a major part of our problem. She has never been a team player and I have no idea how she even got elected. She insults people and her voice is the only voice she listens to. She was once a friend but the power of this little LSC dictatorship has gone to her head.
Thu May 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM
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You wrote She has told teachers she would not stick her neck out for them,
If your LSC is functioning correctly, then why does this teacher need to be afraid to stick her neck out? If she advocates for teachers, then isn't that her role on the LSC? Why is that considering sticking out her neck? What is going on with your LSC that a teacher is afraid to speak up?
If your LSC is functioning correctly, then why does this teacher need to be afraid to stick her neck out? If she advocates for teachers, then isn't that her role on the LSC? Why is that considering sticking out her neck? What is going on with your LSC that a teacher is afraid to speak up?
Fri May 22, 2009 at 5:34 AM
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our LSC is NOT functioning correctly. The chair has all the power...the parent reps (who have not been removed) have no idea what they are doing, they follow him blindly. There are secret meetings. The chair has full freedom in the school...every day and is in the school on weekends, too. He is allowed access to EVERYTHING and pretends to be our tech coordinator. He has a CPS badge. The principal does wht HE says...which is probably how she got the job. He manipulated the interview questions and instructed her how to answer them. Anyone he has a vendetta against is somehow punished by administration, and some have been removed. The board knows this and the LSC rep from the board does too. Nobody will step in. As far as that teacher rep, she finally found someone who strokes her huge ego and is riding the wave. She is an embarrassment.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 8:10 AM
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She got elected as so many teachers representatives do because no one else would run. How many schools do not even have two teachers reps or even a union delegate? Apathy is the norm especially with the younger teachers.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Let Principal Kotz do her job
WOW!!! I can't believe the amount of garbage and prejudicial remarks some parents and teachers have dumped on principal Kotz and Mr. Finelli, the LSC chair without much research or knoledge. People please get informed, read, and find andwers on your own. Don't let a bunch of rotten apples spoil the rest.
The area, CPS board, and every single office these parents and teachers continue to critize have done their jobs and have found absolutely NO WRONG doing by principal KOTZ.
Instead of so much critism, negativism and pure venon, I wonder how many of these people have offered something positive to the new administration? People wake up. It's time to get a grip. Let principal KOTZ and the LSC do thier jobs.
The area, CPS board, and every single office these parents and teachers continue to critize have done their jobs and have found absolutely NO WRONG doing by principal KOTZ.
Instead of so much critism, negativism and pure venon, I wonder how many of these people have offered something positive to the new administration? People wake up. It's time to get a grip. Let principal KOTZ and the LSC do thier jobs.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM
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"I wonder how many of these people have offered something positive to the new administration?"
We have ALL offered positive suggestions and she treats us like we are idiots, Mr. Alvarez. YOU GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT. YOU are not here to see what happens day to day. Stop trying to defend something YOU DON'T KNOW. I personally have tried, kindly to make suggestions all year and they are blown off. She has dug herself such a huge ugly hole that she can never possibly climb out of. It never had to go this far.
Also, to the comment about young teachers being "apathetic". Again, get your facts straight. It is the young teachers at our school that go out and do everything above and beyond what has been asked of them. I think it is wise for a young teacher who is still learning the ropes to not jump into an LSC position until they have a better feel for the ins and outs of the school and what it takes to be successful. Wasn't that Amy's problem this year? She came in thinking she knew a LOT more than she did. She didn't observe a single thing and now our school has gone to shit. Excuse my language, but really...give me a break. Kotz is a disaster. Pluas is probably the cause. They need some big help.
We have ALL offered positive suggestions and she treats us like we are idiots, Mr. Alvarez. YOU GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT. YOU are not here to see what happens day to day. Stop trying to defend something YOU DON'T KNOW. I personally have tried, kindly to make suggestions all year and they are blown off. She has dug herself such a huge ugly hole that she can never possibly climb out of. It never had to go this far.
Also, to the comment about young teachers being "apathetic". Again, get your facts straight. It is the young teachers at our school that go out and do everything above and beyond what has been asked of them. I think it is wise for a young teacher who is still learning the ropes to not jump into an LSC position until they have a better feel for the ins and outs of the school and what it takes to be successful. Wasn't that Amy's problem this year? She came in thinking she knew a LOT more than she did. She didn't observe a single thing and now our school has gone to shit. Excuse my language, but really...give me a break. Kotz is a disaster. Pluas is probably the cause. They need some big help.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM
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Who is this Jesus Alvarez who speaks as if he knows what's happening at Gunsaulus? Nothing happening here, so just look away, folks!
Don't anybody else respond to Alvarez. We'll just shun him from polite company.
This latest caper where Kotz invited favored children to the PTO Service Picnic and purged the kids from the wrong side of the tracks, is illustrative of what what we've seen all year, and is fairly well-documented in between all the noise on this blog. Keep reading, Jesus.
The CPS Bureaucrats keep insisting that these episodes are mere "misjudgments" or "mismanagement" due to lack of experience or training, which is easily remedied with a management class or mentoring.
The consistent thread they are missing in Kotz' behavior is a complete lack of character, which cannot be instilled in a management class, and should not be tolerated in leading a public school.
Don't anybody else respond to Alvarez. We'll just shun him from polite company.
This latest caper where Kotz invited favored children to the PTO Service Picnic and purged the kids from the wrong side of the tracks, is illustrative of what what we've seen all year, and is fairly well-documented in between all the noise on this blog. Keep reading, Jesus.
The CPS Bureaucrats keep insisting that these episodes are mere "misjudgments" or "mismanagement" due to lack of experience or training, which is easily remedied with a management class or mentoring.
The consistent thread they are missing in Kotz' behavior is a complete lack of character, which cannot be instilled in a management class, and should not be tolerated in leading a public school.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 10:57 AM
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To: Alvarez,
I was the one who suggested no one respond to you. But the sheer audacity of your post suggesting there's nothing happening at Gunsaulus really ticked me off.
So, I propose a challenge (I'm sorry if some of you see this as a battle of wits with an unarmed man):
I have one question, just one, that if you can respond to this question with a rational answer, you will never hear from Biased Observer again.
If nothing is happening here, how do you explain CPS rescinding numerous disciplinary actions taken by Kotz against teachers?
Stumped you on that one, didn't I? Those accusations made by Kotz lacked substance, just like your flippant posting.
I was the one who suggested no one respond to you. But the sheer audacity of your post suggesting there's nothing happening at Gunsaulus really ticked me off.
So, I propose a challenge (I'm sorry if some of you see this as a battle of wits with an unarmed man):
I have one question, just one, that if you can respond to this question with a rational answer, you will never hear from Biased Observer again.
If nothing is happening here, how do you explain CPS rescinding numerous disciplinary actions taken by Kotz against teachers?
Stumped you on that one, didn't I? Those accusations made by Kotz lacked substance, just like your flippant posting.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 2:51 PM
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Woo. Thankyou PTO for the service picnic. It was the bomb.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM
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Mr. Alvarez-
I don't know who you are or if you are involved in the school or CPS at all, but I have anticipated your comments and already responded to you earlier.
Please see the post above: Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:37 PM
By: Report to LSC Relations? Don't make me laugh!
Gale
I don't know who you are or if you are involved in the school or CPS at all, but I have anticipated your comments and already responded to you earlier.
Please see the post above: Thu May 21, 2009 at 7:37 PM
By: Report to LSC Relations? Don't make me laugh!
Gale
Fri May 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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The students at gunsuluas are excellent writers and they should be proud! ive seen some of their writing and they write better than most high schoolers, and we have gunsaulus teachers to thank for that. DUBIn is a lia* my students can write!!!
Fri May 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM
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1. Thank you PTO, you did another wonderful job! You funded and sponsored evertything! I don't think Kotz did a thing.
The Service Picnic was the best. Students got to go away with free Gunsaulus bags with treats inside.
Kotz did add her "people" to the list. Yes, all the children of the LSC members at school were there, except for one LSC member...
The Service Picnic was the best. Students got to go away with free Gunsaulus bags with treats inside.
Kotz did add her "people" to the list. Yes, all the children of the LSC members at school were there, except for one LSC member...
Fri May 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM
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1. Thank you PTO, you did another wonderful job! You funded and sponsored evertything! I don't think Kotz did a thing.
The Service Picnic was the best. Students got to go away with free Gunsaulus bags with treats inside.
Kotz did add her "people" to the list. Yes, all the children of the LSC members at school were there, except for one LSC member...
The Service Picnic was the best. Students got to go away with free Gunsaulus bags with treats inside.
Kotz did add her "people" to the list. Yes, all the children of the LSC members at school were there, except for one LSC member...
Fri May 22, 2009 at 6:05 PM
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Yes, the service picnic was a success. Thank you to the PTO...it felt like old times...teachers and parents laughing and talking, kids being rewarded for good behavior...like the good old days. Thank you for being the bigger people and allowing the undeserving children that Kotz added to the list for no reason take part in the picnic. They cannot be held to blame. But what a joke to see these kids who have never lifted a finger to help anyone at school reap the benefits of having a parent on the LSC. This was not like old times. The principal rewards the wrong people, children and adults, all the time. Our PTO rocks and if they had been left to carry on their traditions, this would have been another great year at Gunsaulus.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 7:57 PM
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I had this dream that my classmates and I were outside for our physical activity and Kotz was handcuffed and taken to prison. Everyone started sing Na na na na hey hey hey, goodbye. I hope that comes true. For those of you who know who I am, the chances of me coming back next year are lower than ever. So I am going to make the best out of this last month and not let Kotz get between the teachers and students.
Fri May 22, 2009 at 8:19 PM
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To Alias: (correction on above)
What I mean is: No. Don't transfer.
But, that dream... hopefully...
What I mean is: No. Don't transfer.
But, that dream... hopefully...
Fri May 22, 2009 at 9:38 PM
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can someone please explain to me how sipaaa can be a means to fire a teacher? Im completing my student teaching and just wondering if i went into the wrong field. I usually read blogs from different schools to see what the environment is like.
so how can sipaaa cause a teacher to lose their job?
so how can sipaaa cause a teacher to lose their job?
Sat May 23, 2009 at 6:24 AM
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Discretionary teaching positions (state or federal) can be added or cut in the SIPAAA because they have to be funded.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM
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service picnic was so cool! but why were students who did not work all year and even student who threatened our teacher that same week at the picnic. it used to feel more special. but gotta love da pto!! hope they are still around when im in 8th. and kotz is gone!
Sat May 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM
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has the teachers found out what grades they'll be teaching next year ? what teachers are not coming back next year? if its a teacher that my child will be in their class next year, then my child won't be there next year either! grade 8
Sat May 23, 2009 at 10:23 AM
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To concerned:
Don't you get it? Pulling your kid out of Gunsaulus--that's what Kotz wants!!! I understand the temptation to get out of Gunsaulus. Believe me, we're talking about that, too. And I suppose there comes a point when you feel we're beaten and so you surrender and get out.
I'd like to think we're not at that point yet. I'd like to believe that even as indifferent and labyrinthine the CPS bureaucracy is, all of Kotz' wrongdoings, lies, deceits, forgeries, fraudulent accusations, and cover-ups will catch up to her. Or perhaps she'll cross the wrong person somewhere in that bureaucracy sometime down the line. Soon, I hope.
Don't you get it? Pulling your kid out of Gunsaulus--that's what Kotz wants!!! I understand the temptation to get out of Gunsaulus. Believe me, we're talking about that, too. And I suppose there comes a point when you feel we're beaten and so you surrender and get out.
I'd like to think we're not at that point yet. I'd like to believe that even as indifferent and labyrinthine the CPS bureaucracy is, all of Kotz' wrongdoings, lies, deceits, forgeries, fraudulent accusations, and cover-ups will catch up to her. Or perhaps she'll cross the wrong person somewhere in that bureaucracy sometime down the line. Soon, I hope.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM
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the they will be happy to see you go. Pull your child out at 8th grade? shame on you.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM
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Since parents want to be kept up to date on the discipline issues at Gunsaulus you should know another teacher was threatened this week. A 6th grade boy asked another student for a yardstick so he could beat the teacher with it. The boy was at the service picnic yesterday. Consequences? Negative ghostwriter.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 12:14 PM
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I would rather my child spend his last year at an elementary school around positive oeioke rather than have him stay at a school where he is treated like an outsider. If the same teachers won't be there next year then whats the difference in him starting somewhere with a new teacher anyway!
no I am not a problem parent! what i have a problem with is administration coming in like an exterminator cleaning out teachers that are intelligent, dedicated and hard working. If kotz cared anything about our students she would have at least waited to start harrassing the music teacher until after those poor children had graduated! she doesn't care about our children so y would I allow my child to be taught by someone hired by the likes of Kotz.
no I am not a problem parent! what i have a problem with is administration coming in like an exterminator cleaning out teachers that are intelligent, dedicated and hard working. If kotz cared anything about our students she would have at least waited to start harrassing the music teacher until after those poor children had graduated! she doesn't care about our children so y would I allow my child to be taught by someone hired by the likes of Kotz.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 12:15 PM
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Historically the PTO has had a list of service groups whose members were invited to the picnic as a reward for yearlong service. This year was no different. What did change was that the principal revised the notion of what service is. As a result, groups of students were included which were not typically invited in the past.
I was the PTO member who took on the job of creating the list of invited students, and I took my job seriously. However, the principal, being the instructional leader of the school, has the right to add students which she feels should be rewarded for their service. The term "service" I suppose is a flexible one. Perhaps these students did some sort of service which was not apparent to the school at large.
In fact of the student names added, there were 3 students who are children of adults who are members of certain organizations at the school. Although these students performed no service this year, Kotz wanted them included. She even went so far as to try to convince me to include my own child on the list, since I "do so much, and he helps" me. I explained that while I do service for the school, he does not, and as such he was not eligible to attend. (I want my son to understand that rewards are to be earned, not received as a consequence of "who you know")
In addition to including those who were not eligible, “someone” went to great lengths to try to prohibit students on the list from attending. “Someone” went through the teachers’ mailboxes and removed invitations to eligible students, so that they would not be granted admittance to the picnic. How do I know this? I wrote out the invitations myself and put them in the mailboxes myself before leaving the building on Thursday. And yet, when I returned two hours later, the invitations were missing. I can’t say for sure who would stoop so low as to manipulate invitations to a school picnic, and I wonder who would have that kind of warped mind and that kind of time to perform these manipulations. But I have an idea who this could be.
I don't think it's appropriate to get mad at the students themselves. If they are invited, then they would come-who wouldn't want to come to a picnic? There is nothing wrong with their acceptance of the invitation. The question really is whether or not they should have received an invitation in the first place, but that is water under the bridge now, since the picnic has come and gone.
On a personal note, I will say that the students who attended in general behaved well, and they made it a pleasurable experience. It is unfortunate that there was so much political hanky-panky with the list for a children's picnic, but everything is manipulated at our school these days, so this was par for the course.
Since we are speaking of the service picnic, I would like to make a public announcement to the teacher who deliberately chose to send down a student who was not eligible to attend. You know who you are, so I will not mention your name.
You chose to send down a student whom you already knew was not eligible to attend the picnic. Before the picnic you received a written explanation from me as to why this student was not eligible. The explanation was in no way an insult to the child. Not every activity a child does is considered "service".
Despite the fact that you knew this child was not gong to be invited, you sent him down anyway. Not only did you send him down to the picnic, to further your own personal agenda, but you instructed the child to "talk to Ms. Kotz, and don't talk to the PTO" as a means to get approval to attend the picnic. Unfortunately for you, when the child came down, Kotz was not at the picnic, so he did not have your personal advocate to gain him admittance. Now, the onus is on a group of sympathetic mothers to explain to the child why he is not able to attend, and have to send him back to his room.
I wanted to confront you directly when I saw you come to the PTO sponsored event, and fill your plate with PTO sponsored food, and not even say thank you. But a child's picnic is not the place to air out adult grievances. A blog is not really an appropriate place either, but quite frankly, I have no wish to speak to you directly, nor do I feel I can communicate my feelings to you effectively as angry as I am right now.
And so I ask you this-what type of person are you that you would deliberately use a young child as a political pawn to exert your power and flaunt your influence with Kotz? I am sure that you were delighted to think that you would perhaps show the PTO who is boss, by including a child who was not eligible to attend. I am sure that you would have taken delight to know that the PTO moms were uncomfortable in handling this situation in a way that was sensitive to the child's feelings, but still adhering to the original idea of service.
When this poor child had to return to your room, what would you have said to him? I don't know, but I would not be surprised if you took that opportunity to malign the PTO to your students. But in any of your plans and manipulations, did you ever stop to consider the child? What he might be feeling? How this would affect him? How uncomfortable and embarrassed he might be to come done only to be sent back to his room? Did you console him? or just tell him how horrible the PTO is? What kind of person are you? And what kind of teacher does this?
It is clear from this action that you have no respect for the PTO, and feel that we are to be made to be compliant to the principal's whims, and her loose definition of "service". It is clear that you intended to exert your power. It is clear that you have no compassion for the feeling of a little boy in that you forced him to come down and try to gain admittance even though you already KNEW that he was not eligible. Are you proud of yourself?
How do you see this event? As a genuine means to reward children who volunteer their time to better the school, or as a means to make a mockery of the PTO? If you genuinely felt this child should attend, you should have contacted us directly to discuss the situation, rather than putting him in an unfortunate position. But of course, you didn't do that. If the child would have had a genuine reason to attend, he would have already been invited. If there were a question of eligibility, then it could have been easily resolvd. You didn't do that because you were more concerned about furthering your personal agenda.
And why could not understand the nature of school service? You have been at Gunsaulus for a number of years. In fact, longer than I have been there as a parent. You should be able to understand the nature of the event, and also know that the PTO moms have the best of intentions, and want to include every child who deserves to attend.
Do you really think that a group of PTO moms have an agenda to exclude those who should be eligible? As moms, we want to include everyone! However, the service picnic is a reward for service, and also an incentive to encourage other students to become volunteers. Although ineligible students were included at the discretion of the principal, we welcomed them and treated them as we did all the other students. Children are not to be used as political footballs when adults don't know how to act.
And so, "teacher", let me close by saying this. You should be ashamed yourself. Your actions speak very clearly about what type of person you are. One who cares more to be aligned with the principal and exert her sense of power, than she does about her students.
And to Kotz, (and your minions), thank you very much for turning a child's picnic into a political nightmare, a personal agenda, and means to control the PTO. Your flattering words about the PTO at the end of the event meant nothing to me. In fact, I found them insulting, given all that you have done this year to belittle, malign, and impede the PTO.
I am sure many will see this story as petty. But I am outraged that even something so simple as a school picnic can be tainted.
I was the PTO member who took on the job of creating the list of invited students, and I took my job seriously. However, the principal, being the instructional leader of the school, has the right to add students which she feels should be rewarded for their service. The term "service" I suppose is a flexible one. Perhaps these students did some sort of service which was not apparent to the school at large.
In fact of the student names added, there were 3 students who are children of adults who are members of certain organizations at the school. Although these students performed no service this year, Kotz wanted them included. She even went so far as to try to convince me to include my own child on the list, since I "do so much, and he helps" me. I explained that while I do service for the school, he does not, and as such he was not eligible to attend. (I want my son to understand that rewards are to be earned, not received as a consequence of "who you know")
In addition to including those who were not eligible, “someone” went to great lengths to try to prohibit students on the list from attending. “Someone” went through the teachers’ mailboxes and removed invitations to eligible students, so that they would not be granted admittance to the picnic. How do I know this? I wrote out the invitations myself and put them in the mailboxes myself before leaving the building on Thursday. And yet, when I returned two hours later, the invitations were missing. I can’t say for sure who would stoop so low as to manipulate invitations to a school picnic, and I wonder who would have that kind of warped mind and that kind of time to perform these manipulations. But I have an idea who this could be.
I don't think it's appropriate to get mad at the students themselves. If they are invited, then they would come-who wouldn't want to come to a picnic? There is nothing wrong with their acceptance of the invitation. The question really is whether or not they should have received an invitation in the first place, but that is water under the bridge now, since the picnic has come and gone.
On a personal note, I will say that the students who attended in general behaved well, and they made it a pleasurable experience. It is unfortunate that there was so much political hanky-panky with the list for a children's picnic, but everything is manipulated at our school these days, so this was par for the course.
Since we are speaking of the service picnic, I would like to make a public announcement to the teacher who deliberately chose to send down a student who was not eligible to attend. You know who you are, so I will not mention your name.
You chose to send down a student whom you already knew was not eligible to attend the picnic. Before the picnic you received a written explanation from me as to why this student was not eligible. The explanation was in no way an insult to the child. Not every activity a child does is considered "service".
Despite the fact that you knew this child was not gong to be invited, you sent him down anyway. Not only did you send him down to the picnic, to further your own personal agenda, but you instructed the child to "talk to Ms. Kotz, and don't talk to the PTO" as a means to get approval to attend the picnic. Unfortunately for you, when the child came down, Kotz was not at the picnic, so he did not have your personal advocate to gain him admittance. Now, the onus is on a group of sympathetic mothers to explain to the child why he is not able to attend, and have to send him back to his room.
I wanted to confront you directly when I saw you come to the PTO sponsored event, and fill your plate with PTO sponsored food, and not even say thank you. But a child's picnic is not the place to air out adult grievances. A blog is not really an appropriate place either, but quite frankly, I have no wish to speak to you directly, nor do I feel I can communicate my feelings to you effectively as angry as I am right now.
And so I ask you this-what type of person are you that you would deliberately use a young child as a political pawn to exert your power and flaunt your influence with Kotz? I am sure that you were delighted to think that you would perhaps show the PTO who is boss, by including a child who was not eligible to attend. I am sure that you would have taken delight to know that the PTO moms were uncomfortable in handling this situation in a way that was sensitive to the child's feelings, but still adhering to the original idea of service.
When this poor child had to return to your room, what would you have said to him? I don't know, but I would not be surprised if you took that opportunity to malign the PTO to your students. But in any of your plans and manipulations, did you ever stop to consider the child? What he might be feeling? How this would affect him? How uncomfortable and embarrassed he might be to come done only to be sent back to his room? Did you console him? or just tell him how horrible the PTO is? What kind of person are you? And what kind of teacher does this?
It is clear from this action that you have no respect for the PTO, and feel that we are to be made to be compliant to the principal's whims, and her loose definition of "service". It is clear that you intended to exert your power. It is clear that you have no compassion for the feeling of a little boy in that you forced him to come down and try to gain admittance even though you already KNEW that he was not eligible. Are you proud of yourself?
How do you see this event? As a genuine means to reward children who volunteer their time to better the school, or as a means to make a mockery of the PTO? If you genuinely felt this child should attend, you should have contacted us directly to discuss the situation, rather than putting him in an unfortunate position. But of course, you didn't do that. If the child would have had a genuine reason to attend, he would have already been invited. If there were a question of eligibility, then it could have been easily resolvd. You didn't do that because you were more concerned about furthering your personal agenda.
And why could not understand the nature of school service? You have been at Gunsaulus for a number of years. In fact, longer than I have been there as a parent. You should be able to understand the nature of the event, and also know that the PTO moms have the best of intentions, and want to include every child who deserves to attend.
Do you really think that a group of PTO moms have an agenda to exclude those who should be eligible? As moms, we want to include everyone! However, the service picnic is a reward for service, and also an incentive to encourage other students to become volunteers. Although ineligible students were included at the discretion of the principal, we welcomed them and treated them as we did all the other students. Children are not to be used as political footballs when adults don't know how to act.
And so, "teacher", let me close by saying this. You should be ashamed yourself. Your actions speak very clearly about what type of person you are. One who cares more to be aligned with the principal and exert her sense of power, than she does about her students.
And to Kotz, (and your minions), thank you very much for turning a child's picnic into a political nightmare, a personal agenda, and means to control the PTO. Your flattering words about the PTO at the end of the event meant nothing to me. In fact, I found them insulting, given all that you have done this year to belittle, malign, and impede the PTO.
I am sure many will see this story as petty. But I am outraged that even something so simple as a school picnic can be tainted.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
maybe you yourself are part of the problem?? r u on the Kotz, pluas flunkie ship?
Sat May 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
please consider this suggestion for next year or for whoever will be in charge of the service picnic for next year--and to those who read this, it is offered in the most positive spirit for ALL, so please try not to jump allover it or state that I am on one side or the other. I hope you can for those who are the jumpers here.
First, your work and the picnic are very important. No parent of child should have to go through what you describe above.
Next year, before the picnic, create a list of the students who qualify and will be able to go/invited by room. Then share this list with the principal. Get the principal's final approval on the final list. (Yes, I know the principal can still change it.) But you now have a written agreement betwen the PTO and the principal. This will help to solidify your purpose as well as your list and it will let teachers know that this is the final list. Again, just a thought and yes, you do have to share it with the princial first--that is just the way it is. The old principal may have had different ways, but when there is new administration, it is good to do this. And yes, the new principal may add lsc member's children who do not belong on it--fair? No. Right? No. But you have done the right thing from the start. Undeserving students then added to the list is on the principal, NOT on the pto.
First, your work and the picnic are very important. No parent of child should have to go through what you describe above.
Next year, before the picnic, create a list of the students who qualify and will be able to go/invited by room. Then share this list with the principal. Get the principal's final approval on the final list. (Yes, I know the principal can still change it.) But you now have a written agreement betwen the PTO and the principal. This will help to solidify your purpose as well as your list and it will let teachers know that this is the final list. Again, just a thought and yes, you do have to share it with the princial first--that is just the way it is. The old principal may have had different ways, but when there is new administration, it is good to do this. And yes, the new principal may add lsc member's children who do not belong on it--fair? No. Right? No. But you have done the right thing from the start. Undeserving students then added to the list is on the principal, NOT on the pto.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
First, I am the one who wrote the long post on the service picninc. In all the diagloue, i neglected to include my name.
Thank you for your comments, and I do appreciate them. I care little about who is on what "side" when constructive criticism is offerred.
Of course a principal is going to have final approval over any list for any school event. In my rather long post, I did neglect to mention that this list WAS approved by the principal. She then decided to make changes after the list was mutually approved.
Can I accept that the principal would choose to add students who are not "deserving"? Yes I can. In fact, I have not choice not to accept this. If that was all that had happened, I would have been annoyed, but would certainly would not been complaining about it in a blog.
However, add to that deliberate efforts to bar deserving children. Add to that the sort of teacher who acts as described above.
I know that I have done the right thing from the start, and that the principal may choose not to do the right thing. I know that as a PTO member, if the principal alters an event, that I have to accept it. This year, I and the PTO board have become quite adept at accepting things that are not "right".
I thank you for your suggestions. I am always open to improving things for this year and next.
Gale
Thank you for your comments, and I do appreciate them. I care little about who is on what "side" when constructive criticism is offerred.
Of course a principal is going to have final approval over any list for any school event. In my rather long post, I did neglect to mention that this list WAS approved by the principal. She then decided to make changes after the list was mutually approved.
Can I accept that the principal would choose to add students who are not "deserving"? Yes I can. In fact, I have not choice not to accept this. If that was all that had happened, I would have been annoyed, but would certainly would not been complaining about it in a blog.
However, add to that deliberate efforts to bar deserving children. Add to that the sort of teacher who acts as described above.
I know that I have done the right thing from the start, and that the principal may choose not to do the right thing. I know that as a PTO member, if the principal alters an event, that I have to accept it. This year, I and the PTO board have become quite adept at accepting things that are not "right".
I thank you for your suggestions. I am always open to improving things for this year and next.
Gale
Sat May 23, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I'm glad Gale aired it out in these last few posts. Though a bit lengthy, there was another matter she left out thinking it was too personal and petty. Gale doesn't want this to be about her, but I feel this needs to be said.
Gale has been enduring some wise-cracks from various corners because she is not volunteering to work the Fun Fair next week. Ironically, she heard most of these cracks the last few days while working like a dog with the PTO putting on the Service Picnic. That job was even more challenging as she had to continually counteract Kotz, who was working just as doggedly to muck things up.
But about this Fun Fair business, let it be known that the PTO submitted two proposals to put on the Fun Fair, and was twice rebuffed by the Principal and the LSC. Apparently, the PTO wasn't trustworthy enough to run the Fun Fair. Of course, this happened a few months ago while Gale and the PTO was being investigated by the Inspector General because Kotz & Fanelli accused them of malfeasance of PTO funds.
After being falsely accused (subsequently cleared by the Inspector General), and having the PTO Fun Fair proposals rejected twice, now people are calling Gale petty for not volunteering to help with Kotz' Fun Fair.
For the sake of the kids, I hope Kotz can pull it off and have a good Fun Fair. But apparently, now they're so desparate for parent volunteers, they need Gale's help.
Hmmm...what a tangled web we weave...
Gale has been enduring some wise-cracks from various corners because she is not volunteering to work the Fun Fair next week. Ironically, she heard most of these cracks the last few days while working like a dog with the PTO putting on the Service Picnic. That job was even more challenging as she had to continually counteract Kotz, who was working just as doggedly to muck things up.
But about this Fun Fair business, let it be known that the PTO submitted two proposals to put on the Fun Fair, and was twice rebuffed by the Principal and the LSC. Apparently, the PTO wasn't trustworthy enough to run the Fun Fair. Of course, this happened a few months ago while Gale and the PTO was being investigated by the Inspector General because Kotz & Fanelli accused them of malfeasance of PTO funds.
After being falsely accused (subsequently cleared by the Inspector General), and having the PTO Fun Fair proposals rejected twice, now people are calling Gale petty for not volunteering to help with Kotz' Fun Fair.
For the sake of the kids, I hope Kotz can pull it off and have a good Fun Fair. But apparently, now they're so desparate for parent volunteers, they need Gale's help.
Hmmm...what a tangled web we weave...
Sat May 23, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
how ungrateful can some people be? Gale, you have done so much ALL YEAR for the school. For anyone to criticize you for not doing enough shows how ignorant they are. Regardless of whatever has happened with the PTO and the administration this year, you are only one person and no one has the right to say you have not volunteered enough this year. The wisecracks say much more about the 'adults' making them than they say about you.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
your integrity, they create a smear campaign with your name on it. typical CPS strategy.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
And if you want real change to occur, then the thing to do is to ride out the storm and not leave. It takes a lot of guts.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Who is this ignorant teacher? If you can't name a name, can you please tell me what grade the teacher teaches, or what room?
Sat May 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
what exactly is the service picnic and why all the uproar about a picnic?
Sat May 23, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Gale has too much class to say the teacher's name and so do I but I have slightly less class than Gale and the teacher is one of the teacher reps on the LSC and she ain't no doctor.
She is totally power tripping right now. Head so far up Amy's ass that...well, you know the rest
She is totally power tripping right now. Head so far up Amy's ass that...well, you know the rest
Sat May 23, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Service picninc is a tradition at Gunsaulus that rewards the students that have been in "service" at school. Lunchroom helpers, kindergarden room helpers, patrol, Junior Beta members, student council, door holders, etc. The PTO sponsors the picninc...grill hot dogs and gift each student with a bag of treats. The kids also get to have an extended "lunch"...they play on the playground, or play football, etc. It really celebrates their efforts at school to help others. And this year, students who have parents that support the principal and the LSC chairs kids got to go...whether they helped anyone or not. They were added by the principal. While others who really had been in service all year were mysteriously removed from the list by the principal. Nothing can be left alone. No traditions can go untouched. She is just horrible.
Sat May 23, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I clearly see who this teacher is. And yes, she can be mean. Only two teacher reps on the LSC, and only one has a doctor degree. Well, I don't know why she wants to patch up her relationship with Kotz. She is said that she will not be returning next year. So, why bother?
Sun May 24, 2009 at 7:20 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Oh my goodness then if that's the way it happened that makes me want to cry. How can people who supports the principal and lsc and their families get to come. what about all the poor children who's good deeds went unnoticed. If that's the case then it should have been a picnic for the whole school. This is so unfair. Imagine how the students who were not selected must have felt. I see why people affected by this school is so angry. You never mistreat children or play favorites with them because you will be humbled!!
Sun May 24, 2009 at 7:42 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You are so correct why use a child to try and display your political musche and embarrass him in such a way that it is degraging and demeaning to his soul. To the teacher if this is true you ought to be ashamed of yourself. A sincere teacher would never do this. compassionate teachers treat children like they would their own. Would you have encouraged your own child to endure such humiliation? IF so what a sad day this world has come to when people use children for their own selfish gains. I applaude the pto member for speaking out!!! What kind of people are these?
Sun May 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Now we're hearing stories of bad behavior by teachers and others at Gunsaulus, like this teacher/LSC member who set up a child for embarrasment. Clearly, leadership like Kotz & Fanelli brings out the worst in others, particularly those who align themselves with them.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
This teacher rep used to be one of the nicest people. Now, she just gives me another reason to hate Gunsaulus.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes this is sad. But this is just one of the many sad things that has happened this year. These things are the reason we are writing this blog, contacting the board, and trying to get people to take us seriously. The children of Gunsaulus have been at the bottom of a big dirty pile of politics and bad leadership. Some parents and most teachers have been foghting tirelessly for someone to listen and do something about the horrible things that have happened this year. The frustration level is indescribable. We were blessed with children who loved school, wanted to learn, wanted to compete, and wanted to be there every day. We were blessed with a diverse staff that truly loved the kids. Who did things wothout being asked, took part in every possible activity, sponsored activities, and played because they knew they were part of a wonderful team. We had parents that gave tirelessly of their time and money. They were actively involved in their children's education. Parents and teachers were friends. We no longer have any of this. No teacher has been written up for over 20 years. Police were never called to the school. Discipline problems were controlled and dealt with quickly and professionally. IEP's were followed to the letter, and teachers were not threatened or pitted against each other. People from other schools may read this and think that no school is or was ever that great. But Gunsaulus truly was. It really was one of those schools that people did not leave, they retired from there. Why is the board letting this happen? If this is happening at Gunsaulus, what is happening at the schools that were not as lucky as we were? Isabel Mesa-Collins should not be an AIO if this is okay inher area. Amy Kotz should not be a principal if she can make all of this happen and still have a smile on her face at the school's demise. Reid Finelli should not be on an LSC if he uses it as some pathetic power trip with no concern for any parents, children, or teachers. That teacher rep (who calls herself a woman of God) should just be ashamed and start praying for forgiveness.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
and to think I wanted to leave my current school and come and teach here. after reading this blog I believe this would be a big mistake. anyone want to answer this: How would she treat a teacher that she hired? If i was hired would I endure this same harrassment?
Mon May 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You would be one of her hires so she would be nice to you. If you tried to be friends with any of the vets, she would not be nice to you. If you questioned any decisions, she would not be nice to you. Reid Finelli would also be very nice to you. He would tell you everything he could do for you if you stayed on the "right"side. I would say unless your current principal stabs you in the leg every day at the same time, stay right where you are. you will miss out on some great kids and parents, but we aren't allowed to enjoy the kids and most parents are not allowed access to the teachers anymore so....
Mon May 25, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I think i would rather not even apply with so much going on at this school. I don't think I could work in a environment as such!
does anyone know of any schools that will have open positions in september???
does anyone know of any schools that will have open positions in september???
Mon May 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To 12:31 this is sad but true advice-it happened at my school-the vets, older teachers who fought with a maniac principal who also had his old boy network on the LSC would tell his new hirees not to talk to the "troublemakers" and guess what they listened....now he is gone and they are still as befuddled as the day they walked through the doors....
Mon May 25, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
that is so wrong to do to people. It is my belief that one should go into any environment open minded and give people the benefit of the doubt. Just because you don't like a person does not mean that I won't like them either. If someone told me not to talk to certain people, I would be leary of them!
Mon May 25, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Has KOtz hired any new staff? if so how do they act toward veteran or teachers that were there before hand in general?
Mon May 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
EVERY person that Kotz has hired treats the old Gunsaulus people like dirt. They are nasty people. They talk down to everyone and if you disagree with them or they don't like your tone, they run right to the principal and tattle like 2 year olds. They lord over other teachers and know they have the upper hand. Clearly, the Kotz hires have the upper hand. Even though some are challenged to understand grade level differences, lesson planning, curriculum mapping, and even the proper use of a phone tree, they are the new "go-to"people that we all have to listen to. She hires people just like herself...not quite human. Thre is one of these people at my grade level and she has no clue what she is doing...yet considered an expert by the principal.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
OMG sounds just like my school only we lucked out-our inept, amoral principal retired but he left these fools and guess what-no one else wants them-I do not even think they could complete an interview because they make no sense- they fly aound looking for or creating drama ----we are stuck with them forever-or until retirement or until a new principal does the paperwork and then it is adios chicas
Mon May 25, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I can't believe you are still going on about this school. It's hiring season, find a new f***ing job! Oh, I know you have been there so long and you are connected to the children and community. Big f***ing deal. Land a new job and make new connections. If you have a bad taste in your mouth every time you go into work, why go there? It is, what it is. Kotz is the Principal and she will be there at least 3 more years. Russo you need to put Gunsaulus 2.0 to rest. Sorry, the truth hurts.
PEACE in the Middle East! I am outy!
PEACE in the Middle East! I am outy!
Mon May 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Do U know how hard it is to find a job in the field of teaching with so many teachers being let go due to turn around schools and inept principals like the one we have now!! You seem to not have a clue. THe way you articulate I doubt if you went past high school. If you don't like the discussion, use your first amendment and find another blog to visit until you find one that suits your intelligence probably somewhere in the gutter!!!!!! WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT AND APPARENTLY YOU STILL FIND IT INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS BLOG DIDN'T FIND YOU, YOU FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Mon May 25, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To "still talking about it" you go find a f***ing job in this profession at this time. Why don't you get a f***ing life while you are at it. What a sad and pathetic little uneducated sorry waste of a person you are. If you don't like the conversation, leave the f***ing blog or find another subject. Leave us the f*** alone.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To Hey and Re:
Why do you let those comments ruin your holiday??? People need to do like Guy did in 1989 and "Just Chill".
Why do you let those comments ruin your holiday??? People need to do like Guy did in 1989 and "Just Chill".
Mon May 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
So, which teacher rep exactly told a student to go to the service picnic? was it esco, or canizales?
Mon May 25, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
It was esco and canizales. They are in cahootz with Kotz. DOn't tell anyone I told you though.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
She does not know what a real career is. It seems to me that all she does is probably flip burgers at mcdonald's and as far as her intellect the farthest she went in school is listening to wgci.(not that there is anything wrong with that station) because all of her vocabulary is just quoting songs from popular R&b groups from the 80's and 90's. She is so pathetic she probably is kissing Kotz a** trying to get a job as a teachers aide or a custodian. but unless she's bilingual which I doubt that she might ass find another A** to Kiss to get a job!!!! SO hey we'll just ignore her elementary comments from now on.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
what grade does mrs esco teach? that name sounds so familiar
is canizales leaving next year?
is canizales leaving next year?
Mon May 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I have this great website for teachers and paraprofessionals to check out.
www.k12jobspot.com
Hope this helps someone.
Love Ya,
Donna
www.k12jobspot.com
Hope this helps someone.
Love Ya,
Donna
Mon May 25, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Ieptitude begets ineptitude
Troublemakers or people with ethics?
Please state your schools so we know NOT to apply there--PLEASE!
Troublemakers or people with ethics?
Please state your schools so we know NOT to apply there--PLEASE!
Mon May 25, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
If an LSC teacher is not representing the staff is there a procedure to remove them or are you stuck until the next election?
Mon May 25, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
you are stuck with them until next election, unless they can be persuaded to resign.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Well. Canizales is said to leave next year. That means a vacant spot in the LSC.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
of it is next year, she will serve out the term anyway.
resignation now!
resignation now!
Mon May 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
All this talk of teachers looking to get out of Gunsaulus--I can't say I blame them--sends a chill down my spine. What about us parents? It's not so easy for us to move our kids around. There's not that many selective enrollment schools on the southwest side. Those teachers being harassed and persecuted by Bert & Friend and their hirelings are all we have. They're what makes us keep bringing our kids to Gunsaulus. Without these teachers, what do we have left? The ineptitude of Kotz and her unprofessional, petty squad!
Mon May 25, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
...the teachers and staff who have already been fired and being let go at the end of the year.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Kotz has been encouraging all teachers that were there before she came to go. Threatening meetings...pack your things because you "may" not be in your room, grade level etc. next year. Mysterious changes on a weekly basis to the SIPAA that only a chosen few are privy to. Teachers never know what will happen in the next hour, let alone the next week. We are totally flappin in the breeze waiting to see what happens next. We are professionals. Most teachers at Gunsaulus have well past their master's degrees in education. We are all highly qualified. And this is how we are treated? No one else in any other profession would stand for this either. The parents should have fought harder. Not just the 10-12 who have been, thankfully, backing the teachers all year, but ALL the parents who have no problem voicing thier opinion to the teachers and each other about Kotz. If it takes a village to raise your children, the village has been burned to the ground by someone who should have been gone by November. By the way, she wants your kids out too. Regardless of what she says, she wants a neighborhood school. She is lying to all of you.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
funfair has enough parents to help,if people do not want to help that is ok but do not go around saying we are upset at you not wanting to help.you act like you are so special and that we would not manage with out your help.just stay out of the funfair and let the children have there fun.remember p.t.o. has nothing to do with the funfair, yes it would be nice if you would help but you decided not to it is ok so please leave it alone already.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Don't think anyone was talking about Fun Fair. Yes there are plenty of people to help, but it won't be the same. Setting it all up...outside...in one day? Good luck. The fact that the teachers will not even be able to enjoy it because the reading teachers and Judi Esco (yes, there is that name again) think it is a good idea to have a literature day on the same day as Fun Fair. I am sure the students will be really into literature on that day. I will go in and help because I believe that it is a tradition that should not be taken away from the kids. But to think it will go as smoothly as it has in years past is a daydream. The only people that think they are too special for anything at that school are the administration and their pathetic little followers who care about nothing but themselves and their names in that joke of a monthly (fiction!) newsletter.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Was this new Fun Fair approved by the LSC? Wasn't that part of the original problem with the PTO Fun Fair? The LSC would not approve any fundraisers sponsored by the PTO until ??? the accounts were audited. Even though the LSC had never approved the Fun Fair in the past, this year the chair felt obligated to demand the Fun Fair have LSC approval.
Did the LSC VOTE to approve this non-PTO Fun Fair?
Did the LSC VOTE to approve this non-PTO Fun Fair?
Mon May 25, 2009 at 10:15 PM
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oh now you want to help.why so you can talk about it badly like you do everything else.you keep saying it is not going to work ,so why be there your probably the one that will put salt on it. and try to ruin it.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 11:10 PM
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"So you can talk about it badly like you do everything else..."
Everything? You know everything I talk about? First I don't talk about things badly...I may talk about negative things negatively, but I don't talk badly. You seem to have a problem with talking badly. No parent would try and ruin anything for their children. As far as putting salt on it...the principal has been kicking enough salt around that school all year. She does not need anyone's help in ruining anything. People will clean up her mess again and she will take credit for having a fun fair...a decades long tradition. Just another ride on the always thrilling Amy Kotz ride to self-destruction.
Everything? You know everything I talk about? First I don't talk about things badly...I may talk about negative things negatively, but I don't talk badly. You seem to have a problem with talking badly. No parent would try and ruin anything for their children. As far as putting salt on it...the principal has been kicking enough salt around that school all year. She does not need anyone's help in ruining anything. People will clean up her mess again and she will take credit for having a fun fair...a decades long tradition. Just another ride on the always thrilling Amy Kotz ride to self-destruction.
Mon May 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM
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teachers do you know that you have to park somewhere else on fun fair day? it will be in the teachers prking lot, so you better find another place to park and good luck becuz everything is zoned parking around the school and the police will tag your car if you park next to the school. Ms. Kotz wants u to have trouble parking and wants to punish u.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 3:30 AM
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If people are going to be at Wednesday's Board of Education meeting, and trying to speak out on this stuff, could you also e-mail me your prepared remarks (Csubsance @aol.com) so that the coverage is possible. We are on deadline for our final print edition of the school year (going to press next Monday) and have faced dozens of important stories each Board of Education meeting.
We're trying to figure out how to cover them on first report, then dig deeper for the longer analyses. For example (on the analysis part) we're still waiting for someone to bring us the tapes and lesson plans where "New Leaders for New Schools" aspirants are coached on how to harass veteran teachers and bring in (and "mentor") FNGs who are too frightened to say anything -- no matter how enormous the exploitation.
When you smell this much merde, somewhere around there is a cesspool. New Leaders and TFA?
We're trying to figure out how to cover them on first report, then dig deeper for the longer analyses. For example (on the analysis part) we're still waiting for someone to bring us the tapes and lesson plans where "New Leaders for New Schools" aspirants are coached on how to harass veteran teachers and bring in (and "mentor") FNGs who are too frightened to say anything -- no matter how enormous the exploitation.
When you smell this much merde, somewhere around there is a cesspool. New Leaders and TFA?
Tue May 26, 2009 at 5:43 AM
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Of course I did not know that I could not park at school on Friday. How do you know this? Will she call the police on all of our cars again??? I was told Fun Fair would be on the north side of the school near the playground. There is enough room around the school so that they do not have to use the teacher parking lot. More bad planning at the expense of the teachers...but then again, we don't really matter in the new world order of Amy Kotz and Gunsaulus Academy. Another great start to what I am sure will be another great week.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To: "Whatever"
You state, "do not go around saying we are upset at you (the PTO)not wanting to help"...with the Fun Fair.
But the point of my earlier post was just that: Your stooges were harassing Gale (and I presume other PTO board members) because they were not volunteering. Kotz and the LSC made it very clear that they did not need the PTO's help. And really, the school does not revolve around Gale, the PTO, or anyone else but Kotz & Fanelli.
So, I'm sure Kotz will get plenty of other volunteers and can pull off a good Fun Fair, and as I said before, I hope she does, for the sake of the kids.
You state, "do not go around saying we are upset at you (the PTO)not wanting to help"...with the Fun Fair.
But the point of my earlier post was just that: Your stooges were harassing Gale (and I presume other PTO board members) because they were not volunteering. Kotz and the LSC made it very clear that they did not need the PTO's help. And really, the school does not revolve around Gale, the PTO, or anyone else but Kotz & Fanelli.
So, I'm sure Kotz will get plenty of other volunteers and can pull off a good Fun Fair, and as I said before, I hope she does, for the sake of the kids.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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I AM SO TIRED OF KOTZ AND HER CREW. EVERYONE HATES THEM. PLEASE JUST LEAVE. EVERYONE KEEP CALLING THE BOARD. WHEN THEY GET TIRED OF THE CALLS MAYBE THAN THEY WILL LISTEN. LET'S START BY GETTING SOME RESULTS. I KNEW ESCO COULDN'T BE TRUSTED. SHE WALKS AROUND THE SCHOOL LIKE SHE IS HOLIER THAN THOU. PLEASE, CHURCH PEOPLE ARE SNAKES TOO. SHE NEEDS TO TAKE KOTZ AND THE REST OF LSC MEMBERS TO CHURCH SO THEY ALL CAN WORSHIP THE DEVIL WITH HER. WATCH OYUR BACKS, IBET COME SEPTEMBER MORE CHANGES ARE COMING. DO OYU THINK SHE WILL SEPERATE THE SCHOOL BY ETHNIC GROUPS???
GO TO HELL LSC AND KOTZ!! AND LEAVE GALE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIGNED BY: TIRED OF THEIR CRAP
GO TO HELL LSC AND KOTZ!! AND LEAVE GALE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIGNED BY: TIRED OF THEIR CRAP
Tue May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
THIS WAR HERE AT GUNSAULUS IS WORST THAN BEING IN IRAQ. HOW DID PLUAS GET THIS JOB AGAIN. CAN WE STILL CALL ARNE ON THEM????
Tue May 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
LEAVE GALE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KOTZ NEEDS TO GROW UP. LIFE IS TOO SHORT FOR THIS SH*T!!
I GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE BOARD. GET KOTZ AND HER CREW THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIGNED BY ; I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT
I GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE BOARD. GET KOTZ AND HER CREW THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIGNED BY ; I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT
Tue May 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM
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Now, after readingall of this blog. There is one thing that is disturbing. Ain't no way in living hell a student is hitting and spitting in kindergarten and nothing is being done. What school were you at.? Not Gunsaulus. Stop lying on here and babies. And this is to Kris. I have a niece and a nephew in 110 and has never seen anything like this and I am there like three time out of the week. Every child hits. SO STOP LYING ON BABIES AND IT IS A COUPLE OF KIDS THAT ARE BUSY IN THAT CLASS. I HOPE MRS. WINZCO SEES THIS. BECAUSE THIS IS A LIE
Tue May 26, 2009 at 2:02 PM
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If you read the blog on 'news from the rest of the country' on this site, it's interesting that most of these new principals from these "new leader programs" are not having their contracts renewed. They are not performing as well as principals who come up through the ranks do. Ms kotz is showing us all some of the reasons why that is. These programs must lean heavily toward the political and light on ethics.Where is the leadership that she was supposedly trained in? Is she just a poor example of the program? Is part of the training to divide the school? I would rather have a tough but fair leader than a leader who has no credibility.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
REMEMBER WHEN KOTZ USED TO SPEAK TO EVERY PARENT, AND STUDENT? REMEMBER WHEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, SHE USED TOO STAND OUTSIDE AND GREET EVERYONE? REMEMBER WHEN SHE WAS NICE? REMEMBER WHEN SHE PRETENDED THAT SHE CARED FOR ALL CHILDREN? WHAT HAPPENED?
WAS SHE BEING PHONY TO JUST TO GET THE FEEL OF THE SCHOOL?
BY: I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO HER
WAS SHE BEING PHONY TO JUST TO GET THE FEEL OF THE SCHOOL?
BY: I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO HER
Tue May 26, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
i never mentioned gale , but if the shoe fits wear it. and about that remark about kolts i do not think there is much that can be done at lease not now. but for the childrens sake they want the funfair and were giving them what they want. so please stop trying to make things worse
Tue May 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM
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Go back and read Kris's post. She did not say she was from Gunsaulus, and she probably is from another school. Looks like you could use some help from the "literacy" coach
Tue May 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Please don't think nothing can be done. We have to stand up for our children any way we can. If we see evil and say nothing we are guilty also. Lets all work for the good of the kids and not try to fight with each other.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"Our lives begin to end
the day we become silent
about things that matter."
The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
the day we become silent
about things that matter."
The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
what was said in the teachers meeting today? anything interesting, my son wanted to see his teacher he was told theyre all in a meeting anybody get their walking papers?
Tue May 26, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Nobody was given their walking papers but it was not pleasant. We were told we are not doing enough for our kids and we were told several times that we must remember we are there for the children. Just another example of the pot calling the kettle. Somehow everything she messes up, she comes back around and calls it our fault. Still has not told anyone what they will be doing next year or where they will be. Then got angry when the coach of the basketball team refused to volunteer to organize the sports banquet. Hello! Not only did you fire her but you have treated her like dirt and bogusly written her up several times. The poor thing needs to spend her time finding a job, not doing you a favor. Please don't say she should do it for the kids...she has done above and beyond for the kids this year...this is asking too much. It was nice to see parents working all day organizing things for the Fun Fair. I know the kids will love it...I just wish she had not tainted it with her crap with the PTO who ALWAYS rock the Fun Fair.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
So Amy is boo-hooing about no volunteer to organize the after school sports? Whydoesn't she call upon her massive network of teachers and parents who are in support of her? we always hear about how everyone loves her and supports her except for the few bad apple parents. So where are these people now? Let them organize the sports banquet
Tue May 26, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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EXCELLENT TEACHERS OF GUNSAULUS YOU ARE THE BEST TEACHERS! i WILL HATE TO SEE THE DAY WHEN i WALK IN THE BUILDING AND DON'T SEE YOUR BEAUTIFUL SMILES PLEASE DON'T LEAVE. WHAT IF YOU GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL AND THE ATMOSPHERE IS THE SAME. PLEASE TRY AND STICK IT OUT WITH PARENTS AND STUDENTS WHO LOVE AND CARE ABOUT YOU.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
'Still has not told anyone what they will be doing next year or where they will be. ' File a grievance. You should know by now.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
were you also told today to clean out your classrooms? if so what's the motive behind that?
Tue May 26, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
if Kotz is reorganizing the school then, she should already have an idea of where and what you are going to teach! Thats the same as telling your tenants to sit your belongings outside but I don't know what ill do with you but just get out! Kotz is a mean one.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You're appealing to teachers to stick it out at Gunsaulus. I wish they would, too, difficult as that is. But remember, many of them don't have that option as Kotz has fired them. Oops, excuse me...she has not renewed their contracts because they are "not a good fit."
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
How Horrible that when these new principals take over and fire teachers their excuse is your'e not a good fit. if I someone paid me 100dollars every time i heard that I would take a vacation.They were a perfect fit until new administration came along and started muscling the teachers out of their jobs. If you have a voice and not afraid to be heard then you are not a good fit. I will miss the teachers dearly!!!
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
If I was Kotz I would feel so uncomfortable around people who don't like me, How does she do it? I would just pack my bags and leave. But i guess when you are not human it doesn't matter. Oh well, so much for wishful thinking.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
what about teachers who are tenured, can she decide that she doesn't want to renew their contracts? I thought tenured teachers were protected?
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Kotz stop harrassing these wonderful teachers. If you cared anything about our children, you wouldn't treat the teachers like you do knowing the affect it has on them. Some of these teachers are like family to these kids, and you are just going to snatch them away and replace them with people that have no clue or care about these children. where is the compassion?
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
As per contract, school tentative organizations MUST be given out by June 1. If you have not yet received your organizations, you should file a grievance as the above poster mentioned.
Teachers, did you receive your tentative organizations before you left for the holiday weekend? Just curious as to how savvy Kotz is about little things like this.
Teachers, did you receive your tentative organizations before you left for the holiday weekend? Just curious as to how savvy Kotz is about little things like this.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Gunsaulus is currently, as you may recall, in an "educational crisis." Have we been in this crisis last year? NO. This crisis ONLY happened when Kotz and her posse arrived at this school, destroying it one step at a time.
At the beginning of the year, I, along with several students, received a e-mail from one of the teachers, who is being released at the end of the year. The e-mail said that we should all help at Gunsaulus. If you didn't know, once Kotz entered the building, she started to reorganized all the rooms, so there was a lot of moving with books, desks, etc.
That teacher was so nice. Why should she go at the end of the year? In fact, in the e-mail, she told us to help out, because the principal (Kotz) needs help getting around.
Who knew? Who knew if this principal will get rid of a teacher who told students to help her around? So, why?
In this turmoil period at Gunsaulus, why must we suffer? The last day of school will be one of the saddest ones I have ever experienced in my years since kindergarten at Gunsaulus. Why must students suffer through this living hell at school? Why must students endure through this turmoil at Gunsaulus.
You know what, Gunsaulus will change even more dramatically next year. How many teachers will be released next year? Kotz' main plan is to wipe out every teacher that has been there before her. Her main plan is to have every staff member hired by herself. It's an awful plan, but a true plan. Kotz' plan is the Devil's Arithmetic. "One subtracted from the top equals one added to the bottom." That's the Devil's arithmetic. However, in this case, one subtracted from the current staff, equals one added to Kotz' posse. It's a horrible plan. And, if you didn't know, the Devil's arithmetic was used in the Holocaust. Hitler was the "devil." And in this case, Kotz is sort of the devil.
So, why must the devil's arithmetic be used in schools? Is Kotz going to teach kids to disrespect their teachers? Is this a new beginning of the "Hitler-Youth?" Is this Kotz' Youth? Boy, Gunsaulus is relating to Nazi Germany. Oh my god, wait, hold on, I can't say that. It's religious discrimination! Ok then. Oh gosh! I wouldn't want to be in a school under dictatorship!
Let's evict Kotz now from this school. But, what if we just send her into a grade level classroom, as a teacher? Let see how she'll survive!
But, we need to get rid of her. She is turning the school into a kind of Nazi school. It would be a nightmare if the Nazi flag is flown at school.
At the beginning of the year, I, along with several students, received a e-mail from one of the teachers, who is being released at the end of the year. The e-mail said that we should all help at Gunsaulus. If you didn't know, once Kotz entered the building, she started to reorganized all the rooms, so there was a lot of moving with books, desks, etc.
That teacher was so nice. Why should she go at the end of the year? In fact, in the e-mail, she told us to help out, because the principal (Kotz) needs help getting around.
Who knew? Who knew if this principal will get rid of a teacher who told students to help her around? So, why?
In this turmoil period at Gunsaulus, why must we suffer? The last day of school will be one of the saddest ones I have ever experienced in my years since kindergarten at Gunsaulus. Why must students suffer through this living hell at school? Why must students endure through this turmoil at Gunsaulus.
You know what, Gunsaulus will change even more dramatically next year. How many teachers will be released next year? Kotz' main plan is to wipe out every teacher that has been there before her. Her main plan is to have every staff member hired by herself. It's an awful plan, but a true plan. Kotz' plan is the Devil's Arithmetic. "One subtracted from the top equals one added to the bottom." That's the Devil's arithmetic. However, in this case, one subtracted from the current staff, equals one added to Kotz' posse. It's a horrible plan. And, if you didn't know, the Devil's arithmetic was used in the Holocaust. Hitler was the "devil." And in this case, Kotz is sort of the devil.
So, why must the devil's arithmetic be used in schools? Is Kotz going to teach kids to disrespect their teachers? Is this a new beginning of the "Hitler-Youth?" Is this Kotz' Youth? Boy, Gunsaulus is relating to Nazi Germany. Oh my god, wait, hold on, I can't say that. It's religious discrimination! Ok then. Oh gosh! I wouldn't want to be in a school under dictatorship!
Let's evict Kotz now from this school. But, what if we just send her into a grade level classroom, as a teacher? Let see how she'll survive!
But, we need to get rid of her. She is turning the school into a kind of Nazi school. It would be a nightmare if the Nazi flag is flown at school.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
We were not given anything but it is not June 1st yet. We were told to pack up all of our personal items and take them home. We were told that she is putting tables and desks in rooms and we are to keep them whether we need/want them. We were told to request what need as far as furniture for next year...if we end up not in that room, the person that gets the room will have to keep it. We were told to organize students for next year...but just put them in groups without room numbers or teacher's names since we don't know who will be where. We were told that there will be shuffling. We were told to make supply lists for next year...even though we do not know what grade we will have. We were told to do summer learning packets, not knowing what grade we will get next year. Next year's organization is the world's best kept secret. This is just another example of the psychological mind games Kotz plays on the teachers. She wants us to be frustrated and unhappy. More of a chance we will leave. Maybe some at other schools are now having a better understanding of why we are so unhappy. She abuses her power to mentally abuse the teachers. Believe me, she knows the contract...and how to use it against us at every turn.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Let me clarify. I did not refuse to organize something for my basketball kids. For the past several months Kotz has been sitting on my written request for a banquet with my ideas for the costs of trophies, food, etc. I was told I could not have a banquet until soccer and softball were over so that they could all be together. Haven't heard anything else about it until today, 2 weeks before the end of the school year. Today in the meeting the teachers were asked if any of us wanted to organize the banquet for everyone (which had a tentative date of June 5th). When I didn't jump to volunteer for this like I did by bending over backward this ENTIRE year to do extra stuff, she made a comment about how the coaches should be there for the kids and do this for them. I'm really not surprised this happened.
To all basketball parents and kids who read this - I'll try to figure something out for all of you. You worked way too hard to be forgotten now in the end of the year shuffle. I really should have just done this on my own to begin with instead of going through the school request protocol just to have it pushed aside. There is something to be said for the hard work, perseverance, dedication, and extremely commendable sportsmanship all 40 students put forth to make it a championship season, and they deserve at least a trophy. This is the first time many of these kids played a sport, and with some graduating and going on to different things, this may be the last time. Maybe the PTO would be willing to help us out with this? You ladies have done so much for us this year and have been extremely helpful. I'm not sure people realize just how much you have offered your services and funding for anything and everything the students need. I appreciate it. Anyone else with suggestions or willing to help, I would appreciate that too.
To all basketball parents and kids who read this - I'll try to figure something out for all of you. You worked way too hard to be forgotten now in the end of the year shuffle. I really should have just done this on my own to begin with instead of going through the school request protocol just to have it pushed aside. There is something to be said for the hard work, perseverance, dedication, and extremely commendable sportsmanship all 40 students put forth to make it a championship season, and they deserve at least a trophy. This is the first time many of these kids played a sport, and with some graduating and going on to different things, this may be the last time. Maybe the PTO would be willing to help us out with this? You ladies have done so much for us this year and have been extremely helpful. I'm not sure people realize just how much you have offered your services and funding for anything and everything the students need. I appreciate it. Anyone else with suggestions or willing to help, I would appreciate that too.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You ran a wonderful program. I bet if you asked the teachers of the basketball players, they would help you out. Even contribute for trophies. I think much of the reaction at the meeting this morning was shock and awe of the audacity of Kotz...how many times did she accuse the teachers of not being there for the students...4 or 5??? Have a feeling the PTO will help too...even after all the abuse they have endured this year under Kotz, they are there for the teachers and kids. They are wonderful people...as are you.
Tue May 26, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
If you said mmmm....hhhmmm. Then I said OH WELL! Love ya - see you in the morning :)
Tue May 26, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To :Gunsaulus Teachers
From: Jack Moran CSDU Vice President Candidate
You do have rights concerning your teaching assignment for next year under the contract. In the current contract Article 40-3 page 97 states: "A tentative teaching program for the next school year shall be presented to each teacher by June 1 of the current school year, or in the case of year-round schools on Tracks C and D or similar calendars no later than May 15 of each year. Teachers will be notified of any changes to the aforementioned teaching program, in writing, as soon as possible." If you do not receive this information on time, contact your schools CTU Field Rep. to file a grievance. If you need further assistance, email the CSDU at leadership@csdu.org
In True Solidarity
Jack Moran
From: Jack Moran CSDU Vice President Candidate
You do have rights concerning your teaching assignment for next year under the contract. In the current contract Article 40-3 page 97 states: "A tentative teaching program for the next school year shall be presented to each teacher by June 1 of the current school year, or in the case of year-round schools on Tracks C and D or similar calendars no later than May 15 of each year. Teachers will be notified of any changes to the aforementioned teaching program, in writing, as soon as possible." If you do not receive this information on time, contact your schools CTU Field Rep. to file a grievance. If you need further assistance, email the CSDU at leadership@csdu.org
In True Solidarity
Jack Moran
Tue May 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
PTO board already voted to provide medals/trophies for after school sports. I requested the information as to the teams, student names, etc from Ms. Kotz several times, only to be told that I have to collect the names myself. I was told that the school does not have a master list of which students are on which teams.
It is true that Ms. Senka approached PTO and the principal VERY early about basketball.
Ms. Senka is probably the LAST teacher who should be accused of not being there for the students. This is s story which is typical of the situation at Gunsaulus this year.
As an aside, at the 6th grade coffee talk with the principal, Kotz was lamenting the fact that there were so few sponsors for after school programs last year. I regret to say that I did NOT speak up and point out the obvious-that three of the PATs being let go were happy to sponsor extracurricular activities, but were told they were not a "good fit" for the school. I did not say anything, because I was trying to take the high road and not turn the coffee talk into an unpleasant experience for the other parents. I still regret not saying anything, even though it would not have made any difference.
I would like to say one last time to the parents-if you are not happy with the way things are at Gunsaulus under this new administation, then YOU HAVE TO SPEAK OUT. Write letters to Ron Huberman and express your concerns. Only write if you are willing to put your name and contact infomation on your letter. Anonymous claims do not hold any weight and are not convincing.
But then again, it is only ME who is discontented, if we believe some of the blog threads and the comments from the chosen ones.
Gale
It is true that Ms. Senka approached PTO and the principal VERY early about basketball.
Ms. Senka is probably the LAST teacher who should be accused of not being there for the students. This is s story which is typical of the situation at Gunsaulus this year.
As an aside, at the 6th grade coffee talk with the principal, Kotz was lamenting the fact that there were so few sponsors for after school programs last year. I regret to say that I did NOT speak up and point out the obvious-that three of the PATs being let go were happy to sponsor extracurricular activities, but were told they were not a "good fit" for the school. I did not say anything, because I was trying to take the high road and not turn the coffee talk into an unpleasant experience for the other parents. I still regret not saying anything, even though it would not have made any difference.
I would like to say one last time to the parents-if you are not happy with the way things are at Gunsaulus under this new administation, then YOU HAVE TO SPEAK OUT. Write letters to Ron Huberman and express your concerns. Only write if you are willing to put your name and contact infomation on your letter. Anonymous claims do not hold any weight and are not convincing.
But then again, it is only ME who is discontented, if we believe some of the blog threads and the comments from the chosen ones.
Gale
Wed May 27, 2009 at 5:49 AM
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Let's face it...the majority of people left at Gunsaulus are no longer a good fit under this administration. We are honest, ethical, moral people who love the kids and know that we went into this profession for that reason. We worked as a cohesive team to plan and carry out what was best for the school community. We do not fit into this knew monarchy. Neither do the kids. I am not saying that we were or better than any other staff out there and we are certainly no saints, but there was always someone to be the voice of reason, take the high road, encourage us to work harder and together, etc. Those voices are silenced by our new leader. You either play her underhanded game or you are out. For those of you that read the new SIPAA yesterday...please note that last year's test scores were conveniently omitted. Kotz is continuing to say that our scores went down, despite the fact that they clearly went up. Also notice that the school is indeed paying for both reading teachers and if I remember correctly, $37,000 for a writing program that the teachers felt we did not need. Our writing scores are good and have improved over the past two years. Again, a couple of Kotz's people wantes something...and they got it at a cost to everyone else. Status quo at Gunsaulus this year.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 6:04 AM
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She also chastised people for removing kids from reward lists and activities for behavior. She said parents complained to her. Wasn't it HER that removed names from the service picnic??? So when parents complained, she blamed the teachers AGAIN. When will the board step in and remove this mess??? She simply is not good at her job and has proven to be the worst fit of all.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Principal Kotz
Man, she's more of a dude than I am. I'm scared of that amazon.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
oh my god did she ask ms senka not to come back? if so she is definitely out of her mind. my daughter had her last year and she is one of the most smartest and caring teacher I know. People we need to go to the board and make some dam noise!!!!
Wed May 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I'm at th point where i don't feel like I even belong at this school anymore. I feel like a kid on the first day of high school lost alone and afraid. I'm looking for other employment just in case! In so many words she telling us she doesn't want us here. and she's forcing us out by playing these manipulating games and we are her toys. THis reminds me of a tom and jerry episode, she's the cat and we are her mouse.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 7:20 PM
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She told Senka and SEVERAL ( around 17 total staff have been let go this year) others they were not a good fit for the school. Guess she did not look at test scores, talk to kids or parents, or observe their teaching. This happened back in March...where you been???
Wed May 27, 2009 at 7:53 PM
well said devil's arithmetic
who ever said the comment about the devil's arithmetic...well said. you got it right. thats exactly what's happening.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 8:09 PM
:(
as the end of the year draws nearer, my sadness piles up on me. I hardly feel like trying anymore. im so ready to just shut down, i don't feel like getting up in the morning and putting on a smile and wearing it as if nothing's wrong. i know, maybe you think it's just the end of the year so all the students are ready to shut down because summer is almost here.
but this year, i just feel so ready to quit. how can i go on when my teachers can't? how can i tell myself "it'll all be ok next year, after all it's my last year right?" when i don't even know how anything will be next year?
i can see it in my teacher's faces everyday, and hear it in their tired out voices. they want to shut down too. that just makes it harder for my fellow classmates and i to go on, knowing that out teachers don't want to.
on the last day of school...im going to give so many hugs, and probably shed a few tears too. because the closer the last day comes, the closer we get to the unknown regions of next year. who knows how much change will happen next year. all we can do is hope.
but this year, i just feel so ready to quit. how can i go on when my teachers can't? how can i tell myself "it'll all be ok next year, after all it's my last year right?" when i don't even know how anything will be next year?
i can see it in my teacher's faces everyday, and hear it in their tired out voices. they want to shut down too. that just makes it harder for my fellow classmates and i to go on, knowing that out teachers don't want to.
on the last day of school...im going to give so many hugs, and probably shed a few tears too. because the closer the last day comes, the closer we get to the unknown regions of next year. who knows how much change will happen next year. all we can do is hope.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 8:55 PM
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Before Kotz decides to release another teacher, please follow these steps. STOP. LOOK. LISTEN. THINK.
STOP.
"You're not a good fit." I don't know what that means, but how is it a reason to get rid of staff? Can't she explain a REAL reason why she's getting rid of them? She can even say, "I don't like you." That'll be a better reason than "You're not a good fit."
LOOK.
If Kotz is reading this, please consider looking at how the students are doing/learning under these teachers. Consider, "Have ISAT scores rose, or decreased?" If it has decreased, that's a better reason for getting rid of teachers. If it has rose, why get rid of these teachers who improved the students? I'm pretty sure ISAT scores will come in pretty soon. Let's see how students did. If there is a rise in scores of the 5th, 6th, and 7th grades, you know the teachers being released are doing a great job.
LISTEN.
Another piece of advice, consider opinions from parents and students. Students are the entire reason why we have school. No students, no school. By the way, the CPS motto is "Children First." Consider the opinions of students, especially the students of teachers being released. If the students, and parents, think this teacher shall stay, he/she shall stay. But, since we have no voice in how the school is run, it is up to you (Kotz), as the ultimate decision whether these teachers stay or leave.
THINK.
Just think if these teachers are really beneficial to the school, or not. One of the teachers being released, have done tremendous things to the school. This teacher was the athletic director for the entire school. She has contributed her time as basketball coach, and she works so hard just to send players to their games, etc.
Ok. If you don't think they did anything good to the school, THEN consider whether they're going or not.
That's my advice.
Am/Pm
STOP.
"You're not a good fit." I don't know what that means, but how is it a reason to get rid of staff? Can't she explain a REAL reason why she's getting rid of them? She can even say, "I don't like you." That'll be a better reason than "You're not a good fit."
LOOK.
If Kotz is reading this, please consider looking at how the students are doing/learning under these teachers. Consider, "Have ISAT scores rose, or decreased?" If it has decreased, that's a better reason for getting rid of teachers. If it has rose, why get rid of these teachers who improved the students? I'm pretty sure ISAT scores will come in pretty soon. Let's see how students did. If there is a rise in scores of the 5th, 6th, and 7th grades, you know the teachers being released are doing a great job.
LISTEN.
Another piece of advice, consider opinions from parents and students. Students are the entire reason why we have school. No students, no school. By the way, the CPS motto is "Children First." Consider the opinions of students, especially the students of teachers being released. If the students, and parents, think this teacher shall stay, he/she shall stay. But, since we have no voice in how the school is run, it is up to you (Kotz), as the ultimate decision whether these teachers stay or leave.
THINK.
Just think if these teachers are really beneficial to the school, or not. One of the teachers being released, have done tremendous things to the school. This teacher was the athletic director for the entire school. She has contributed her time as basketball coach, and she works so hard just to send players to their games, etc.
Ok. If you don't think they did anything good to the school, THEN consider whether they're going or not.
That's my advice.
Am/Pm
Wed May 27, 2009 at 9:02 PM
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Read about Prescott Elementary at www.substancenews.net. Principal names can be interchangeable. Good luck to all of you at Gunsaulus. The 'old guard' (what's left of us), know exactly what you are going through!
Wed May 27, 2009 at 9:25 PM
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This is outrageous I am stunned. This principal needs to let these teacher be what they know how to be, the best dame teachers on the southwest side of chicago. Why would she want to destroy something that is so right and so effective? Will she have any staff next year? and if she's firing everyone who will she hire? where's the postings for open positions? not on ebulletin! Kotz must have many favors to return. What a very sad time. someone answer these puzzling questions
Wed May 27, 2009 at 9:27 PM
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what happened to the " security guard" you know the one that just sat and smiled?
Wed May 27, 2009 at 9:30 PM
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Dubin always has a dirty sneaky arrogant look in her eyes and a smirk on her face. I guess she's laughing at all the havoc that kotz is wreaking on the teachers and student's lives. Youre a mean one, mrs grinch!!!!
Wed May 27, 2009 at 9:50 PM
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I am for one will not let Kotz, Pluas, Salas, and that drunk Dubin to ruin my eighth grade. She wont see me leave. I decided to stay for my friends. I have watched my sister happily graduate from a school she was proud of. That was when Dr. Jordak and Mr. Jonikaitis ran the school. I wont let the posse ruin my graduation year. I will have a blast and so will all of us. Puffy vest Kotz, Pluas, arrogant Salas, and drunken Dubin can just leave because they arent welcome. Bert you are the problem but you hide yourself because youre a coward. I never liked you either. Everyone laughs at you and laughs behind your back. All of you are drowning in a sea of lies. And this wont last for long. The law department is on all of you. Hiding police reports from the law. How dare you. How shallow could you be? I am not letting you ruin my life or my fellow teachers and students lives. I have personally contacted ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and CPS.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 9:50 PM
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I am for one will not let Kotz, Pluas, Salas, and that drunk Dubin to ruin my eighth grade. She wont see me leave. I decided to stay for my friends. I have watched my sister happily graduate from a school she was proud of. That was when Dr. Jordak and Mr. Jonikaitis ran the school. I wont let the posse ruin my graduation year. I will have a blast and so will all of us. Puffy vest Kotz, Pluas, arrogant Salas, and drunken Dubin can just leave because they arent welcome. Bert you are the problem but you hide yourself because youre a coward. I never liked you either. Everyone laughs at you and laughs behind your back. All of you are drowning in a sea of lies. And this wont last for long. The law department is on all of you. Hiding police reports from the law. How dare you. How shallow could you be? I am not letting you ruin my life or my fellow teachers and students lives. I have personally contacted ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and CPS.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM
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Did Kotz come from NLNS?
Is the board really going to pay the salaries (at an administrative level-no less) for NLNS interns that have not even taken one course for type 75?
Why do these people get preference?
Is the board really going to pay the salaries (at an administrative level-no less) for NLNS interns that have not even taken one course for type 75?
Why do these people get preference?
Wed May 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM
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NLNS=New Leaders for New Schools is a program to teach people how to be a principal. Ms Kotz must have missed a few lessons. She seems to have a problem keeping her stories straight. If you speak the truth you don't have to try and recall what story you told before.
Wed May 27, 2009 at 11:28 PM
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Kotz is not a New Leader. She is from the UIC Ed. D. program. She has the same mentality as many of the New Leaders; however. UIC would not have Amy's philosophy. Unfortunately, Amy is not listening to what her mentors are telling her.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 1:37 AM
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Anyone who purges veteran teachers is an enemy of decent schooling. I'm glad we spent the past year reorganizing our print and Web operations so that we could cover all these stories in a timely manner as they unfolded.
One of the features we're planning is "Journal" utilizing journaling from teachers who are facing crazed principals and being flayed under the Purple Paper Clip Rule.
One of the features we're planning is "Journal" utilizing journaling from teachers who are facing crazed principals and being flayed under the Purple Paper Clip Rule.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 6:46 AM
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Does anyone have any comments on the Office of Principal Preparedness and Preparation (OPPD)? Do they have a role in principal education and training? What are the requirements and what are the training programs that a person must go through in order to become a principal? and what extra requirements does CPS have?
This is a rather involved question, I realize, so if you would prefer to offer some links to the information rather than qriting everything out, I would ge grateful.
It seems that so many schools have our same story, and I am wondering where all these principals are coming from.
Gale
This is a rather involved question, I realize, so if you would prefer to offer some links to the information rather than qriting everything out, I would ge grateful.
It seems that so many schools have our same story, and I am wondering where all these principals are coming from.
Gale
Thu May 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM
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The OPPD website has all of the requirements for acquiring eligibility to be a CPS principal. However, almost no one on staff at OPPD has ever been a principal. Hmmmm? The principal prep programs are a waste. Certainly their focus on data has left out the "human relations" part of the job.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM
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I heard today that the teachers have to park elsewhere tomorrow to accommodate the fun fair. Much of the neighborhood is zoned parking, but I have good luck finding parking on 45th and 44th streets East of the school. It's possible that 46th and 43rd streets are also OK to park, but I have not looked on those streets. Be careful to check signs on the North/South streets, because most of those are the zoned spaces.
Gale
Gale
Thu May 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM
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Only the north parking lot will be closed tomorrow, and only a few park there anyways.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM
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Well, Amy is playing games with the staff again. Today she handed out next year's assignments to SOME of the teachers, but not all of them. They received their assignment in a sealed envelope that was hand delivered to them. Most of the teachers have to change grade levels and rooms. Of course, she wasn't fair because everyone did not receive their assignment. Also, some teachers got to keep their own rooms or grade levels, while others are being moved.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM
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This sounds so much like our former principal. He had so much spare time on his hands he would actually call you in to give you the next year's assignment. Favorites went in first-non-favorites, late in the afternoon. This type of bullying behavior is not specific to new principals-he retired after 40 years and is still swilling at the feeding trough.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 6:12 PM
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Sealed envelopes?? What happened to the list that was handed out at faculty meetings?? Why would she give some and not others?? This sounds like a game to cause controversy. The teachers that did not get a letter today have to stew until tomorrow?? For what purpose?? Are their qualifications going to change overnight?? According to NCLB and the board, only certain teachers can teach sertain subject in upper grades. Did they all get their letters? Why would you pass one teachers door to deliver a letter to the next one? You know she has it all figured out...this is just more mind games at the expense of the teachers. As a parent and an employee of the board, I truly feel for the teachers of Gunsaulus. What you have had to put up with this year would have killed lesser people. You are all wonderful people. Thank you for sticking it out with this tyrant. My son also came home and said that the 8th graders (he is not an 8th grafer) were not included or invited to the Fun Fair. She seems to have written these poor kids off in the most exciting year in their time at Gunsaulus. Just evil.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM
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'she wasn't fair because everyone did not receive their assignment...'
Principals can assign teachers where it is best instructioanlly.
Check the contract and it is due June 1. It is not June 1-yet.
Principals can assign teachers where it is best instructioanlly.
Check the contract and it is due June 1. It is not June 1-yet.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM
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thanks...we know the date...the point is why not just do them all on the same day. Why play games? If you know where some teachers will be, then you know where all teachers will be. We are also aware that principals assign teachers where it is best instructionally...that is just not how the Gunsaulus princiapl operates. After all, she fired some teachers that have had the highest gains in the last two years. That was best?? Any more wisdom?
Thu May 28, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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I would like to make a suggestion to you -- many schools or classeshave it, you should set up your own unofficial yahoo group so you can carry on discussions, get your parents on board. It is a way to get your parents involved and get questions answered above. Set up a moderator and you don't have to air things you may not want administration or others to see. Just a suggestion.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM
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I think the only teacher in 7th grade that is staying at Gunsaulus is staying in 7th grade. The rest were let go...no word on replacements. 5th got shuffled but no clue how or who...
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:06 PM
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There must have been a misunderstanding or a missed comunication somewhere because all 8th graders and every child will be attending the funfair. today there were many parents helping for the fun fair lets hope tomorrow will be nice. we want all the kids to have fun. Some 8th graders will be helping with the preschoolers but those children will attend the fun fair when there classmates come down.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:11 PM
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Moore got moved up to 5th but don't know who else.
Bjork and Tollerud will be in 7th but the other teacher is ?
Bach is the 8th grade math teacher in place of Tollerud.
Bjork and Tollerud will be in 7th but the other teacher is ?
Bach is the 8th grade math teacher in place of Tollerud.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM
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when summer hits? What will you blog about then--what she wears in the summer? How hot the building is inside when there are no children in it? man....
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM
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to blog about what she wears in the summer. Probably the same short pants.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:55 PM
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There was no miscommunication...8th graders were not on the original schedule. The 8th grade teachers noticed that their kids were left off the schedule. I am not an 8th grade teacher but heard that one of them actually had to go to the principal and point it out. At first the principal said she was told that the 8th graders don't go, a few of them are going to help the kindergarden. It was after a teacher went and asked that the 8th graders were included. They were also told that there probably was not enough candy and prizes for them. No miscommunication...they were not on my schedule that I got from my mailbox this morning. Problem solved though...thanks to the teacher, and I hope they have a great time.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 7:59 PM
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Well, I am going to enjoy my time away from Gunsaulus. Study up on my new grade level. Gear up for my big move to the room next door...What are you going to do when you have nothing to read and bitch about. Start your own blog? Or find another group to harass? Have fun!
Thu May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM
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Mr. T. not in 8th?? What about Green? I wanted my son to get them both next year.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM
...i agree...
yeah same here!! i wanted to get ms. green and mr. t in eighth grade!!!!
Thu May 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM
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Are you serious? Mrs. Bach is going to be the 8th grade math teacher?
Thu May 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
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OPPD is an office that helps principals who have already gotten their contract. They are not a prinicpal preparation program. Just as an FYI, Chicago has a few programs that nearly have a monopoly on chosen administrators for the city. The "chosen" programs are New Leaders (we can see how fantastic this program is with Erin Roche from Prescott), UIC Ed. D. (Amy is from this program), and AUSL (involved in many of the turnaround schools who still don't do any better after they have been turned around). Even Launch is not even as predominant now. The problem with these programs isn't necessarily the quality of the training; however, just because you are smart and can "talk" the language, doesn't mean that you will be a good leader. I have NEVER been impressed with New Leaders. In this program, you only have to have taught for 2 years as a teacher in order to apply. If you make it through the "tests" you can be a part of this program and then after a 1 year intern as a principal, get to be a principal yourself. Nice preparation, huh? The UIC program is really good, actually. Amy just doesn't listen. AUSL is the New Leaders nemasis. I don't know a lot about AUSL.
Another problem with the principal preparation programs is that there are so many "cohorts" being developed by mediocre schools that allow individuals to get out of school very quickly; however, these programs are often taught by adjunct professors who are not tenured with the university. A lot of these programs do not do an effective job of training future principals. One school that is rarely ever talked about but does a great job is Loyola. Each core class is taught by tenured professors. They only allow cohorts every few years and the calibur of educators teaching is outstanding. The social justice piece also helps candidates with urban leadership.
At any rate, OPPD does help new principals very well. Each principal is assigned a leadership coach (a former experienced principal) who meets with the new prinicpals regularly. They help in so many ways. Their PD isn't great, but most of the coaches are really good.
Another problem with the principal preparation programs is that there are so many "cohorts" being developed by mediocre schools that allow individuals to get out of school very quickly; however, these programs are often taught by adjunct professors who are not tenured with the university. A lot of these programs do not do an effective job of training future principals. One school that is rarely ever talked about but does a great job is Loyola. Each core class is taught by tenured professors. They only allow cohorts every few years and the calibur of educators teaching is outstanding. The social justice piece also helps candidates with urban leadership.
At any rate, OPPD does help new principals very well. Each principal is assigned a leadership coach (a former experienced principal) who meets with the new prinicpals regularly. They help in so many ways. Their PD isn't great, but most of the coaches are really good.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM
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ms. Bach is an excellent Math teacher...let's not be insulting here. The focus of the blog is the problems with leadership. Do not insult very good, hard-working teachers who have no choice in their placement for next year. She may not want to be there either.
Thu May 28, 2009 at 9:13 PM
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ms bachs technique isnt the best. but i would prefer mr t as my sons math teacher
Thu May 28, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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Mrs. Bach is a great at math. However, isn't she the algebra coach already? Does that mean she has to meet some of her 8th graders have to see her in the morning, and after-school with the algebra program?
Thu May 28, 2009 at 9:50 PM
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will this school have any openings this september for teachers?
someone suggested i read this blog!
are all principals like this?
someone please help me by answering these questions
someone suggested i read this blog!
are all principals like this?
someone please help me by answering these questions
Thu May 28, 2009 at 10:53 PM
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To:searching
As a student here for 8 years, I assure you not all principals are like this. In fact, I dont think there is a worse principal in chicago currently other than the imfamous Amy L. Kotz. Unless you are bi-lingual you shouldnt apply here because the chances of you getting the certain position is slim. The principal only hires people she knows from other schools. Now she is destroying it. What was once a top of the line school is now a school of lies and betrayal. The drama here never ends.
Every week something new comes up. A week from now we could be talking about something we would never dream about. I would like to compare Kotz to Professor Umbridge in Harry Potter. She comes in and begins to destroy from the bottom to the top. Eventually she will beat the hope out of you and try to get you fired. Its not like its new.
Kotz fired 13 teachers in one day and that was the last day of ISAT testing. When our beloved Julian King died, there were no grief councelors for the older children. Its as if we dont exist.
I hope I have persuaded you enough not to apply here. But if you decide to and you get the position, beware of Kotz and her posse.
As a student here for 8 years, I assure you not all principals are like this. In fact, I dont think there is a worse principal in chicago currently other than the imfamous Amy L. Kotz. Unless you are bi-lingual you shouldnt apply here because the chances of you getting the certain position is slim. The principal only hires people she knows from other schools. Now she is destroying it. What was once a top of the line school is now a school of lies and betrayal. The drama here never ends.
Every week something new comes up. A week from now we could be talking about something we would never dream about. I would like to compare Kotz to Professor Umbridge in Harry Potter. She comes in and begins to destroy from the bottom to the top. Eventually she will beat the hope out of you and try to get you fired. Its not like its new.
Kotz fired 13 teachers in one day and that was the last day of ISAT testing. When our beloved Julian King died, there were no grief councelors for the older children. Its as if we dont exist.
I hope I have persuaded you enough not to apply here. But if you decide to and you get the position, beware of Kotz and her posse.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:54 AM
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Alias is right.
This top of the line school has become a horrifying nightmare. I bet when anyone at other schools hear the name Kotz, it sends chills down their spine.
So, why is she here?
In my view, the interim principal, Dr. Lillian Gonzalez, was MUCH better than Kotz. Dr. Gonzalez gave us AVID, and she got the loving teachers we all love, who Kotz is getting rid of.
Kotz does not change the school. Instead of improving the daily lives of students, she make students live more miserable.
Today, I was instructed to bring all the stuff I won in all those competitions. Apparently, I being placed in the newspaper. BUT, let me tell you, if I have to take a picture with Kotz......
Am/Pm
This top of the line school has become a horrifying nightmare. I bet when anyone at other schools hear the name Kotz, it sends chills down their spine.
So, why is she here?
In my view, the interim principal, Dr. Lillian Gonzalez, was MUCH better than Kotz. Dr. Gonzalez gave us AVID, and she got the loving teachers we all love, who Kotz is getting rid of.
Kotz does not change the school. Instead of improving the daily lives of students, she make students live more miserable.
Today, I was instructed to bring all the stuff I won in all those competitions. Apparently, I being placed in the newspaper. BUT, let me tell you, if I have to take a picture with Kotz......
Am/Pm
Fri May 29, 2009 at 3:24 PM
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the fun fair today was a joke. .at the funfair...the space was too small, and i think that without the pto...the funfair was kind of a waste of time...
Fri May 29, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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why can you not leave it alone. the kids has fun today it was nice we had many kids and parent helping out. we din not hear any complains from any kids.why do you always have to talk crap about anything we do at school. keep your nasty comments to yourself.if you have nothing better to do than talk about evry thing and everyone than you need to get a life.maybe as you say p.t.o. did it better so we try something different.it does not matter who does what better it is that the children have fun and they did.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 3:54 PM
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To parent:
The "u cant c me" comment is actually a student. I know this because she is in my class. I actually heard many comments from the kids that they didn't like it as much as in years past. Personally, I didn't mind it...but they said they missed the candy table from last year and being able to buy certain things. Maybe take it as a suggestion for next year instead of always trying to blame adults for the thoughts and feelings of children? Just a thought...
The "u cant c me" comment is actually a student. I know this because she is in my class. I actually heard many comments from the kids that they didn't like it as much as in years past. Personally, I didn't mind it...but they said they missed the candy table from last year and being able to buy certain things. Maybe take it as a suggestion for next year instead of always trying to blame adults for the thoughts and feelings of children? Just a thought...
Fri May 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM
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The kids enjoyed it because they were threatened with no fun fair at all and were happy they at least got something. Yes, it was a success...thank god for the weather. They missed the candy table and were upset that game duties were not split among the classes and that one class got to help with games all day and then got pizza. What people have to remember is that kids base everything on what is fair...and some felt it was not fair and therefore had a problem with it.
And, yes, please stop blaming adults for the free speech our children are exercising on the blog...you can tell a child post from an adult post...at least most of us can.
The kids just want the traditions to remain the same.
Thank you to all the parents that were there today...you worked hard and did a good job.
And, yes, please stop blaming adults for the free speech our children are exercising on the blog...you can tell a child post from an adult post...at least most of us can.
The kids just want the traditions to remain the same.
Thank you to all the parents that were there today...you worked hard and did a good job.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 4:14 PM
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despite everything that is happening here at the school, much pleaseure was felt as i looked around and saw the fun the children were having. it made me forget all the negative things at least for a little while. The kids had fun and that's all that matters!
Fri May 29, 2009 at 5:05 PM
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AMY did not plan the fun fair. Thank the parents who volunteered if you are happy. We don't need Kotz taking more credit for stuff that wasn't her doing.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 5:09 PM
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I was reading your blog and if you haven't received assignments the principal has until june 1 if not she can be in big trouble with the board!
Fri May 29, 2009 at 5:24 PM
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No, Amy will never be in big trouble with the Board. If she has not been canned yet for the various crimes, misdemeanors, and mismanagement she's already committed, then missing this June 1 deadline to make assignments is a pittance. In fact, she'll probably defy it just to prove she can. She's got large rocks, CPS is scared of her, and she'll continue to do what she damn well pleases. And CPS goons will continue to tell us to resolve it at the local level, whatever that means.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM
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Did she really break up the 8th grade team? I heard that Mr. T and Miss Green have been moved. What's up with that?
Fri May 29, 2009 at 5:52 PM
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I'm one of the teachers being let go, does anyone reading this know of a school that has open positions?
Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:22 PM
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First of all, let's NOT give credit to KOTZ for the fun fair. It was put on by the wonderful parents who gave of their time. Thank you so much PARENTS. Second of all, KOTZ doled out half of the new assignments yesterday by going to each teacher with a sealed envelope with their next year's assignment. She purposely did not give them all out. She made the rest of the teachers wait until today. Who ever heard of a principal doing that??? Today the other half of the staff received theirs. Just to be mean, she made them wait. Isn't that harassment? Again, her new hires this year and buddies got just what they wanted. The grade levels and rooms they want. A handful of teachers won't have to move or change grade levels. But for the rest of us, what a mix up! without mentioning names, we have our wonderful eighth grade LA/Reading teacher going to FIRST grade!!!! Can you imagine? So, yes, the eighth grade team is gone. Our sixth grade science teacher is off to kindergarten! a fifth grade teacher is being sent to preschool. The kindergarten teacher will be in fourth grade. A third grade teacher is going to be the new sixth grade science teacher. Those are the drastic changes. However, many others are changing rooms and grade levels. Even special ed.! A super primary special ed teacher is being sent up to an upperlevel sp ed. room, while that sp. ed. teacher will be sent ot fifth. She is scrambling rooms and grades. Not that people should stay in their same jobs their whole careers, BUT not her friends, they have their rooms and grades they got this year. By the way, USUALLY, MOST principals just call a faculty meeting around the 1st of May and hand out a master sheet with the assignments for next year so everyone finds out at the same time. This is another case in point of very poor administration. Kotz just wants to assure us she is a control freak.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:36 PM
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CPS is scared of Kotz? Well, guess what? Kotz is scared of the upper grade kids at school! She treats us upper grade kids like a piece of trash! She doesn't think we exist! We are young adults, and we should have a voice.
On the other hand... fun fair... Please....
To the parents, thanks for coming out at 6AM for setting it up. Thanks for staying all day. We REALLY couldn't have a fun fair without you.
What's good about the fun fair, EVERYTHING IS FREE! I love free things! Free food, free games, and free prizes with the free games!
Only one of the PTO (also a LSC) members were there. Two of the LSC members were there. The rest were parent volunteers.
Just if you didn't know, the photos for the newspaper went great. Just one little mistake, I forgot my trophy and medal at school. Great. My precious belongings at school, in the weekend. And you all know who has the keys to the school, and who wanders the school in the weekends... If I don't get my stuff back on Monday, I seriously will be super p----- at the school. I will blast Kotz away. And then, I'll get suspended for talkin to Kotz like that. In a matter of fact, I had a dream, that I was expelled for not winning that city competition. Kotz was like, "You could've done better than that! GOSH! WHY?"
Scary...
Let's see on Monday...
On the other hand... fun fair... Please....
To the parents, thanks for coming out at 6AM for setting it up. Thanks for staying all day. We REALLY couldn't have a fun fair without you.
What's good about the fun fair, EVERYTHING IS FREE! I love free things! Free food, free games, and free prizes with the free games!
Only one of the PTO (also a LSC) members were there. Two of the LSC members were there. The rest were parent volunteers.
Just if you didn't know, the photos for the newspaper went great. Just one little mistake, I forgot my trophy and medal at school. Great. My precious belongings at school, in the weekend. And you all know who has the keys to the school, and who wanders the school in the weekends... If I don't get my stuff back on Monday, I seriously will be super p----- at the school. I will blast Kotz away. And then, I'll get suspended for talkin to Kotz like that. In a matter of fact, I had a dream, that I was expelled for not winning that city competition. Kotz was like, "You could've done better than that! GOSH! WHY?"
Scary...
Let's see on Monday...
Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
has she hired any new teachers yet?
any word on who they are?
any word on who they are?
Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I am a parent of a seventh grader and could not wait until my son got to Miss Green and Mr. T. I am also one of those parents that check the school report card and scores. They had the highest scores in the school last year! Who is replacing them?? Does anyone know?? Is this set in stone?? Can parents do anything??
Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Did any parents or teachers attend Wednesdays Board of Education meeting?
Fri May 29, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
the fun fair was different this year. And it wasn't much of a 'fun' fair. thanks to all the parents who volunteered. At least you tried to make it fun.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I understand a parent or some parents went and were told by Michael Scott that he does not want to hear about Gunsaulus anymore. So there ya go...Huberman's personal secretary was at school this week. Kotz led him around. He did not talk to any teachers. She "told" him all the great things she has done...choking now...and he was very impressed. So there ya go again...
Fri May 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Has she hired any new staff? and if so are their any prior connections with their "new boss"
Fri May 29, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Dear to retired, now you know CPS will not intercede! The ball is now in your court and expect no help from CPS!
Fri May 29, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
let me just say that the fun fair was a complete joke. the wheel of fortune was missing and that was my favorite game. the candy table was also removed and a lot of kids enjoy having that around so they will get all hyper and pepped up. also, i left my bag and prizes in class.oh well. and Am/Pm. if u read this i think everything you post is very informative.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Title Bilingual Teacher Assistant
Location Gunsaulus Scholastic Academy
4420 S. Sacramento Avenue
Chicago, IL 60632
773-535-7222 faxes only, no phone calls, please.
Position Number TBD
Position Value 1.0
Position Grade TBD
Budget Classification 225.52100.119015.00073.2010
Position Period School Year
Salary The minimum annual salary is: $ TBA
Position Summary Under the general direction of the school principal, and under the immediate
supervision of a teacher holding a valid state certificate directly engaged in teaching
subject matter or conducting activities, assists in the instruction of pupils in a
bilingual capacity in English and at least one other language; and performs related
duties as required.
Assists in the supervision of students during lunchroom and playground activities,
provides security functions within the school such as monitoring corridors and
reviewing student identification cards, assists students in understanding and
completing classroom assignments, assists teachers in preparing bulletin boards and
displaying students work in classrooms, operates photocopying and duplicating
machines to reproduce educational materials, assists in maintaining the orderly
arrangement of classrooms, greets and directs visitors to appropriate areas of the
school, consults with teachers regarding concerns of individual students, operates
audio-visual equipment such as video cassette recorders, movie projectors, film strip
projectors, tape recorders, and phonographs; provides tutoring services to students
under the supervision of the classroom teacher; assists in collecting and grading
students’ homework assignments and examination materials under the supervision
of the classroom teacher; assists in supervising the loading and unloading of
students on school busses; assists in the receipt, processing, and issuance of new
books under the supervision of the classroom teacher; collects daily classroom
absentee reports and contacts parents and guardians to verify causes of student
absences; may assist elementary school teachers with wraps and toilet recesses as
necessary; directly engaged in teaching subject matter or conducting activities,
assists in the instruction of pupils; performs related duties as required; and may
assist in the supervision of the school procedure to sell public transportation passes
to students. Must know student best practices, can work under the direction of the
teacher, works well with parents, positive and kind demeanor with children, willing to
work beyond the school day, and a team player. Minorities encouraged to apply.
Qualification Training and Experience. Completion of an Associate’s degree from a college or
university accredited by the North Central Association or another regional accrediting
body, or the successful completion of at least sixty (60) semester hours of college
credit at a college or university accredited by the North Central Association or
another regional accrediting body, or the successful completion of a state approved
paraprofessional assessment, and written and verbal proficiency in English and at
least one other language. (cont...)
19
Qualifications Knowledge, Abilities, and Skill. Good knowledge of proper grammar and spelling
in English and at least one other language, basic knowledge of mathematics,
knowledge of Chicago Public Schools rules and regulations.
Ability to work with and for school-aged children, ability to follow written and oral
instructions, ability to operate basic office equipment, ability to communicate
effectively with the public.
Good oral and written communication skills in English and at least one other
language, good reading skills, skill in operating audio-visual equipment and personal
computers is highly desirable.
BULLETIN NO: 383
DATE: MAY 27, 2009
Title School Clerk Assistant
Location Gunsaulus Scholastic Academy
4420 S. Sacramento Ave
Chicago, IL 60632
773-535-7222 fax
Please fax resume. No phone calls please.
Position Number TBD
Position Value 1.0
Position Grade TBD
Budget Classification 225.52100.241006.000703.2010
Position Period School year
Salary The minimum annual salary is: $ TBD
Position Summary Characteristics Of The Class: Under the general direction of the school principal,
performs any of several specialized clerical functions in a large public school facility,
or performs a variety of responsible clerical functions in a small public school facility;
and performs related duties as required.
ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS: Prepares and types a variety of original correspondence,
memorandums, and reports using either a personal computer or typewriter, as
directed by the school principal and/or the principal’s designee; opens, sorts, and
distributes incoming mail and school correspondence; serves as a receptionist and
greets and directs visitors to appropriate staff; schedules appointments for school
administrators; receives and places telephone calls for school personnel; responds
to inquiries from students, parents and guardians and the general public concerning
school operations and activities; maintains attendance records of students and staff;
processes and prepares payrolls for school personnel, both manually and by
operating computerized timekeeping and payroll equipment; maintains enrollment
records and processes student transfers; maintains student history records; prepares
and processes requisitions for the procurement of supplies, instructional materials,
furniture, and equipment; maintains and monitors the school’s petty cash and
internal account ledgers; issues checks and prepares money for deposits; receives
and compiles periodic reports involving payrolls, pupil attendance and enrollment,
various funds and account ledgers; compiles and forwards student transcripts to
appropriate parties; may take and transcribe dictation; may operate personal
computers utilizing spreadsheet, database, or other software applications.
Qualifications MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:
Training and Experience. Graduation from high school (or G.E.D. equivalent)
supplemented by one year of clerical work experience, and the ability to type 45
words per minute with fewer than 10 errors; or an equivalent combination of training
and experience. Knowledge, Abilities, and Skill. General knowledge of modern
clerical office methods, practices, and procedures; knowledge of common office
machines and equipment. Ability to apply general clerical office methods, practices,
and procedures; ability to follow oral and written instructions; ability to type
proficiently; ability to communicate effectively and tactfully with school personnel,
students, parents and guardians, and the general public; ability to operate personal
(cont...)
20
Qualifications computers utilizing word processing, spreadsheet, and database software is highly
desirable. Good oral and written communication skills, good skill in basic
mathematics, good interpersonal skills, good recordkeeping skills. Physical
Requirements. Sedentary Work: Exerting up to ten (10) pounds of force
occasionally and/or a negligible amount of force frequently to lift, carry, push, pull or
otherwise move objects. Sedentary work involves sitting most of the time, but may
involve walking or standing for brief periods of time.
Location Gunsaulus Scholastic Academy
4420 S. Sacramento Avenue
Chicago, IL 60632
773-535-7222 faxes only, no phone calls, please.
Position Number TBD
Position Value 1.0
Position Grade TBD
Budget Classification 225.52100.119015.00073.2010
Position Period School Year
Salary The minimum annual salary is: $ TBA
Position Summary Under the general direction of the school principal, and under the immediate
supervision of a teacher holding a valid state certificate directly engaged in teaching
subject matter or conducting activities, assists in the instruction of pupils in a
bilingual capacity in English and at least one other language; and performs related
duties as required.
Assists in the supervision of students during lunchroom and playground activities,
provides security functions within the school such as monitoring corridors and
reviewing student identification cards, assists students in understanding and
completing classroom assignments, assists teachers in preparing bulletin boards and
displaying students work in classrooms, operates photocopying and duplicating
machines to reproduce educational materials, assists in maintaining the orderly
arrangement of classrooms, greets and directs visitors to appropriate areas of the
school, consults with teachers regarding concerns of individual students, operates
audio-visual equipment such as video cassette recorders, movie projectors, film strip
projectors, tape recorders, and phonographs; provides tutoring services to students
under the supervision of the classroom teacher; assists in collecting and grading
students’ homework assignments and examination materials under the supervision
of the classroom teacher; assists in supervising the loading and unloading of
students on school busses; assists in the receipt, processing, and issuance of new
books under the supervision of the classroom teacher; collects daily classroom
absentee reports and contacts parents and guardians to verify causes of student
absences; may assist elementary school teachers with wraps and toilet recesses as
necessary; directly engaged in teaching subject matter or conducting activities,
assists in the instruction of pupils; performs related duties as required; and may
assist in the supervision of the school procedure to sell public transportation passes
to students. Must know student best practices, can work under the direction of the
teacher, works well with parents, positive and kind demeanor with children, willing to
work beyond the school day, and a team player. Minorities encouraged to apply.
Qualification Training and Experience. Completion of an Associate’s degree from a college or
university accredited by the North Central Association or another regional accrediting
body, or the successful completion of at least sixty (60) semester hours of college
credit at a college or university accredited by the North Central Association or
another regional accrediting body, or the successful completion of a state approved
paraprofessional assessment, and written and verbal proficiency in English and at
least one other language. (cont...)
19
Qualifications Knowledge, Abilities, and Skill. Good knowledge of proper grammar and spelling
in English and at least one other language, basic knowledge of mathematics,
knowledge of Chicago Public Schools rules and regulations.
Ability to work with and for school-aged children, ability to follow written and oral
instructions, ability to operate basic office equipment, ability to communicate
effectively with the public.
Good oral and written communication skills in English and at least one other
language, good reading skills, skill in operating audio-visual equipment and personal
computers is highly desirable.
BULLETIN NO: 383
DATE: MAY 27, 2009
Title School Clerk Assistant
Location Gunsaulus Scholastic Academy
4420 S. Sacramento Ave
Chicago, IL 60632
773-535-7222 fax
Please fax resume. No phone calls please.
Position Number TBD
Position Value 1.0
Position Grade TBD
Budget Classification 225.52100.241006.000703.2010
Position Period School year
Salary The minimum annual salary is: $ TBD
Position Summary Characteristics Of The Class: Under the general direction of the school principal,
performs any of several specialized clerical functions in a large public school facility,
or performs a variety of responsible clerical functions in a small public school facility;
and performs related duties as required.
ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS: Prepares and types a variety of original correspondence,
memorandums, and reports using either a personal computer or typewriter, as
directed by the school principal and/or the principal’s designee; opens, sorts, and
distributes incoming mail and school correspondence; serves as a receptionist and
greets and directs visitors to appropriate staff; schedules appointments for school
administrators; receives and places telephone calls for school personnel; responds
to inquiries from students, parents and guardians and the general public concerning
school operations and activities; maintains attendance records of students and staff;
processes and prepares payrolls for school personnel, both manually and by
operating computerized timekeeping and payroll equipment; maintains enrollment
records and processes student transfers; maintains student history records; prepares
and processes requisitions for the procurement of supplies, instructional materials,
furniture, and equipment; maintains and monitors the school’s petty cash and
internal account ledgers; issues checks and prepares money for deposits; receives
and compiles periodic reports involving payrolls, pupil attendance and enrollment,
various funds and account ledgers; compiles and forwards student transcripts to
appropriate parties; may take and transcribe dictation; may operate personal
computers utilizing spreadsheet, database, or other software applications.
Qualifications MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:
Training and Experience. Graduation from high school (or G.E.D. equivalent)
supplemented by one year of clerical work experience, and the ability to type 45
words per minute with fewer than 10 errors; or an equivalent combination of training
and experience. Knowledge, Abilities, and Skill. General knowledge of modern
clerical office methods, practices, and procedures; knowledge of common office
machines and equipment. Ability to apply general clerical office methods, practices,
and procedures; ability to follow oral and written instructions; ability to type
proficiently; ability to communicate effectively and tactfully with school personnel,
students, parents and guardians, and the general public; ability to operate personal
(cont...)
20
Qualifications computers utilizing word processing, spreadsheet, and database software is highly
desirable. Good oral and written communication skills, good skill in basic
mathematics, good interpersonal skills, good recordkeeping skills. Physical
Requirements. Sedentary Work: Exerting up to ten (10) pounds of force
occasionally and/or a negligible amount of force frequently to lift, carry, push, pull or
otherwise move objects. Sedentary work involves sitting most of the time, but may
involve walking or standing for brief periods of time.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:10 PM
sorry
im sorry that i said the fun fair was a joke. i really do appreciate all the parents that helped out. and also the eighth graders did a pretty good job of working the games. at least effort was put forth for the fun fair and i thank all the helpers for that. what i meant by my comment about the fun fair being a joke was that it could've been better. im sorry if i offended anybody.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
That job description sounds like the person we already have in the office that has been there for MANY years. Why is she being replaced? Oh wait...Amy did not hire her and she can get rid of her so she is getting rid of her. Yes, we need to find someone more qualified to push, pull, or lift that occasional 10 pounds of force. Those bulletin entries should be proof enough of what a whack job the principal is.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
the 10lbs. stuff and most of that ad is a template that HR MAKES you use. Blame the princpals for eveything--
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Parents did go to the board meeting on wednesday. Mike Scott told them to go to hell. I think they knew before going in that CPS would not be responsive. Not a hard thing to see because CPS has not responded to anything all year.
So here we are. The school year is ending. The teachers are all shuffled around like a deck of cards, and no one is happy. not studets. not parents. not teachers. Only Amy and Elba and Isabel are happy. They laugh and laugh at the rest of us jokers who try to use reason and logic and our intellect to change the world. And so here we are all of us just a bunch of suckers.
So here we are. The school year is ending. The teachers are all shuffled around like a deck of cards, and no one is happy. not studets. not parents. not teachers. Only Amy and Elba and Isabel are happy. They laugh and laugh at the rest of us jokers who try to use reason and logic and our intellect to change the world. And so here we are all of us just a bunch of suckers.
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
It is her fault that the ad is in there at all. We have a very hard working person already doing that job. Nobody would need to be hired if she weren't purging good staff members. Blame who deserves the blame...
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I have been getting calls from parents all night about the teacher shuffle...they are NOT happy and they are NOT going to give up...no matter what they are told. I love our parents!!
Fri May 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
At least I'm man enough to admit I'm afraid of Amy Kotz, not like that eunuch, Michael Scott! Oh, I know he looked all big and bad, sitting in his court, hurling insults at those ghetto moms. But what you couldn't see under the table was Scott wetting his pants at the mere thought of tangling with Krazy Kotz.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Applications for State Jobs
http://work.illinois.gov/
Hope this helps,
Love Ya,
Donna K
http://work.illinois.gov/
Hope this helps,
Love Ya,
Donna K
Sat May 30, 2009 at 7:31 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
which clerk is being replaced? I don't believe this. The positon name for principals should be changed to dictators!
Sat May 30, 2009 at 7:35 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
THanks donna for the information I hope there is no retaliation for giving some of us a lead on new jobs.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 7:48 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Margaret is leaving the office. Ms. Love and Ms. K are also leaving. They all lost their jobs the last time the LSC voted to change the school improvement plan. It is not just Amy getting rid of people. the LSC helps her do it by voting for whatever she wants. Remember these names for the next LSC election and vote them out Reed Finelli, John White, Maria Sudikis, Crystal Wright, Dorothy Metusik, Renee Costansa Judy Esco, Rosario Canizeles, and too bad we can't vote out Amy. and another thing. i keep hearing that Amy says all the parents love her. Then why did the students have to help with the fun fair? where are all of the parents who love her so much, and why dont they help with things at the school. if the bac and nclb and pto parents love her so much then why do our kids have to work at the fun fair.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 8:01 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Its been 10 minutes since someone posted anything about this school. I just didn't want to feel left out. hello everyone have a blessed day. Here is a verse from my favorite song:
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
Preacherman, dont tell me,
Heaven is under the earth.
I know you dont know
What life is really worth.
Its not all that glitters is gold
;
alf the story has never been told:
So now you see the light, eh!
Stand up for your rights. come on!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
Most people think,
Great God will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. jah!
Get up, stand up! (jah, jah!)
Stand up for your rights! (oh-hoo!)
Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!)
Dont give up the fight! (life is your right!)
Get up, stand up! (so we cant give up the fight!)
Stand up for your rights! (lord, lord!)
Get up, stand up! (keep on struggling on!)
Dont give up the fight! (yeah!)
We sick an tired of-a your ism-skism game -
Dyin n goin to heaven in-a jesus name, lord.
We know when we understand:
Almighty God is a living man.
You can fool some people sometimes,
But you cant fool all the people all the time.
So now we see the light (what you gonna do? ),
We gonna stand up for our rights! (yeah, yeah, yeah!)
So you better:
Get up, stand up! (in the morning! git it up!)
Stand up for your rights! (stand up for our rights!)
Get up, stand up!
Dont give up the fight! (dont give it up, dont give it up!)
Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!)
Stand up for your rights! (get up, stand up!)
Get up, stand up! ( ... )
Dont give up the fight! (get up, stand up!)
Get up, stand up! ( ... )
Stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up!
Dont give up the fight! /fadeout
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
Preacherman, dont tell me,
Heaven is under the earth.
I know you dont know
What life is really worth.
Its not all that glitters is gold
;
alf the story has never been told:
So now you see the light, eh!
Stand up for your rights. come on!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!
Most people think,
Great God will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. jah!
Get up, stand up! (jah, jah!)
Stand up for your rights! (oh-hoo!)
Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!)
Dont give up the fight! (life is your right!)
Get up, stand up! (so we cant give up the fight!)
Stand up for your rights! (lord, lord!)
Get up, stand up! (keep on struggling on!)
Dont give up the fight! (yeah!)
We sick an tired of-a your ism-skism game -
Dyin n goin to heaven in-a jesus name, lord.
We know when we understand:
Almighty God is a living man.
You can fool some people sometimes,
But you cant fool all the people all the time.
So now we see the light (what you gonna do? ),
We gonna stand up for our rights! (yeah, yeah, yeah!)
So you better:
Get up, stand up! (in the morning! git it up!)
Stand up for your rights! (stand up for our rights!)
Get up, stand up!
Dont give up the fight! (dont give it up, dont give it up!)
Get up, stand up! (get up, stand up!)
Stand up for your rights! (get up, stand up!)
Get up, stand up! ( ... )
Dont give up the fight! (get up, stand up!)
Get up, stand up! ( ... )
Stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up!
Dont give up the fight! /fadeout
Sat May 30, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I like Bob Marley Just Because: How about we meet up and smoke a big fatty today? That should make our problems go away at our school. JAH MAN!
Sat May 30, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I heard that Dr canizales is leaving ne xt year anyway. Ms. Love is a beautiful person inside and out, and so is ms. K why would someone fire these people who are so dedicated and committed to their job. MY hearts goes out to them. Any place would be so lucky to have them in their presence. Good luck if this is true. and if it is no one will be spared in the wrath of this new administration. IF THey could kick out the students they would!!! how horrible
Sat May 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
...and they would kick out the parents too. Amy's ideal workplace would be her, Elba, the minions, Fanelli and a big building empty of teachers, students and parents.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM
To: What (Fri May 29, 2009 at 6:50) & other parents
"Can parents do anything??"
YES! If you don't understand something that is being done, question Kotz, if you still don't understand, question Mesa Collins, if you still don't understand, question Liberto, question Eason-Watkins, question Huberman. My point is go up the chain, if necessary all the way to Michael Scott. Also, question the LSC and those who vote consistently with the Chair. They are there to raise questions, not just to vote with him. They are there because you voted them in. They are elected officials and must be reminded of that.
Currently it is only two parents that have been complaining to the Board, it is starting to look like it is just these two parents who are not "happy" with the decisions that are being made. Please support your children, support your teachers, teacher aides and special ed, most importantly support each other.
All the issues being raised here in this blog are weightless if you do not raise them with Kotz and the others.
Remember - "A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead
YES! If you don't understand something that is being done, question Kotz, if you still don't understand, question Mesa Collins, if you still don't understand, question Liberto, question Eason-Watkins, question Huberman. My point is go up the chain, if necessary all the way to Michael Scott. Also, question the LSC and those who vote consistently with the Chair. They are there to raise questions, not just to vote with him. They are there because you voted them in. They are elected officials and must be reminded of that.
Currently it is only two parents that have been complaining to the Board, it is starting to look like it is just these two parents who are not "happy" with the decisions that are being made. Please support your children, support your teachers, teacher aides and special ed, most importantly support each other.
All the issues being raised here in this blog are weightless if you do not raise them with Kotz and the others.
Remember - "A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead
Sat May 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Adams, Coronado, Love, Kapustanyk, Kuppelberg, Jones, Senka, Wilmes, Reiser, Deerfield, Le...All of these fine people are African American, White, or Asian...
How come only non-hispanic, non-spanish speaking people are losing their jobs, while only Hispanics are being hired? How come the only non-tenured teacher to keep their job was Hispanic? Aren't there laws about this type of thing? Gunsaulus is not a bilingual only school, right? I thought it was a diverse magnet school serving Hispanic, African American, White, and Asian students. This confuses me that in this day and age this kind of prejudicial hiring and firing is allowed, let alone tolerated by any type of organization. Has anyone grieved this???
How come only non-hispanic, non-spanish speaking people are losing their jobs, while only Hispanics are being hired? How come the only non-tenured teacher to keep their job was Hispanic? Aren't there laws about this type of thing? Gunsaulus is not a bilingual only school, right? I thought it was a diverse magnet school serving Hispanic, African American, White, and Asian students. This confuses me that in this day and age this kind of prejudicial hiring and firing is allowed, let alone tolerated by any type of organization. Has anyone grieved this???
Sat May 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I applaud you Concerned Parent for your comments. Finally, someone to speak the truth. There are only a few parents complaining. They are probably using different names to voice their concerns. There are things you can do.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Let's not forget Lucille the office clerk, Dortch the security guard, Marty Black our amazing art teacher, Reggie from the lunch staff, and now Margaret K. in the office - a WHOLE LOTTA non-hispanics who were also let go. Kotz - get a clue! You aren't a boricua or a mami chula. You are WHITE! Stop being so racist towards non-hispanics
Sat May 30, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes...I forgot those wonderful people. This is all just so unjustified...and sad. She is out of control and nobody wants to take control of her. Horrible people.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I'm not from there. Please decipher. Can you answer the question (without code)?
Sat May 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
What happened to Reggie from the lunchroom? Why was he fired?
Sat May 30, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Kotz is not Hispanic, and she is not in UNO's hip pocket. She is in Elba Pluas' hip pocket. Does anyone know if Pluas has a relationship with UNO?
Sat May 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
What does this have to do with UNO? She's also in Fanelli's back pocket as well.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Thank You Wrote--
I applaud you Concerned Parent for your comments. Finally, someone to speak the truth. There are only a few parents complaining. They are probably using different names to voice their concerns. There are things you can do.
so what can we do?
I applaud you Concerned Parent for your comments. Finally, someone to speak the truth. There are only a few parents complaining. They are probably using different names to voice their concerns. There are things you can do.
so what can we do?
Sat May 30, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
is everyone mentioned above by just wondering being let go? this is so inhumane. Doesn't she realize these people are great workers and have families. This is their livelihood. This school is multicultural decorated with all races under god, not just hispanics. Oh my god what did these people do to deserve this? Ms wilmes ms deerfield ms senka, She must be deranged to let teachers this great go!
Sat May 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
AND BE ABOUT IT!
we must do something about this lunatic of a principal. If we rally the parents the teachers and the esp staff start a petition listing our concerns and take it to the media outlets the board and anyone else who can get our story out there lets do it. the staff whose job is secure can send letters to the board directly I understand that they need their jobs.
WE NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND BE ABOUT IT!
SHE IS FIRING SOME OF OUR BEST STAFF!
THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT!
OUR SCHOOL WASN'T ON WARNING OR PROBATION!
IF WE DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING WE WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING!
ALL THIS WASTELESS ENERGY CAN BE PUT INTO ACTION!
we must do something about this lunatic of a principal. If we rally the parents the teachers and the esp staff start a petition listing our concerns and take it to the media outlets the board and anyone else who can get our story out there lets do it. the staff whose job is secure can send letters to the board directly I understand that they need their jobs.
WE NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND BE ABOUT IT!
SHE IS FIRING SOME OF OUR BEST STAFF!
THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT!
OUR SCHOOL WASN'T ON WARNING OR PROBATION!
IF WE DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING WE WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING!
ALL THIS WASTELESS ENERGY CAN BE PUT INTO ACTION!
Sat May 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes...they are all leaving. I don't think there are any teachers that are not looking for other employment now. After Kotz's whacked out grade assignments for next year. She is hiring two new 8th grade teachers, the 6th grade teacher is in kindergarten, the 5th grade teacher is in Pre-K, a 3rd grade teacher to 6th grade Science, and and 8th grade teacher moved to 1st grade. She is obviously trying to push all the veteran teachers out by screwing with them. I hope theyare strong enough to put up with her and stick around...the people she has hired so far are less than stellar and a scary sign of things to come...
Sat May 30, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
They can file a CTU grievance if the moves are without reasons. Does NCLB play into the moves? All deparmentalized teachers must be endorsed in the area they are teaching-effective 2009....
Preference sheets are used for a reason-get an attorney-file a group lawsuit...walk the walk...
Preference sheets are used for a reason-get an attorney-file a group lawsuit...walk the walk...
Sat May 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
i don't know each teachers situation. If someone knows the answer to : are the teachers that are departmentalized certified to teach that subject? If not couldn't she have put them in a pre - k to 4th grade classroom?
Sat May 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
get gale to do this--pleeeeaaaassse!
First, your LSC gave up a great principal last year and YOU let them.
Second, if you do not think that CPS monitors or at least reviews what is on this string--you are dead WRONG!
So CPS reads your outlandish and over the top comments and tells Michael Scott the choice details--even gives him selected versions of what is said. And then you wonder why when you go to board meetings, he treats you with disdain!
Use you energy to run a slate for LSC on your OWN blog.
All this emotion. Why don't you just THINK. Creat you own blog already. You are becomming a laughing stock at CPS and this blog--don't you see this?
First, your LSC gave up a great principal last year and YOU let them.
Second, if you do not think that CPS monitors or at least reviews what is on this string--you are dead WRONG!
So CPS reads your outlandish and over the top comments and tells Michael Scott the choice details--even gives him selected versions of what is said. And then you wonder why when you go to board meetings, he treats you with disdain!
Use you energy to run a slate for LSC on your OWN blog.
All this emotion. Why don't you just THINK. Creat you own blog already. You are becomming a laughing stock at CPS and this blog--don't you see this?
Sat May 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
All teachers moved from departmental are endorsed in their subject areas (some endorsed in all) and are NCLB Highly Qualified. They did not have to be moved to primary grade levels. She is simply f***ing with them.
And to the person calling us "yahoos" it would easier for you to find a different blog to read. We are not laughing stocks and anything we can do expose Kotz's wrongdoings we will do it. We will blog everywhere. You, by the way, continue to sound very intellectually challenged. Why do you keep calling everyone "Gale"? You need to THINK. You need to start your own blog about how you love and support clearly one of the worst principals to ever darken a school door. Leave us alone...
And to the person calling us "yahoos" it would easier for you to find a different blog to read. We are not laughing stocks and anything we can do expose Kotz's wrongdoings we will do it. We will blog everywhere. You, by the way, continue to sound very intellectually challenged. Why do you keep calling everyone "Gale"? You need to THINK. You need to start your own blog about how you love and support clearly one of the worst principals to ever darken a school door. Leave us alone...
Sat May 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Is Kotz out of her mind? She is wrecking the entire school.
What's all this stuff about being Hispanic and all that? Is all that true? Does that mean that I will be kicked out of school just because of my heritage? Yes, I am not Hispanic, nor do I speak Spanish.
The next issue, the security guard. Remember, Mr. D is only on suspension. He is NOT fired, yet. Within one month, we have experienced TWO security guards. The new one, Anthony Garcia, his name is already on the school website's staff list. Remember, Mr. D, still on suspension, NOT fired.
On the staff list, we have 90 staff members. 90? Do we need that many?
I can't believe Kotz is firing the teachers, just because they don't speak Spanish. Hello, wait a minute... Hola? I mean, Kotz isn't Hispanic either. She might be able to speak Spanish. But, do you think everyone else can speak it? Just remember, this is a magnet school, which has students and staff of ALL races. This is not a neighborhood school, which it will probably be with Kotz in charge.
School doesn't feel right. Do you know the Kindergarten and 1st grade rooms are seperated? One room is filled with all Hispanic students. The other, all the other students of different races. Anything else to point out, their teachers are bilingual... Coincidence? I don't think so. Especially in 101, that teacher is definetly not well in English. She speaks Spanish all the time. It doesn't seem like Kindergarten, it seems like Spanish school. How can these young children learn English if they're stuck with hearing Spanish everywhere, at home and at school?
Anyway, Kotz, please change all these problems. I'm glad that I have only but one year left to stay in this school. This school is going down like the economy. Speaking of the economy, do you know how much the school is wasting? It had a FREE fun fair. What's the cost of those prizes and games? A lot, I bet. And, always hiring new staff. Hello? We do a have a budget.
What's all this stuff about being Hispanic and all that? Is all that true? Does that mean that I will be kicked out of school just because of my heritage? Yes, I am not Hispanic, nor do I speak Spanish.
The next issue, the security guard. Remember, Mr. D is only on suspension. He is NOT fired, yet. Within one month, we have experienced TWO security guards. The new one, Anthony Garcia, his name is already on the school website's staff list. Remember, Mr. D, still on suspension, NOT fired.
On the staff list, we have 90 staff members. 90? Do we need that many?
I can't believe Kotz is firing the teachers, just because they don't speak Spanish. Hello, wait a minute... Hola? I mean, Kotz isn't Hispanic either. She might be able to speak Spanish. But, do you think everyone else can speak it? Just remember, this is a magnet school, which has students and staff of ALL races. This is not a neighborhood school, which it will probably be with Kotz in charge.
School doesn't feel right. Do you know the Kindergarten and 1st grade rooms are seperated? One room is filled with all Hispanic students. The other, all the other students of different races. Anything else to point out, their teachers are bilingual... Coincidence? I don't think so. Especially in 101, that teacher is definetly not well in English. She speaks Spanish all the time. It doesn't seem like Kindergarten, it seems like Spanish school. How can these young children learn English if they're stuck with hearing Spanish everywhere, at home and at school?
Anyway, Kotz, please change all these problems. I'm glad that I have only but one year left to stay in this school. This school is going down like the economy. Speaking of the economy, do you know how much the school is wasting? It had a FREE fun fair. What's the cost of those prizes and games? A lot, I bet. And, always hiring new staff. Hello? We do a have a budget.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Michael Scott treats everyone with disdain. His job is to divert public input into Public Education. The idea that some anonymous commentary on a blog warrants him ignoring children in need is unfortunate.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
To Am/Pm
Just to let you know, Mr. D isnt coming back to Gunsaulus ever again. His suspension is stupid and I think Kotz got some way to get rid of him so he never come back. Remember our teacher told us. I wont say who it is but they said that Dortch is never coming back here.
Just to let you know, Mr. D isnt coming back to Gunsaulus ever again. His suspension is stupid and I think Kotz got some way to get rid of him so he never come back. Remember our teacher told us. I wont say who it is but they said that Dortch is never coming back here.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You may not be yahoos, but, if indeed, if the parents are as united as you say, then why not do something (legal and peaceful) that will grab the attention you need. A march, a protest, something that when the media latches on, Ron will have no choice but to act. Do something.
So far, what I have heard is a lot of impotent rage.
So far, what I have heard is a lot of impotent rage.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I agree with impotent rage. Stop talking about and be about it!
Sat May 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
That's just bull. Mr. D was the best security guard. I liked that he was tough, but he had that sense of humor in him. He was great. Sure miss him.
This suspension is outrageous. Why does Kotz suspend someone that's so good? Is she racist or something? Is she prejudice against people? Why must she favor the Hispanic race, when Gunsaulus is a melting pot of all cultures. She's not even Hispanic! That's pretty lame.
The school might be situated in a mostly-Hispanic neighborhood. So what? Does that make this a Hispanic school? NO! Remember, all cultures are welcomed here!
Since Gunsaulus is turning so much into a Hispanic school, it's name will change, too. Pretty soon, under Kotz's lame leadership, it will become Gonzalez Neighborhood School. I think we were better off being named after that White guy.
Next point, Huberman. The only good thing he's good at- controlling CPS school buses. I heard he's afraid of little old Kotz. What a wuss. Does he know how to run CPS? Maybe he's the reason why teachers are getting fired. The budget is outrageous! Wow. Huberman is scared of Kotz, and Kotz is scared of upper graders. LAME!
So, I'm in a school with pathetic adminstrators who don't know what they're doing. And then there's Fanelli. Without Fanelli, Kotz will be in trouble. Fanelli tells Kotz things, and she does them.
Anyone in favor of protest? Mrs. Suwe, we need your help!
So, anyway, these dimwits have to go. I can't stand them anymore. Thank God. Two more weeks.
This suspension is outrageous. Why does Kotz suspend someone that's so good? Is she racist or something? Is she prejudice against people? Why must she favor the Hispanic race, when Gunsaulus is a melting pot of all cultures. She's not even Hispanic! That's pretty lame.
The school might be situated in a mostly-Hispanic neighborhood. So what? Does that make this a Hispanic school? NO! Remember, all cultures are welcomed here!
Since Gunsaulus is turning so much into a Hispanic school, it's name will change, too. Pretty soon, under Kotz's lame leadership, it will become Gonzalez Neighborhood School. I think we were better off being named after that White guy.
Next point, Huberman. The only good thing he's good at- controlling CPS school buses. I heard he's afraid of little old Kotz. What a wuss. Does he know how to run CPS? Maybe he's the reason why teachers are getting fired. The budget is outrageous! Wow. Huberman is scared of Kotz, and Kotz is scared of upper graders. LAME!
So, I'm in a school with pathetic adminstrators who don't know what they're doing. And then there's Fanelli. Without Fanelli, Kotz will be in trouble. Fanelli tells Kotz things, and she does them.
Anyone in favor of protest? Mrs. Suwe, we need your help!
So, anyway, these dimwits have to go. I can't stand them anymore. Thank God. Two more weeks.
Sat May 30, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The reason Dragon Lady wants the school to turn total bilingual is because then she will get more money in her paycheck. I can even bet that the school will become over crowded in the next three years. The more kids the more money she makes. The more bilingual classrooms the more money she makes. She is not in this for anyone but her own bank account. Take note bilingual teachers, aides, students, and parents, she does not care about you. She is making money off of you. She is just making you feel important until she can drop the hammer on you and you have no where else to go. So you may think what you wish but you are going to feel her sting eventually.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
What exactly are the rules for placing teachers? I thought I read earlier in this blog that there has to be some justification for it, according to NCLB?
Sun May 31, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
And so the cycle of the blog has moved to rage again. I have refrained from posting, and have just been reading and observing over the last few days to see what would transpire.
Yes, you say you are angry. Yes, you are quite happy with posting anonymous comments, from the spectrum of profound to the ridiculous. Yes, you say you want action.
But, who are you? Are you all the same person? Are you all one student? One parent? One teacher? You are all willing to complain about Kotz, but no one will identify themselves. Only Gaby and I are willing to put our names and faces out there.
I can understand why teachers might want to remain anonymous, given the risk to their jobs. The students, to me, are a non-issue, because I don't believe children should be use to futher adult agendas.
But I don't understand parents' wish to remain anonymous. What are the parents afraid of? You are all too happy to complain anonymously or whisper at a school function while looking over your shoulder to see who is listening.
You KNOW what parents can do. They can band together. They can be adult enough to state their objections intelligently. They can be mature enough to stand up, say who they are, and take a stand.
I have stated this many times both here in the blog and on the playground-words mean little if you are not willing to stand up, identify yourself, and take an action.
For months and months and months, Kotz has been making the claim to the school, the AIO, and CPS brass that the parents are squarely behind her. Fanelli makes the claim that the school is in favor of the LSC. Perhaps they are correct. What other conclusion can one make, given the amount of parents who stand up and do anything where they will be indentified? The record shows that only Gaby and I are dissatisfied. Why would anyone at CPS act due to two angry moms?
From the beginning, I have stated my observations, and questioned practices and decisions, and did not try to hide who I am. How many of you parents have done the same? How many of you come to the LSC meetings? How many of you came with us to the BOE meeting? Maybe everyone really IS happy with the administration.
I close by saying this. Don't bother complaining in this blog, on the playground, or to me unless you are willing to stand up, state your name, and state your case. I have no interest in idle chatter and gossip.
Parents, your actions lead everyone to believe that it is just Gaby and I who are upset. Where in the record is there data that shows that the school is NOT in favor of Kotz? Yes, many of you came to the March LSC meeting and booed. Big deal. Where have you been since then? Where wer you at the April LSC meeting? Where were you at the May LSC meeting? Where are you now? If you do not stand up, then there is no evidence to show that the parents are not in support of the adminsitration.
I am not interested to organize students or teachers. Students should not be used as pawns, and teachers have their own union.
You all know where to find me if you are willing to do something besides complain under pseudonyms.
Gale
Yes, you say you are angry. Yes, you are quite happy with posting anonymous comments, from the spectrum of profound to the ridiculous. Yes, you say you want action.
But, who are you? Are you all the same person? Are you all one student? One parent? One teacher? You are all willing to complain about Kotz, but no one will identify themselves. Only Gaby and I are willing to put our names and faces out there.
I can understand why teachers might want to remain anonymous, given the risk to their jobs. The students, to me, are a non-issue, because I don't believe children should be use to futher adult agendas.
But I don't understand parents' wish to remain anonymous. What are the parents afraid of? You are all too happy to complain anonymously or whisper at a school function while looking over your shoulder to see who is listening.
You KNOW what parents can do. They can band together. They can be adult enough to state their objections intelligently. They can be mature enough to stand up, say who they are, and take a stand.
I have stated this many times both here in the blog and on the playground-words mean little if you are not willing to stand up, identify yourself, and take an action.
For months and months and months, Kotz has been making the claim to the school, the AIO, and CPS brass that the parents are squarely behind her. Fanelli makes the claim that the school is in favor of the LSC. Perhaps they are correct. What other conclusion can one make, given the amount of parents who stand up and do anything where they will be indentified? The record shows that only Gaby and I are dissatisfied. Why would anyone at CPS act due to two angry moms?
From the beginning, I have stated my observations, and questioned practices and decisions, and did not try to hide who I am. How many of you parents have done the same? How many of you come to the LSC meetings? How many of you came with us to the BOE meeting? Maybe everyone really IS happy with the administration.
I close by saying this. Don't bother complaining in this blog, on the playground, or to me unless you are willing to stand up, state your name, and state your case. I have no interest in idle chatter and gossip.
Parents, your actions lead everyone to believe that it is just Gaby and I who are upset. Where in the record is there data that shows that the school is NOT in favor of Kotz? Yes, many of you came to the March LSC meeting and booed. Big deal. Where have you been since then? Where wer you at the April LSC meeting? Where were you at the May LSC meeting? Where are you now? If you do not stand up, then there is no evidence to show that the parents are not in support of the adminsitration.
I am not interested to organize students or teachers. Students should not be used as pawns, and teachers have their own union.
You all know where to find me if you are willing to do something besides complain under pseudonyms.
Gale
Sun May 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Okay, if you are not in favor of Kotz, then let us work harder to remove her. We are fighting a common enemy. If you are fighting in a war, you wouldn't want your soldiers fighting amongst you. Kotz is probably laughing while reading this. She thinks she is the best. Yet, no one works together to show her she is not. If you are a parent, then what do you have to be scared of. Put your name on this blog. I, as a student cant because it wouldnt be worth it.
To Ms. Suwe, How about an afterschool protest? I will try to approach you if I have time. Get back to this idea as soon as possible.
To Ms. Suwe, How about an afterschool protest? I will try to approach you if I have time. Get back to this idea as soon as possible.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Gale, this must be so disheartening for you. So many are so called behind you, yet you stand alone. I am truly sorry. You are a hero, but that can be so lonely.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
If one believes in what one does, there should be no question of giving up or not proceeding. Fighting for most things is a lonely, up hill battle, where the majority will not support you, but will thank you for your courage and for successful change. This blog is a detriment to any anticipated success in what can be done. It is not neccessarily the anonymous nature of the blogging itself, it is the lack of intelligence and grace that is coming across in many of the posts, so one begins to not take any of it seriously. Another serious misconception is that historically Gunsaulus has been a wonderful place with only huge successes for students and teachers. This is very far from the truth. I personally had some involvement with Gunsaulus several years ago and my impression of it was that it was a mediocre, at best, environment with many inflated egos and not much tolerance for anything or anyone that varied from the conformity of the status quo, which, again in my opionion, was extremely outdated in many social and academic areas.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
From above:
To Ms. Suwe, How about an afterschool protest? I will try to approach you if I have time.
IF I HAVE TIME!
There ii is. You loose.
To Ms. Suwe, How about an afterschool protest? I will try to approach you if I have time.
IF I HAVE TIME!
There ii is. You loose.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Our demise becasue a thirteen year old says if he has time?? Can you not tell and adult post from a child? It even says it from a student. Why are you so excited at the unhappiness of others. By the way...people do not "loose" they "lose" and we aren't done yet.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
how do you know it is a child? Gale is right! She is out there alone. you are getting what you deserve. move on.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"I, as a student would..." because he says he is a student and because the teachers know the kids that post. So look in the mirror...you are the only idiot here. Move on.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes, I am a student. The student who posted his full name a month back. But lets not argue. You are adults but still acting like children. I want to know if Ms. Suwe wants to protest, thats it. Its funny how this blog makes us fight like 5 year olds.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes, let's protest. Let's meet Friday at 1:30 just in time for dismissal in front of school. Pass the word. We will have a peaceful demonstration on Friday. This is our last chance. Make phone calls, talk to other parents. Let's unite.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
And you as a student need to learn to deal with people with some level of respect. Do you realize that it is the teachers that take the hit when students post on this blog? The principal thinks that teachers are telling you what to say and what to do. The teachers have enough to deal with without having to carry the blame for your outrageous statements. You and your friends need to stop feeding the fire and let adults handle adult problems.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I just want to let you people know that i just had an idea. I didnt really think of this seriously. It was nothing but a suggestion and I dont support a protest now. And its the end of the year and it could calm down next year.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Who made you the blog police? He/she has the same freedom of speech that you have. I am impressed by a student with such spirit.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
VIDEO'S WITH MEANIING!!!
Red, White, and Pink Slip Blues
http://wycd.com/Hank-Williams-Jr-----Red--White--and-Pink-Slip-Blu/4204242
Shutting Detroit Down
http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2009/04/shutting-detroit-down-video.html
Signed,
Gone
Red, White, and Pink Slip Blues
http://wycd.com/Hank-Williams-Jr-----Red--White--and-Pink-Slip-Blu/4204242
Shutting Detroit Down
http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2009/04/shutting-detroit-down-video.html
Signed,
Gone
Sun May 31, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"Warriors" says our blog lacks intelligence and grace.
First of all, most of the idiotic statements on this blog come from the Fanelli-Kotz camp. Seriously, scrutinize this blog carefully and you'll see that. Admittedly, there are some posts from the "right side" that are a bit crude, including my own. But that leads to my next point.
You've compared this to a war, and notwithstanding war movies that glorify war, there's nothing pretty about it. We're fighting sewer rats--that's what the Fanelli-Kotz gang are--and sometimes we have to climb in the sewer to hunt them down.
And what's the problem with "To Alias"? The students are directly affected by the actions of Fanelli-Kotz and have their strong opinions, which I often find to be more insightful and informative than many of the adults. What's the point in teaching these kids critical thinking skills and the American vaues of democracy if we're going to shut them out of the process?
And as for the kids showing respect, adults don't get respect by virtue of being an adult. Every good teacher knows they have to earn the respect of their students. Kotz never earned the respect of the Gunsaulus students. On the contrary, she has lied to them, double-dealt with them, acted inconsistently and inappropriatly with them, and made them feel just as disenfranchised in their own school as the parents and teachers feel. The students are perceptive enough to know her measure--she is nothing more than a school-yard bully--and they will respond to her accordingly.
As early as last fall she showed her true colors to the students with her Grinch routine when she tried to steal Christmas. It wasn't just that she was taking away a holiday celebration, but she would not even entertain a civil discussion with students about it and felt she owed them no explanation or justification. And the fact that she holds some fancy certificates and degrees and so "knows what's best" does not mean she doesn't owe the students the courtesy of an explanation.
But that's not how tyrants or school yard bullies act.
First of all, most of the idiotic statements on this blog come from the Fanelli-Kotz camp. Seriously, scrutinize this blog carefully and you'll see that. Admittedly, there are some posts from the "right side" that are a bit crude, including my own. But that leads to my next point.
You've compared this to a war, and notwithstanding war movies that glorify war, there's nothing pretty about it. We're fighting sewer rats--that's what the Fanelli-Kotz gang are--and sometimes we have to climb in the sewer to hunt them down.
And what's the problem with "To Alias"? The students are directly affected by the actions of Fanelli-Kotz and have their strong opinions, which I often find to be more insightful and informative than many of the adults. What's the point in teaching these kids critical thinking skills and the American vaues of democracy if we're going to shut them out of the process?
And as for the kids showing respect, adults don't get respect by virtue of being an adult. Every good teacher knows they have to earn the respect of their students. Kotz never earned the respect of the Gunsaulus students. On the contrary, she has lied to them, double-dealt with them, acted inconsistently and inappropriatly with them, and made them feel just as disenfranchised in their own school as the parents and teachers feel. The students are perceptive enough to know her measure--she is nothing more than a school-yard bully--and they will respond to her accordingly.
As early as last fall she showed her true colors to the students with her Grinch routine when she tried to steal Christmas. It wasn't just that she was taking away a holiday celebration, but she would not even entertain a civil discussion with students about it and felt she owed them no explanation or justification. And the fact that she holds some fancy certificates and degrees and so "knows what's best" does not mean she doesn't owe the students the courtesy of an explanation.
But that's not how tyrants or school yard bullies act.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 8:14 PM
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Ms. Kotz fits the definition of a bully---especially with the staff. The more she gets away with, the more manipulative and bullyish she becomes.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 9:23 PM
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Some interesting points being made I'd like to elaborate on. Sometimes this blog does get crude. What we're seeing is the level of frustration felt by parents, teachers, staff, and students being expressed in the only venue available. Some even ridiculed this blog as a therapeutic outlet.
Disenfranchised. Good word choice. At every level in the Board Bureaucracy, from the Area Chair to Ron Freakin' Huberman, we are consistently met with indifference, disbelief, arrogance, and hostility in their continuous protection and defense of the indefensible. Frustrated? You bet!
Mayor Daley has lamented that professionals move out of the city as soon as they become parents. Here's a clue, Richie: Suburban parents are not ignored, or worse, treated with disdain. Suburban administrations would never tolerate the levels of mismanagement and criminal actions on the part of a principal that Gunsaulus parents & teachers have borne.
Therapy session? Crude? Lack of grace? You're lucky there hasn't been a storming of the Bastille yet.
Yet.
Disenfranchised. Good word choice. At every level in the Board Bureaucracy, from the Area Chair to Ron Freakin' Huberman, we are consistently met with indifference, disbelief, arrogance, and hostility in their continuous protection and defense of the indefensible. Frustrated? You bet!
Mayor Daley has lamented that professionals move out of the city as soon as they become parents. Here's a clue, Richie: Suburban parents are not ignored, or worse, treated with disdain. Suburban administrations would never tolerate the levels of mismanagement and criminal actions on the part of a principal that Gunsaulus parents & teachers have borne.
Therapy session? Crude? Lack of grace? You're lucky there hasn't been a storming of the Bastille yet.
Yet.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 10:14 PM
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I must retract a statement made in the last posting. I used the terms "criminal actions." CPS bureaucrats have been quick to point out that, while there's plenty of mismanagement, technically, Kotz & Fanelli have not broken any laws. Not technically.
Forgeries, cover-ups, intimidation, closed-door LSC meetings, falsifying discilpinary reports, false-alarm calls to the police, false accusations made to DCFS and the Inspector General, ethnic & linguistic discrimination in hiring & firing, etc.
So, were any laws broken? Technically, it depends on what the definition of "is" is.
Forgeries, cover-ups, intimidation, closed-door LSC meetings, falsifying discilpinary reports, false-alarm calls to the police, false accusations made to DCFS and the Inspector General, ethnic & linguistic discrimination in hiring & firing, etc.
So, were any laws broken? Technically, it depends on what the definition of "is" is.
Sun May 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
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that whites in their CPS schools are being treated like latinos and Blacks have been treated by the mayor. Willthe white folk give up onhim and vote for a minority candidate--i doubt it. You will just be silenced like we are.
Mon Jun 1, 2009 at 7:36 AM
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Well, it appears it's both whites and blacks who are targeted at Gunsaulus, in favor of Spanish-speaking Hispanics. This nicely fits the theory that Kotz & Fanelli are driving toward a community school. The sad reality is, there are no other selective enrollment alternatives on the southwest side.
Mon Jun 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM
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Yes, I agree we should protest. But, not in front of just Gunsaulus but at 125 south clark also. SHOULD THE BLACKS LEAVE THE SCHOOL TOTALLY.I really feel bad for my kids. I am scared if I say something they would be punished by Kotz and her crew. alot of parents work. mAYBE WE CAN MEET ON THE WEEKEND SOME WHERE. Do anyone know EASON-WATKINS EMAIL?
Mon Jun 1, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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A protest will do no good unless people see it. Alert the media...if they have ignored you in the past, bother them until they speak to you. Screw Michael Scott...he is unhappy in his own job and does not care about anyone else. What people thought would get better has simply gotten worse. She moved almost all of the teachers out of their specialties. 8th to first, 6th to K, 5th to pre-k, K to 4th, 3rd to 6th and on and on and on. The ONLY people who got what they wanted are the people she has hired or who are friends of Finelli. I hope the Gunsaulus teachers are preparing their grievances...this is a blatant refusal to follow sections 40-1 thru 3 in your union contract. She is using this to get you to leave. Gunsaulus parents, these are your children. Organize, yell, scream, question until someone steps up for the good of your kids. It sounds like Gunsaulus follows a "Children Last" policy now. So very sad.
Mon Jun 1, 2009 at 8:25 PM
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To "Warriors"
I read your post, and have to agree with you on one point. I, too, find many of these posts tasteless and pointless. I don't understand what people think they will achieve by calling BOE members names, and insulting each other. I understand the anger and frustration that many are feeling, but I don't feel that justifies bad behavior.
As to your other point about the mediocrity and preference for the status quo at Gunsaulus, I can comment to a degree. Last year was my son's first year with Gunsaulus, and so I am a relative newcomer to the community. Most of my experience is with the 5th and 6th grade teachers, and the sped teachers. I have to say that I have been greatly impressed with the teachers I have gotten to know. They expect excellence and are also very open to change. My son being in sped means that we are constantly reviewing and discussing his IEP and its effectiveness. His teachers have been very willing to change and adapt as situations change and adapt. You don't say what the nature of your experience was at Gunsaulus, so you may have seen a different attitude towards change than I have.
I think the bigger issue here is perhaps the concept of what "change" is, and the nature of the resistance to it. I don't think that the problems at Gunsaulus stem from simply resistance to change. The problems really stem from the TYPE of changes and the METHODS of the implementation, as well as the JUSTIFCATION of the said changes. I believe that the teachers I have come to know are amenable to changes which are based in logic, reason and a true desire to better the school. Those types of changes have been welcomed this year.
But change for the sake of change is seldom a good thing. Change based on erroneous information/data is never a good thing. Change for the sake of vindictiveness is never a good thing. Many of the changes occurring this year fall into these types of categories. The list of names of those staff who were already removed or about to be removed as of June 12th should give anyone pause to think. What type of changes mandated the loss of so many in one year? The radical change in grade assignments and the furtive way in which they were distributed must also give one pause. While I have no claim to mastery of instructional pedagogy, as a parent I see little value to assigning a NBCT with a master's degree in science to work at the Kindergarten level, and many of the other grade reassignments befuddle me as well.
Look at the Gunsaulus web site main page, and you will see the words "integrity" "stability" and "diversity". I find it ironic that last year although these words did not appear on the main page, we had those concepts. But what of this year? Is there really integrity when the facts are misrepresented on a routine basis by both the principal and the LSC members? Is it stability when so many staff and teachers are removed in one year? Is there still diversity when only those who are bilingual are hired?
Unless you are actually a part of our school community it is hard to understand what is really going on. Sifting through reams and reams of words on a blog does not give a full picture either.
So, "warriors" I am not sure how to answer you. I will end by saying this. If all of this happened this year, what will happen next year? I shudder to think.
Gale
I read your post, and have to agree with you on one point. I, too, find many of these posts tasteless and pointless. I don't understand what people think they will achieve by calling BOE members names, and insulting each other. I understand the anger and frustration that many are feeling, but I don't feel that justifies bad behavior.
As to your other point about the mediocrity and preference for the status quo at Gunsaulus, I can comment to a degree. Last year was my son's first year with Gunsaulus, and so I am a relative newcomer to the community. Most of my experience is with the 5th and 6th grade teachers, and the sped teachers. I have to say that I have been greatly impressed with the teachers I have gotten to know. They expect excellence and are also very open to change. My son being in sped means that we are constantly reviewing and discussing his IEP and its effectiveness. His teachers have been very willing to change and adapt as situations change and adapt. You don't say what the nature of your experience was at Gunsaulus, so you may have seen a different attitude towards change than I have.
I think the bigger issue here is perhaps the concept of what "change" is, and the nature of the resistance to it. I don't think that the problems at Gunsaulus stem from simply resistance to change. The problems really stem from the TYPE of changes and the METHODS of the implementation, as well as the JUSTIFCATION of the said changes. I believe that the teachers I have come to know are amenable to changes which are based in logic, reason and a true desire to better the school. Those types of changes have been welcomed this year.
But change for the sake of change is seldom a good thing. Change based on erroneous information/data is never a good thing. Change for the sake of vindictiveness is never a good thing. Many of the changes occurring this year fall into these types of categories. The list of names of those staff who were already removed or about to be removed as of June 12th should give anyone pause to think. What type of changes mandated the loss of so many in one year? The radical change in grade assignments and the furtive way in which they were distributed must also give one pause. While I have no claim to mastery of instructional pedagogy, as a parent I see little value to assigning a NBCT with a master's degree in science to work at the Kindergarten level, and many of the other grade reassignments befuddle me as well.
Look at the Gunsaulus web site main page, and you will see the words "integrity" "stability" and "diversity". I find it ironic that last year although these words did not appear on the main page, we had those concepts. But what of this year? Is there really integrity when the facts are misrepresented on a routine basis by both the principal and the LSC members? Is it stability when so many staff and teachers are removed in one year? Is there still diversity when only those who are bilingual are hired?
Unless you are actually a part of our school community it is hard to understand what is really going on. Sifting through reams and reams of words on a blog does not give a full picture either.
So, "warriors" I am not sure how to answer you. I will end by saying this. If all of this happened this year, what will happen next year? I shudder to think.
Gale
Mon Jun 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM
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I agree with whoever said that adults don't gain respect because they are adults. Adults, just like everyone else, must EARN the respect of their others. The teachers who have been let go have ALL earned my respect. Kotz, however, has not, nor do I think she ever will. You earn respect by showing respect. Kotz, if you're reading this, I want you to pay close attention to that line. YOU EARN RESPECT BY SHOWING RESPECT. Show us some respect Kotz.
Tue Jun 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM
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R U going to the sports banquet on Friday? We need to go to support our coaches.
Tue Jun 2, 2009 at 6:01 PM
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Are the coaches even invited? They were never consulted or given the time & day until a flier went out today. For a month, Kotz has been dodging this event from even happening, then says the coaches didn't want it and PTO didn't want to help. That's just her SOP.
And we're all supposed to work with this lunatic?
And we're all supposed to work with this lunatic?
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 12:03 AM
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...so I will just say this.
1. Look at the blog postings from me and Ms. Senka from May 26th about trophies for after school.
2. Ms. Senka requested PTO help with trophies back in April. PTO board with Kotz voted on 05/05/09 to approve trophies for all after school sports.
3. Suffice it to say that I got the run around in the interim
4. Fast forward to today-I find out from my son that a sports banquet is scheduled for Friday, and still no information from Kotz. An appeal to Ms. Pluas gets some action, but names not available until tomorrow.
5. I am surprised to hear that Kotz allegedly said that "PTO does not want to help". If this is true, then it is a blatant lie.
You make your own call on this situation.
To "me" by all means attend the sports banquet. One would naturally assume that coaches would be invited, this being a SPORTS banquet.
However, coaches, please do not expect trophies from PTO, since we did not have the information to order them for you for Friday. We will still try to get them for next week, if it is even possible. We will get the names tomorrow and go to the trophy place.
Gale
1. Look at the blog postings from me and Ms. Senka from May 26th about trophies for after school.
2. Ms. Senka requested PTO help with trophies back in April. PTO board with Kotz voted on 05/05/09 to approve trophies for all after school sports.
3. Suffice it to say that I got the run around in the interim
4. Fast forward to today-I find out from my son that a sports banquet is scheduled for Friday, and still no information from Kotz. An appeal to Ms. Pluas gets some action, but names not available until tomorrow.
5. I am surprised to hear that Kotz allegedly said that "PTO does not want to help". If this is true, then it is a blatant lie.
You make your own call on this situation.
To "me" by all means attend the sports banquet. One would naturally assume that coaches would be invited, this being a SPORTS banquet.
However, coaches, please do not expect trophies from PTO, since we did not have the information to order them for you for Friday. We will still try to get them for next week, if it is even possible. We will get the names tomorrow and go to the trophy place.
Gale
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 7:56 AM
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another lie from Kotz??? Shocker. Another attempt to mske the PTO look bad, and the coach too. I bet her new little team of lapdogs...two of whose names mysteriously turned up on the organization for next year as aides, is putting this together for her. By the way, I thought there was no money for aides...isn't that why Love and Kuppelburg and all the rest don't have jobs next year. Or is it because they did not do enough favors for the principal and were too busy actually loving the children? Funny how these people get rewarded for being part of the evil machine.
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 2:04 PM
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Gale, I would like to say thank you for being our voice. Even though I am latino, I am scared that she will mess with my poor family. Yes, It true about everything as far as her and pluas going in the mail boxes, I caught her in mine and she told me that we will suffer if i told. my daughter is graduating out of kindergaten and they won't have any caps or gowns. i asked her why and she told me that thety didn't need any. kotz don't like anyone not whites blacks or latinos. i feel so bad for everyone. alot of parents are going to keep their kids home on the last day.
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM
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Don't keep your kids home...come to school with them. Wait for them. Kotz is only listening to a select group of parents who tell her what she wants to hear. She cannot retaliate against children. More parents have to voice their opinion. The board thinks the majority of parents are as happy as pie and that there are only a few unhappy. Judging by the teacher organization for next year, she is setting up next year to be an even bigger fiasco...we do not have time to wait and see.
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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i DO NOT HAVE A CHILD IN KINDERGARDEN, MINE GRADUATED WITH A CAP AND GOWN 2 YRS AGO AT COLUMBIA MY SON IN HERE AT GUNSAULUS NOW. I DID MENTION IT TO MRS KOLTS ABOUT A KINDERGARDEN GRADUATION SHE SAID IT WAS NEVER DONE BEFORE AT GUNSAULUS. I DID NOT LIKE HER ATTITUDE BECAUSE SHE COULD OF SAID SOMETHING LIKE WE COULD TALK TO THE PARENTS AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT AND PLAN IT. BUT I THINK ITS JUST HER WAY OF BEING MEAN. MAYBE IF PARENTS WOULD OF BROUGHT IT UP WE COULD OF DONE IT FOE THE CHILDRENS
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 3:31 PM
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In my last posting (May 31), I enumerated the laws that Kotz & Fanelli are breaking. I did this in response to the CPS bureaucratic line that Kotz is merely a poor manager (as if that's acceptable) as opposed to the criminally inclined nutcase we all know her and her sidekick to be.
I forgot to mention the federal law on going through mailboxes. I'm sorry "So Scared to Say Something" above is too scared to report this to the police.
In any event, there have been plenty of laws broken at Gunsaulus this year. Apparently, CPS sees this as mere poor judgement and mismanagement.
I think I'll go rob a bank and get a CPS lawyer to defend me in court. I'll say it was just poor judgement! And I mismanaged the getaway!!
I forgot to mention the federal law on going through mailboxes. I'm sorry "So Scared to Say Something" above is too scared to report this to the police.
In any event, there have been plenty of laws broken at Gunsaulus this year. Apparently, CPS sees this as mere poor judgement and mismanagement.
I think I'll go rob a bank and get a CPS lawyer to defend me in court. I'll say it was just poor judgement! And I mismanaged the getaway!!
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM
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I would not recommend keeping your child home on the last day. That is when they get their report cards and room assignments. Also if your child is in a bridge year, you will need to know if they did not meet the promotion criteria and have to go to summer school. I don't know when we find this out, but it could very well be the last day. Also, last day is only an hour, so it is not much of a statement if you keep your children home.
Why not come and just sit outside on a nice day? I hadn't thought about what I would do, but maybe we moms could just hang out at the playground for an hour. Bring a cup of coffee and we can have our own parent coffee talk.
I don't know anything about Kindergarten, so I can't address that.
Why not come and just sit outside on a nice day? I hadn't thought about what I would do, but maybe we moms could just hang out at the playground for an hour. Bring a cup of coffee and we can have our own parent coffee talk.
I don't know anything about Kindergarten, so I can't address that.
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM
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Oops!
"Last Day" post above was me. Forgot my name.
Gale :0)
Also, as far as the Kindergarten cap and gown, I must say that I am with Kotz on this one. I personally think the cap and gown for kindergarten is a bit much, and from my point of view an unnecessary expense and fuss. My son had a cap and gown ceremony in Kindergarten at his old school, and it was just annoying to me.
I have no knowledge of what was done with the Kindergarten in the past years at Gunsaulus, or how Ms. Kotz handled this situation this year, so I can't comment on that. My only response to the angry kindergarten moms is that if you have a problem with something at the school, you should take it up with Ms. Kotz or Ms. Pluas.
Remember that we reap what we sow. For a long time, many parents have remained silent while a few of us questioned things. Now that your children are directly affected you are angry. I am sorry you feel your children are affected by an action, or perhaps inaction on the part of the administration. So now what will you do?
"Last Day" post above was me. Forgot my name.
Gale :0)
Also, as far as the Kindergarten cap and gown, I must say that I am with Kotz on this one. I personally think the cap and gown for kindergarten is a bit much, and from my point of view an unnecessary expense and fuss. My son had a cap and gown ceremony in Kindergarten at his old school, and it was just annoying to me.
I have no knowledge of what was done with the Kindergarten in the past years at Gunsaulus, or how Ms. Kotz handled this situation this year, so I can't comment on that. My only response to the angry kindergarten moms is that if you have a problem with something at the school, you should take it up with Ms. Kotz or Ms. Pluas.
Remember that we reap what we sow. For a long time, many parents have remained silent while a few of us questioned things. Now that your children are directly affected you are angry. I am sorry you feel your children are affected by an action, or perhaps inaction on the part of the administration. So now what will you do?
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
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As a community member, I am outraged that anyone is going through mail boxes in this neighborhood. Are there more parents that would be willing to step forward as witnesses that they have seen or been victimized by this type of action?
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 7:26 PM
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who put the items IN the mailboxes. "I forgot to mention the federal law on going through mailboxes" AND putting stuff in them! Who put the stuff in them?
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 8:16 PM
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So Kotz was putting stuff in mailboxes? Or just rummaging through them? What was she putting in there?
Wed Jun 3, 2009 at 9:34 PM
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Traditionally there was not a kidergarten graduation. There was, however, a day where the teachers gave the students a portfolio of work from the beginning of the year to the end to show their improvement and growth. It was really nice to see and it made many student and parents excited and happy.
Thu Jun 4, 2009 at 1:45 PM
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On Wednesday, June 10 they are having something for the kindergartens. I am glad that school is over on Wednesday for the kindergartens.
Thu Jun 4, 2009 at 2:08 PM
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Kindergarten graduation is so overrated. It's more for the parents than the children. Why all the rigamarole for going to school for only 1 year (or 2)?
Fri Jun 5, 2009 at 2:58 PM
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I'M SO GLAD, I'M SO GLAD, SCHOOL IS OVER, SCHOOL IS OVER. THEY MAKE ME SICK, THEY MAKE ME SICK, THE BOARD SUCKS THE BOARD SUCKS. KOTZ IS CRAZY, KOTZ IS CRAZY. YALL LIKE MY SONG?? HAVE A SAFE AND HAPPY SUMMER!!! PEACEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Fri Jun 5, 2009 at 6:24 PM
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any new hires if so what grades?
anybody get fired if so who?
anybody get fired if so who?
Sun Jun 7, 2009 at 7:03 AM
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is there a new secret blog for gunsaulus, I want to join. No one has posted here lately and I want to keep abreast as to what is going on at my kids school.
Sun Jun 7, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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Yes, there is a new blog. Hopefully it is at the unemployment office where only KOTZ AND PLUAS can read it.
Sun Jun 7, 2009 at 8:35 PM
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The blog does seem to be petering out. Outsiders and CPS goons might think that's a good sign that things are finally settling down at Gunsaulus. But it's not.
Kotz has been crazy as ever mucking up end of year routines and screwing around with people's programs for next year. But what we're seeing on this blog, I think, is resignation. Frankly, we're all a bit overwhelmed and feeling bludgeoned. Most people are just trying to bear up and face the last few weeks. I also think it's beginning to sink in to those who have been fired by Kotz that they will not be returning, so I guess they're beginning to focus their energies elsewhere.
But come September, things will undoubtedly get ugly again. In fact, things will be worse because now Kotz & Fanelli feel vindicated by the Board's inaction and they will certainly go further to test their limits. What they've learned this year is that there really are no limits. They can do what they damned well please, blatantly, openly, and there are no consequences.
God help us, because CPS won't.
Kotz has been crazy as ever mucking up end of year routines and screwing around with people's programs for next year. But what we're seeing on this blog, I think, is resignation. Frankly, we're all a bit overwhelmed and feeling bludgeoned. Most people are just trying to bear up and face the last few weeks. I also think it's beginning to sink in to those who have been fired by Kotz that they will not be returning, so I guess they're beginning to focus their energies elsewhere.
But come September, things will undoubtedly get ugly again. In fact, things will be worse because now Kotz & Fanelli feel vindicated by the Board's inaction and they will certainly go further to test their limits. What they've learned this year is that there really are no limits. They can do what they damned well please, blatantly, openly, and there are no consequences.
God help us, because CPS won't.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 7:00 AM
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No one wants to help.
It is sad.
Are the higher ups afraid of her?
Why will no one help us and our kids?
Doesn't anyone care?
Four more days and that is the end of school and the end of many careers.
Doesn't she know what she is doing to the teachers and staff?
How can she be so cold hearted?
Please someone answer why no one will help us!!!
It is sad.
Are the higher ups afraid of her?
Why will no one help us and our kids?
Doesn't anyone care?
Four more days and that is the end of school and the end of many careers.
Doesn't she know what she is doing to the teachers and staff?
How can she be so cold hearted?
Please someone answer why no one will help us!!!
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM
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The blog is dieing because only a select few are brave enough to stand up to the principal and CPS. What do you all expect? Open your mouths and actually DO something.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM
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Please explain? I follow this thread with great interest (I teach elsewhere, but I have been in your shoes. Now I am at a school I love with a terrific principal) I remember the pain. You said the adminstration was VINDICATED? Huh? In what sense? Was there an actual investigation into the corruption and abuse? And they were vindicated? What part did I miss?
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM
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My post did not say Kotz & Fanelli were vindicated. It said they "feel vindicated by the Board's inaction."
Was there an investigation? It depends what "investigation" means.
Any crimes committed by Kotz & Fanelli were supported by many accessories to the crimes, and that includes Mesa-Collins, Flavia Hernandez, the Office of the Inspector General, and most of all, Huberman & Scott. They are accessories by their indifference and inaction. And when this whole thing blows up into something bigger next year, we'll remember you people.
Was there an investigation? It depends what "investigation" means.
Any crimes committed by Kotz & Fanelli were supported by many accessories to the crimes, and that includes Mesa-Collins, Flavia Hernandez, the Office of the Inspector General, and most of all, Huberman & Scott. They are accessories by their indifference and inaction. And when this whole thing blows up into something bigger next year, we'll remember you people.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 2:38 PM
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I am a parent of a 8th grader that graduated today. The ceramony was beautiful. The teachers Mr. T, Dr. C., and Miss Green did a great job and should be rewarded. Another parent said that none of them will be in 8th grade next year. This is a shame. They showed love to the students and the students loved them too. Evryone should watch the video. The rest of the school should have these teachers in 8th grade. Can Miss Kots change it or is it to late?
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM
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It is Ms. Kotz herself that decides what teachers teach what grades, and she does not care how good these teachers are to our 8th graders and she could change this if she wanted to but she doesn't like these teachers and wants them to quit. She only caares about herself and fineli. Dr. C is leaving the school to go teach somewhere else. She was smart to go before Ms. Kotz fired her too.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM
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I think 3 of 88 did not graduate. There was no grade inflation, though. Pretty sure it was ISATs that were the issue.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM
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I know we all dont like Kotz. But honestly, what are we going to blog about over the summer. I am going to eighth grade and I am not letting Kotz and Fanelli ruin my year of glory. So you all can keep blogging but this could be the last time you hear from Alias again. Im just going to have a great summer and I cant wait to see all the madness next schoolyear. I will definitely keep reading.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM
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I do not understand how an honor roll student could be denied on- stage graduation for failure to meet one benchmark on this years ISAT. The student showed improvement on local benchmark assessments in the fall and spring. The score from last years ISAT Math met the benchmark. This student received academic letters of recommendation from the Math teachers. They posted grades of A' & B's on report card throughout the 8th grade year. The ISAT scores came in last week. There was percentage improvement but failure to meet the benchmrk in Math. How could this happen to an honor roll student? Is there grade inflation at Gunsaulus? Should this student have received additional services/support at the 7th grade level to promote success at the 8th grade level? How cruel of the CPS to notify parents 3 days before graduation when excitement and anticipation run high, invitations have been sent, new clothes, etc....Since when is graduation about 1 ISAT test? It should be a celebration of 9 years (KG-8) of hard work, perseverance, growth, friendships, athletics, clubs. Yet, CPS negates all of that based on ONE ISAT result!
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 8:28 PM
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It was the same last year. Any school that had students who did not meet the SAT10 score and or got a D/F in read &/or math or writing (thereis more with this), cannot walk the stage. it has been this way for quite sometime--3rd grade, 6th grades--where have you been?
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM
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I heard a sub got hired for kindergarten is this true? if so who?
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 9:17 PM
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A sub that is here this year is hired for kindergarten next year.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM
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Another poster described the promotion policy-didn't you have to read and sign a copy? I had to do this for my 6th grader. As the other poster said, this is a long time promotion policy and is not new for this year.
You might want to check on how the ISAT was administered to your child. As we all learned a while ago, Kotz instructed the teachers to give a shortened break during the ISATs which was in violation of the testing rules. I was told by the ISBE that the scores of affected students would be "suppressed" whatever that means. This testing problem is not a rumor. It is a fact that was confirmed by the ISBE so don't let CPS tell you any differently.
If it were my child that was denied permission to graduate based on a single ISAT score, I would demand to know if my child's testing was given under the violated rules. and I would ask to see documented proof that the tests were administered correctly. If I were not satisfied with the proof that was shown to me, I would appeal the decision to deny graduation.
Also, grades are separate entities from ISATs. Just because a student does poorly on the ISAT tests does not necessarily mean that the grades are inflated. Can one really say that the ISAT is a true reflection of what a child is supposed to know? I can't answer this. I leave this to the educators to decide. I am just asking the question.
Gale
You might want to check on how the ISAT was administered to your child. As we all learned a while ago, Kotz instructed the teachers to give a shortened break during the ISATs which was in violation of the testing rules. I was told by the ISBE that the scores of affected students would be "suppressed" whatever that means. This testing problem is not a rumor. It is a fact that was confirmed by the ISBE so don't let CPS tell you any differently.
If it were my child that was denied permission to graduate based on a single ISAT score, I would demand to know if my child's testing was given under the violated rules. and I would ask to see documented proof that the tests were administered correctly. If I were not satisfied with the proof that was shown to me, I would appeal the decision to deny graduation.
Also, grades are separate entities from ISATs. Just because a student does poorly on the ISAT tests does not necessarily mean that the grades are inflated. Can one really say that the ISAT is a true reflection of what a child is supposed to know? I can't answer this. I leave this to the educators to decide. I am just asking the question.
Gale
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 10:06 PM
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No, the ISAT tests are CERTAINLY not an indicator of what students truly know or have learned. It is a hyped up test that stressed most students out and ends up testing the same few concepts amongst many a student has learned that year. I know MANY students who get above average grades and are exemplary students who don't perform well on standardized tests. It has nothing to do with inflating grades but moreso test anxiety, reading questions, and doing multiple choice versus other forms of assessment. The 8th grader should have been able to graduate in my opinion.
Mon Jun 8, 2009 at 10:38 PM
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8th grade teacher to 1st grade
6th grade science to kdg
5th grade to kdg
1st grade to pre-k
3rd grade to 6th
kdg to 4th
Many room changes---
Is this REALLY "Children First?" Of course not, this is retaliation.
Parents: This principal does NOT care about the children.
6th grade science to kdg
5th grade to kdg
1st grade to pre-k
3rd grade to 6th
kdg to 4th
Many room changes---
Is this REALLY "Children First?" Of course not, this is retaliation.
Parents: This principal does NOT care about the children.
Tue Jun 9, 2009 at 12:05 AM
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Teachers do not inflate grades...they differentiate instruction to meet the needs of each student. A student can get straight A's on tests and HW in the classroom and have a sh***y 40 minutes on the day of the test. Definately check if the child was in a room that was not tested correctly...I understand one of the 8th grades was affected. But really, the test is an entity unto itself and students have to meet the promotion policy...all 3-6-8 parents sign it. I think they signed it twice this year...one was sent home and the other was signed at report card pick up. But lets face it...if a student does not get a 24, they clearly need summer review. I don't see why they cannot walk across the stage, though.
Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM
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So, Kotz was made to sit down with a group of angry ghetto moms a few days ago, mediated by a Huberman crony, smoke a peace pipe and sing Kumbaya. Who else knew about this? I just heard about it, but from what I heard, it all worked out to Kotz' advantage.
They levelled accusations at Kotz of lying, deceit, making false accusations, firing people for personal (not personnel) reasons, and undermining the well-being of the school. She continually redirected the accusations:
"Who told you that?"
"You're not supposed to know that!"
"It was unprofessional of people to tell you that!"
"That's a personnel matter that I can't discuss."
And blah blah blah...without ever addressing the grievances or how those grievances will be resolved.
This might come as a surprise to you, Kotz, but when you attack people, they are going to defend themselves, even if that means publicly discussing "personnel matters" with blatant false accusations. Or when you do crooked or crazy things, people are going to talk about it. You are like a bank robber complaining that people are talking about him. If you don't like people calling you a bank-robber, quit robbing banks.
Huberman's office is taking the new, nihilistic, 21st century mantra of "moving forward," and that was the theme of this mock-meeting. But you cannot move forward until you adequately deal with the past. If Kotz has not even acknowledged any wrong-doing other than "poor communication," then she will undoubtedly continue with her bad behaviors, and will not rectify the mistakes she's already made. And the school simply cannot move forward with that.
I wonder if this guy from Huberman's office was smart enough to see through the double-talk, evasions, and deceptions, and realize how serious this situation is for Gunsaulus. Given the nature of CPS bureaucrats, I'm betting against it. And even if he does realize, so what? It's not like his kid or Huberman's kid attends Gunsaulus. So why would it matter?
But Huberman's office is in for a surprise. They think this situation will just go away. But I guarantee, Kotz & Fanelli are going to go even further next fall, and the already festering unresolved issues will only deepen. And when they do, you're going to hear about it.
They levelled accusations at Kotz of lying, deceit, making false accusations, firing people for personal (not personnel) reasons, and undermining the well-being of the school. She continually redirected the accusations:
"Who told you that?"
"You're not supposed to know that!"
"It was unprofessional of people to tell you that!"
"That's a personnel matter that I can't discuss."
And blah blah blah...without ever addressing the grievances or how those grievances will be resolved.
This might come as a surprise to you, Kotz, but when you attack people, they are going to defend themselves, even if that means publicly discussing "personnel matters" with blatant false accusations. Or when you do crooked or crazy things, people are going to talk about it. You are like a bank robber complaining that people are talking about him. If you don't like people calling you a bank-robber, quit robbing banks.
Huberman's office is taking the new, nihilistic, 21st century mantra of "moving forward," and that was the theme of this mock-meeting. But you cannot move forward until you adequately deal with the past. If Kotz has not even acknowledged any wrong-doing other than "poor communication," then she will undoubtedly continue with her bad behaviors, and will not rectify the mistakes she's already made. And the school simply cannot move forward with that.
I wonder if this guy from Huberman's office was smart enough to see through the double-talk, evasions, and deceptions, and realize how serious this situation is for Gunsaulus. Given the nature of CPS bureaucrats, I'm betting against it. And even if he does realize, so what? It's not like his kid or Huberman's kid attends Gunsaulus. So why would it matter?
But Huberman's office is in for a surprise. They think this situation will just go away. But I guarantee, Kotz & Fanelli are going to go even further next fall, and the already festering unresolved issues will only deepen. And when they do, you're going to hear about it.
Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM
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There's stories circulating that Huberman has walked into schools and fired principals for trivial matters like clocks not being set properly. Maybe these stories are exaggerated. Maybe.
On the other hand, when a school like Gunsaulus and many others are in crisis and turmoil because of reckless and destructive behavior from the principal, CPS looks the other way.
There are suggestions that CPS and Huberman encourage such destructive behavior and cultivate destructive principals. Why? Perhaps to keep teachers and parents in their place, or to justify school closings. Who knows?
That sounds awfully conspiratorial, but the facts seem to fit the narrative. And when you hear a lot of quacking, that usually means there's ducks around.
On the other hand, when a school like Gunsaulus and many others are in crisis and turmoil because of reckless and destructive behavior from the principal, CPS looks the other way.
There are suggestions that CPS and Huberman encourage such destructive behavior and cultivate destructive principals. Why? Perhaps to keep teachers and parents in their place, or to justify school closings. Who knows?
That sounds awfully conspiratorial, but the facts seem to fit the narrative. And when you hear a lot of quacking, that usually means there's ducks around.
Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
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I had decided to stop participating in the blog, but feel that I need to jump in here and make one final post to clarify some issues. The "biased observer" and "conspiracy theory" posters seem to think they have an inside track on what happened, so I thought I would post to clarify the issue as one who was actually present.
There was in fact a meeting this week with the principal, and some representatives from CPS and some parents (I was one of the parents). There was a representative from Huberman's office present as well as someone from LSC relations. The purpose of the meeting was to have a discussion about the issues this year that caused tension at the school, and try to find ways to resolve them.
The parents did have some very specific and pointed dialogue with Kotz about issues involving parents, teachers, changes this year, communication and accountability and transparency. While I can't say that we fully resolved the issues and the differences, it was a benefit to have the meeting in that we were able to speak frankly about the topics and ways to begin anew in the fall.
To be sure there is still much to overcome and move forward from, and while I can't say I was completely satisfied with all the answers to my specific questions, I did appreciate the opportunity to be heard, and I appreciated the CPS presence and input.
I think the lesson to be learned here is that parents need to make their opinions known and feel empowered to meet with the principal and discuss their issues. Will you get the answers you desire? Not necessarily, but you won't get ANY answers if you don't ask the questions. However, we parents need to stay involved in the school. If you are not involved in the school and informed on the issues, then get informed by getting involved. If you have concerns or questions, you need to bring them to the appropriate parties. Come to LSC and other school meetings. Voice your opinions.
I am not so pollyanna to think that one meeting solved everything, but I am committed to trying to improve the situation at Gunsaulus. And so it is likely you will not hear from me again. I wish everyone a great summer. I wish the PATs find schools where they will be valued and treated with the respect they deserve. I hope the next school year is vastly improved from this one. And I wish everyone peace.
Gale
There was in fact a meeting this week with the principal, and some representatives from CPS and some parents (I was one of the parents). There was a representative from Huberman's office present as well as someone from LSC relations. The purpose of the meeting was to have a discussion about the issues this year that caused tension at the school, and try to find ways to resolve them.
The parents did have some very specific and pointed dialogue with Kotz about issues involving parents, teachers, changes this year, communication and accountability and transparency. While I can't say that we fully resolved the issues and the differences, it was a benefit to have the meeting in that we were able to speak frankly about the topics and ways to begin anew in the fall.
To be sure there is still much to overcome and move forward from, and while I can't say I was completely satisfied with all the answers to my specific questions, I did appreciate the opportunity to be heard, and I appreciated the CPS presence and input.
I think the lesson to be learned here is that parents need to make their opinions known and feel empowered to meet with the principal and discuss their issues. Will you get the answers you desire? Not necessarily, but you won't get ANY answers if you don't ask the questions. However, we parents need to stay involved in the school. If you are not involved in the school and informed on the issues, then get informed by getting involved. If you have concerns or questions, you need to bring them to the appropriate parties. Come to LSC and other school meetings. Voice your opinions.
I am not so pollyanna to think that one meeting solved everything, but I am committed to trying to improve the situation at Gunsaulus. And so it is likely you will not hear from me again. I wish everyone a great summer. I wish the PATs find schools where they will be valued and treated with the respect they deserve. I hope the next school year is vastly improved from this one. And I wish everyone peace.
Gale
Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 6:10 PM
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Tomorrow will be the saddest hour and a half that I have come across my whole life. Saying goodbye to the teachers that have taught me so much will feal unreal. Because you expect to see them there the next year at the beginning of the year. Thats when the the children will really become angry. I shall go into school all smiles and come out with tears streaking down my cheek. I hope you are reading this Kotz because you have made this schoolyear hell for my classmates and I. Get help because you really need it. I pray for you in hopes that you will realize what you are doing to this once great school.
Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 10:24 PM
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You're just a naive, foolish kid who will eventually get over this over-sentimentalized moment. Those so-called teachers you revere so much are simply not a good fit for Gunsaulus. The Principal is much more educated and wiser to understand the contributions a teacher makes and when a teacher is simply not doing the job. Moreover, a principal sees further down the road than you possibly can to understand where the school is headed and what kinds of teachers are necessary.
True, these teachers who are being replaced raised test scores consistently and coached teams and sponsored other after-school extracurriculars to impact kids' lives, and gained the respect and admiration of students and their parents, but again, you're too young and naive to understand how these teachers are a poor fit to turn Gunsaulus into the community-based, Spanish-speaking, dociled parented, gang-ridden showcase Principal Kotz envisions for the future.
True, these teachers who are being replaced raised test scores consistently and coached teams and sponsored other after-school extracurriculars to impact kids' lives, and gained the respect and admiration of students and their parents, but again, you're too young and naive to understand how these teachers are a poor fit to turn Gunsaulus into the community-based, Spanish-speaking, dociled parented, gang-ridden showcase Principal Kotz envisions for the future.
Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 12:28 AM
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I am so glad you turned that around. Also, the chaos that will be next year has already started. How about the non-English speaking teacher that called another teacher into her room today and then told her she was not "the right white one"? She fits fine. The teacher that has a bigger video collection than a classroom library...another good fit. I am sure the person that was interviewed today for a job by the LSC chair will be a good fit, too. Oh and the "teacher" that bad mouths teachers to each other and then runs to the principal and spreads vitriol and rumors...another good fit. Let's see...the people who start speaking in Spanish when white or black people walk into the office...perfect fit. These PATs should be thanking god they don't fit...the people that remain will never fit, nor will most try. They have too much pride and intelligence to try and fit into the cesspool that Gunsaulus has become. Drew Beres bought the B.S. just like everyone else from the board. Everyone have a ood summer because you can bet that many more of us won't fit next year.
Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 6:44 AM
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I know that you are definiteely Kotz or one of her little posse. Call me a naive kid if you want but before you came in and messed our school up we would never have to come to this. So you are just a coward sitting behind a computer scared to show yourself. I bet that you are indeed the weasel, Bert Fanelli. Well everyone have a great summer.
Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM
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To: Tomorrow, and Okay....To "To Tomorrow"
YOU are probably the problem why Gunsaulus is in this crisis. YOU are probably one of those immature staff members that walks around, yelling at teachers and student. YOU are probably a Spanish-speaking person, not that I have anything against the Spanish language. Let me mention that this is a magnet school that accepts ALL students and staff. So, if they're not bilingual or Hispanic, then they won't be able to work/go to the school, right??
YOU are probably the problem why Gunsaulus is in this crisis. YOU are probably one of those immature staff members that walks around, yelling at teachers and student. YOU are probably a Spanish-speaking person, not that I have anything against the Spanish language. Let me mention that this is a magnet school that accepts ALL students and staff. So, if they're not bilingual or Hispanic, then they won't be able to work/go to the school, right??
Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 9:12 AM
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I think many of you need to re-read "To: Tomorrow". In case the satire was missed, the last paragraph clarifies where it's coming from.
Jonathan Swift was not really proposing to eat Irish babies, and that posting is not really proposing that a gang-ridden school is desired, except, of course, by Kots & Fanelli.
Jonathan Swift was not really proposing to eat Irish babies, and that posting is not really proposing that a gang-ridden school is desired, except, of course, by Kots & Fanelli.
Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 2:46 PM
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I HATE HER AND FINELLI. DOESN'T HE LOOKS LIKE A WEASEL WITH GLASSES? WILL HE BE WALKING A HALLS LIKE HE IS EMPLOYED THERE ALL SUMMER. THEY BOTH ARE GOING TO BE THERE COOKING UP SOME MESS FOR SEPTEMBER. THE SUMMER IS GOING TO GO QUICK BECAUSE NONE OF US WANTS TO GO BACK THERE. THERE IS NO WAY I COULD WORK SOMEWHERE NOBODY LIKES ME. MAYBE SHE WILL HAVE A CHANGE A HEART THIS SUMMER AND TRY TTO CORRECT SOMETHINGS THAT SHE HAS DONE WRONG?????
FINELLI NEEDS JENNY CRAIG, OR HE NEEDS TO RUN UNTIL HE GET TO THE END OF THE EARTH. BECAUSE HE IS THE SCUM THAT LIES THERE.
EVERYONE HAVE A SAFE SUMMER. ALSO REMEMBER TO PUT LOCKS ON YOUR MAIL BOXES SO THE GUNSAULUS CREW CAN'T GO BACK IN THERE.
FINELLI NEEDS JENNY CRAIG, OR HE NEEDS TO RUN UNTIL HE GET TO THE END OF THE EARTH. BECAUSE HE IS THE SCUM THAT LIES THERE.
EVERYONE HAVE A SAFE SUMMER. ALSO REMEMBER TO PUT LOCKS ON YOUR MAIL BOXES SO THE GUNSAULUS CREW CAN'T GO BACK IN THERE.
Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 9:04 AM
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does anyone know the teacher line up for september??? who will teach 7th and eighth grade next year?
Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 9:15 AM
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who is the new kindergarten teacher that was hired I heard she was a substitute at the school?? and what teacher did she replace? my daughter will be in kindergarten this year and I need a heads up?
Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 8:50 PM
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I wish all of you, the wounded Gunnsaulus community, staff and students a well deserved break from school and a healing summer. I worked with Amy Kotz at Monroe Elementary - walked a long mile with her and discovered the truth too. You will all be validated. Your pain is real and you are not the cause of it. When justice comes to your school and community, you will know that you fought on the side of good and won. A blessed new school year to you. Gain your strength this summer. Channel your outrage and anger to your purpose and let God guide you. Find the calmness inside of yourselves. Do not allow yourselves to be broken into groups that fight amongst yourselves. You are not white, brown, black, Spanish and not Spanish speaking, You are Americans and you deserve the best we can be together. You are being abused and you will overcome. Know that there are many who know Amy Kotz and you are in our prayers.
Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 11:51 PM
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You are a sore loser. Kotz has been stopping the racism at tehis school and contry club atmosphere--I can see your green.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 12:38 AM
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Thank you for your words of hope.You're right, we can't let Ms Kotz divide us with her lies. She hates when parents talk because then we realize how many different stories she tells to each of us.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM
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the board rep met with the parents. It's a new day and new start. Get on board for the new beginning. haters and gossipers NOT welcome.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 10:41 AM
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Can you give us more? Is there "healing" or "my way or the highway?" What came about the meeting? Who were the participants? Who was the mediator? Come on! Let's have it! That school was brought to it's knees.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM
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for the answer to your questions? A person at this meeting shared their experience. Your answers are right there.
So lazy, full of hate and accusatory. Saying nasty things on this blog about people. The school will be better for moving these haters out--actually the school will be MORE inclusive and less resistant to putting children first. best wishes to gunsalas as it moves into the right direction.
So lazy, full of hate and accusatory. Saying nasty things on this blog about people. The school will be better for moving these haters out--actually the school will be MORE inclusive and less resistant to putting children first. best wishes to gunsalas as it moves into the right direction.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM
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I read Gale's post. It was very general, very vague. The issues on the the table were not specified. Who from Huberman's office was there? What concessions/promises were made. Can we get a litte more?
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 11:52 AM
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who met with the Board rep. It is their responsibility to share this information with the gunsaulus parents.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM
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That is exactly what I am trying to do.... I am asking the parents. Several post here. Hello?
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM
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you say:
"So lazy, full of hate and accusatory. Saying nasty things on this blog about people. The school will be better for moving these haters out--actually the school will be MORE inclusive and less resistant to putting children first. best wishes to gunsalas as it moves into the right direction."
Wow! This kind of sniping, and you say others are nasty? God help Gunsaulus. You call this moving ahead? geez
"So lazy, full of hate and accusatory. Saying nasty things on this blog about people. The school will be better for moving these haters out--actually the school will be MORE inclusive and less resistant to putting children first. best wishes to gunsalas as it moves into the right direction."
Wow! This kind of sniping, and you say others are nasty? God help Gunsaulus. You call this moving ahead? geez
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM
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no longer wish to share information in such a public forum as this blog. That is a good idea on their part since the comments here really get out of control. I wish the parents well--if they choose not to share it here, good for them. Those who are parents and want the info should already know how to get in touch with them. Those who want this info will have to identify themselves when they call or approach these parents. In the light of day, the haters will faid away.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 1:37 PM
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Read my post again on June 11. Gale Suwe's clarification after my post certainly was vague, and so does smell of some kind of gag order. While I did not attend the meeting, I always get my information from reliable and corroborated sources.
As far as I can tell, there's nothing moving forward, and nothing has been rectified. We still have lost over 15 valuable people, including several excellent teachers at the end of the year, and the remaining teachers are being shuffled around in a disorderly manner, such as the nationally board certified upper-grade science teacher being moved to teach kindergarten.
As far as the "racism," it only exacerbates the issue when all the people fired are replaced with only Spanish-speaking people. Moreover, Kotz actually, verbally accused the security guard of being frightening to teachers & children because he's so "big and black"!
But as Kotz would say, I'm not supposed to know these things.
As far as I can tell, there's nothing moving forward, and nothing has been rectified. We still have lost over 15 valuable people, including several excellent teachers at the end of the year, and the remaining teachers are being shuffled around in a disorderly manner, such as the nationally board certified upper-grade science teacher being moved to teach kindergarten.
As far as the "racism," it only exacerbates the issue when all the people fired are replaced with only Spanish-speaking people. Moreover, Kotz actually, verbally accused the security guard of being frightening to teachers & children because he's so "big and black"!
But as Kotz would say, I'm not supposed to know these things.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM
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You can only speculate about a gag order. You can only spread gossip and untruths. Follow the advice from the above poster--ask the parents yourself OFF of this blog. You know show much here...you should know how to contact the parents involved. Identify yourself to them and let them give you their honest answers. Parents have a right not to get involved with the slamming and hating on this blog. Good for them.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM
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I'm not from Gunsaulus, but have followed this blog with great interest. I don't think it is unfair or gossipy to be curious about the outcome - even if only 1/20th of what was said is true. I think many people (not from Gunsaulus) only wish the best for the school - both staff and children. I (and I bet others are, too) am curious about how CPS resolved (if they did) a horrible situation. And they should get credit, if they did. I also suspect the mud-slinging (on both sides) was somewhat exagerated. The dirty laundry was washed very publicly. A truce is good thing. But I feel like I didn't get to watch the end of a movie. Even if there is a happy ending (I am hopeful there is) I would like to know the conclusion. Anyway, the important thing is moving forwardl All the best.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM
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And here's another story making the rounds. A couple of students were holed up in Kotz' office. The only thing anyone has heard from these students is "she asked us a lot of questions, but we're not supposed to tell our teacher or parents about it".
Recent posts have been complaining about this blog. Well sure, that's how stories get out that none of us are supposed to know.
Recent posts have been complaining about this blog. Well sure, that's how stories get out that none of us are supposed to know.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM
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again, half truths, gossip, which is what has happend to this string. Yu cannot resist putting more junk on this blog can you? It is up to the students' parents to go to them and share this--all you share is hearsay and that is all you have to fuel your hatred, which is beginning buring out. As for the end of a movie--it was a bad movie; the end is that the parents involved are high class and will work from within. If they are not allowed to or stopped, they have access to grieve. Again, good for these parents-congratulations.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 2:27 PM
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Good for you--do not believe it. Donot fall into a trap where otheres with their hatred are only trying to get a fire started and they do not care if they burn the good. Approach one of the parents if you are truely involved withthe school. Surely your will get a just answer. Best wishes to you.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM
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I've got to ask...what about the teachers and other staff members who lost their jobs? Will they be brought back, reassigned, or just out in the cold? If in the cold, then this was not resolution. It was a coup de e'tat.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 2:49 PM
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if you have had a chance to read ANY other sections of this blog, you will see that there were big layoffs at almost all schools. CPS is closing postions like crazy. That said, PATs are allowed to be let go per the agreement. PATs know this when they take a job with the Board. With the layoffs, there will be more highlyu qualified and experienced teachers available as well as those with reading and specialty endorements. This makes for even BETTER candidates to come to a school to teach. I am sorry that this is how the agreement is, but it is. Many PATs throughout the city were let go this year and approx. 400 teachers are now discharged as of the end of this month. This was the same system last year. The PATs have a union and they should go to the CTU en mas and talk with them. Again, if you are conneted to the school, you should approach those parents who went to the meeting. You have aright to ask and they have a right to answer once they know who you are. best wishes to all.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 3:27 PM
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She gutted our staff. She had her agenda. Everybody knows. Yes, others (more "qualified") may apply. We lost some really good people. A "new beginning" - yeah, right. And not to mention the fabulous teachers who looked for other schools. We will miss them. Yes, it is over. No need to show me the road kill.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 5:18 PM
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I THINK GALE IS PHONY. SHE IS IN THE PALM OF KOTZ AND FINELLI HANDS. IT'S FUNNY HOW ALL OF SUDDEN SHE HAS NOTHING TO SAY. I THINK SHE WAS TAKING EVERYTHING BACK TO KOTZ AND FINELLI. EVERYONE WATCH HER. DON'T SAY ANYTHING AROUND HER. YESSSSSSSSS, IT IS A GAG ORDER. BECASUE BIG MOUTH WILL NOT OPEN HER MOUTH. SCREW THEM ALL.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The issues are beyond PAD's. In your own experience, if you recognize this, form your own opinion: (copy and paste) http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I dont know who you are, but i know that you are a certain person involved in Kotz Final Resolution to destroy Gunsaulus. Gale stopped posting because she thinks the blog isnt worth her time anymore. If the concerned parents had enough hair on their ass then Gale would pay attention. But Gale has a lot of class and she knows what shes doing. So if you are just trying to create controversy so Kotz wont be on the spot you have failed miserably. You are truly a unintelligent human that isnt worth anyones time. By the way its summer. THe blog should be shut down because there is no point in complaining because everyone wants to remain ananoymous. It shows how brave we really are. Dont tell me to post my name because I am a former student that cares about their future and wont let Kotz mess it up.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Gale is a hero - she was out in the front line all alone - whatever she does is okay by me. She deserves a break. Doing the right thing can be very lonely. Leave her alone.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Shut up. and stop shouting. You don't even sign your name, as Gale always did.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I realize many of the stories about Kotz & Fanelli throughout these two strands in the blog sound fantastic to the point of unbelieveable, so I suppose we should be more patient with the skepticism on the part of outside bloggers and CPS people. But that's what makes the story such a nightmare to those of us living through the lies, deceptions, forgeries, false accusations, mismanagement, acts of retaliation, utter cruelty, etc., that no matter how crazy and exaggerated it all sounds, it's all true!
Consider this. Re-read again my posting of June 11 about the meeting held with a few parents and CPS personnel. When confronted with these outlandish stories, what's Kotz' response?
"How do you know that?"
"Who told you that?"
"I can't discuss that."
"You're not supposed to know that!"
I think Kotz' responses are very telling.
Some of you criticize us for blogging all our grievances. But what other venue do we have? Hell, Kotz even sees to it that teachers can't talk to parents at all.
Some of you criticize us for blogging anonymously. Well, just look at all the venom spewed on Gale. That takes a lot of courage to put herself out there as she has done. But more importantly, as I explained before, I remain the the anonymous Biased Observer because I fear retaliation. That's right--retaliation. I've seen others, with my own eyes, I've seen others get hurt, and I fear for myself and my family.
And as far as I can see, there's been no rectifications and nothing with which to "move forward."
Consider this. Re-read again my posting of June 11 about the meeting held with a few parents and CPS personnel. When confronted with these outlandish stories, what's Kotz' response?
"How do you know that?"
"Who told you that?"
"I can't discuss that."
"You're not supposed to know that!"
I think Kotz' responses are very telling.
Some of you criticize us for blogging all our grievances. But what other venue do we have? Hell, Kotz even sees to it that teachers can't talk to parents at all.
Some of you criticize us for blogging anonymously. Well, just look at all the venom spewed on Gale. That takes a lot of courage to put herself out there as she has done. But more importantly, as I explained before, I remain the the anonymous Biased Observer because I fear retaliation. That's right--retaliation. I've seen others, with my own eyes, I've seen others get hurt, and I fear for myself and my family.
And as far as I can see, there's been no rectifications and nothing with which to "move forward."
Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 3:37 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
We just posted our update on Saturday's meeting at substancenews.net and then I read this entire thread.
We need a reporter to compile all this, and put it into a couple of Substance articles. Sorry we haven't had enough people to do all the stories that are out there, but CPS is like that.
I'm feeling down this weekend about Fenger High School and the elementary schools they "turnarounded". I'd have liked for us to cover each of them, and maintained contact with every teacher and other staff at each of those schools. It's also heartening, here at Gunsaulus, at Prescott and elsewhere, to be meeting so many parents who are involved, too, with real classroom concerns and not just those strange political agendas you sometimes meet on LSCs. (Here at my home, we're teachers, parents, and students. Our Web guru is a graduate of CPS -- Whitney Young and Beaubien. Our middle guy is now going into third grade, and out littlest is still a year out of kindergarten, so he's been in pre-school for two years now).
We're the truth squad, locally and now nationally, about the lies that Chicago spreads across the USA like manure on a warm spring corn field.
We need a reporter to compile all this, and put it into a couple of Substance articles. Sorry we haven't had enough people to do all the stories that are out there, but CPS is like that.
I'm feeling down this weekend about Fenger High School and the elementary schools they "turnarounded". I'd have liked for us to cover each of them, and maintained contact with every teacher and other staff at each of those schools. It's also heartening, here at Gunsaulus, at Prescott and elsewhere, to be meeting so many parents who are involved, too, with real classroom concerns and not just those strange political agendas you sometimes meet on LSCs. (Here at my home, we're teachers, parents, and students. Our Web guru is a graduate of CPS -- Whitney Young and Beaubien. Our middle guy is now going into third grade, and out littlest is still a year out of kindergarten, so he's been in pre-school for two years now).
We're the truth squad, locally and now nationally, about the lies that Chicago spreads across the USA like manure on a warm spring corn field.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Morning people,
I just wanted to put my input on things. First I will like to say that I had a ball at the Kindergarten graduation. And second, please don't sit on this blog and disrespect Gale. She has been our voice and back bone. I can't believe someone would say these things about her, when she has taken her time spoke up for everyone. Everyone have a great summer. September will turn out to be great, just pray about it.
I just wanted to put my input on things. First I will like to say that I had a ball at the Kindergarten graduation. And second, please don't sit on this blog and disrespect Gale. She has been our voice and back bone. I can't believe someone would say these things about her, when she has taken her time spoke up for everyone. Everyone have a great summer. September will turn out to be great, just pray about it.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Kindergarten Graduation?? When was this planned? My child has been in kindergarten at Gunsaulus. There was no graduation, no party, etc. All they got was a portfoilo of their work in kindergarten.
To all of you who disrespect Gale... please regret what you say. Gale is a hero for Gunsaulus. She is only a few amongst the Gunsaulus parents that speak out toward change. If you are going to offend or criticize Gale, then go away. You negative energy brings more arguments here. Praise what Gale has done.
Also, if Kotz and Fanelli comments on here, please don't put your negative energy here, too. Staff, students, parents have seen enough of you negative energy at school. Why do the people who read this blog want more negative energy?
I bet more and more negative things are popping up on the master plan for next year. How many more teachers will be released? How many more Spanish-speaking workers will there be? When will Kotz and her brigade go away? When will this reign of terror end? God help us.
To all of you who disrespect Gale... please regret what you say. Gale is a hero for Gunsaulus. She is only a few amongst the Gunsaulus parents that speak out toward change. If you are going to offend or criticize Gale, then go away. You negative energy brings more arguments here. Praise what Gale has done.
Also, if Kotz and Fanelli comments on here, please don't put your negative energy here, too. Staff, students, parents have seen enough of you negative energy at school. Why do the people who read this blog want more negative energy?
I bet more and more negative things are popping up on the master plan for next year. How many more teachers will be released? How many more Spanish-speaking workers will there be? When will Kotz and her brigade go away? When will this reign of terror end? God help us.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"How many more Spanish-speaking workers will there be?When will this reign of terror end?"
To the above poster--You have been carefully taught.
To the above poster--You have been carefully taught.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I think "!Va directora Kotz!" was taking a shot at the preceding poster, but who can tell? It was trying too hard to be clever to be coherent.
The previous poster pleads for divine intervention, "God help us," because we all know CPS won't.
The previous poster pleads for divine intervention, "God help us," because we all know CPS won't.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"How many more Spanish-speaking workers will there be?When will this reign of terror end?"
To the above poster--You have been carefully taught."
The line "You have been carefully taught" is a reference to a song in "South Pacific" in which a man is singing about prejudice, and that is is something that is taught from parent to child. The claim is that children are not naturally prejudicial.
Understand that the poster who initially used the line about the reign of terror probably does not mean to disrepect the Spanish speaking population. But I think the poster wants to make the point that the staff are let go for reasons that are not tied to how good they are at there jobs.
and for the record, Gunsaulus is not prejudiced to the SPanish speaking people. Gunsaulus people object to the great staff being fired to make way for bilungual staff, when only a very small part of the students even need bilungual help
To the above poster--You have been carefully taught."
The line "You have been carefully taught" is a reference to a song in "South Pacific" in which a man is singing about prejudice, and that is is something that is taught from parent to child. The claim is that children are not naturally prejudicial.
Understand that the poster who initially used the line about the reign of terror probably does not mean to disrepect the Spanish speaking population. But I think the poster wants to make the point that the staff are let go for reasons that are not tied to how good they are at there jobs.
and for the record, Gunsaulus is not prejudiced to the SPanish speaking people. Gunsaulus people object to the great staff being fired to make way for bilungual staff, when only a very small part of the students even need bilungual help
Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
As you can see Mr. Russo and Schmidt this blog isnt going anywhere and everyone is scared of retaliation from Kotz.
Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
...Which is all the more reason we NEED this blog. It's the only venue we have. Look, it's summer. We're not there to see what crazy things Kotz & Fanelli are cooking up now. But I guarantee, we're in for some horrendous surprises in September.
Kotz & Fanelli have learned that there's no consequences for their behavior. CPS won't act, and they've gotten away with a lot of underhanded, and illegal dirty tricks. So, what do you think. now they're going to start behaving like professional or even civilized human beings? Don't bet your life on it. And come September, we're going to need an open line of communication, and hopefully more people to take up arms.
In fact, even Biased Observer will come out of the shadows to take up the fight if I see a chance of restraining these animals and I don't have to fear retaliation. But the upshot is, we need this venue!!!!
Kotz & Fanelli have learned that there's no consequences for their behavior. CPS won't act, and they've gotten away with a lot of underhanded, and illegal dirty tricks. So, what do you think. now they're going to start behaving like professional or even civilized human beings? Don't bet your life on it. And come September, we're going to need an open line of communication, and hopefully more people to take up arms.
In fact, even Biased Observer will come out of the shadows to take up the fight if I see a chance of restraining these animals and I don't have to fear retaliation. But the upshot is, we need this venue!!!!
Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I never thought of it like that. But thanks Biased Observer we will need this blog more than ever come September.
Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Please remember that there is the LSC Organizational meeting on Wednesday, July 1st at 6:00 pm. It is there that they elect the Chair for the coming year.
Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I think the LSC meeting may start at 5:30pm. at the organizing meeting people in the audience don't get to talk you don't get to do public participation. even tho you can't talk or anything you might still should come so that finelli knows we are all watching him.
Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I think the LSC meeting may start at 5:30pm. at the organizing meeting people in the audience don't get to talk you don't get to do public participation. even tho you can't talk or anything you might still should come so that finelli knows we are all watching him.
Sun Jun 21, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
July 1st.
Election of a new chair.
Cast you vote for a better chair.
Don't let Fanelli boss you around.
Speak out!
Cast your vote for a different chair!
Listen to the people!
DON'T ELECT FANELLI FOR ANOTHER YEAR AS CHAIR!
Election of a new chair.
Cast you vote for a better chair.
Don't let Fanelli boss you around.
Speak out!
Cast your vote for a different chair!
Listen to the people!
DON'T ELECT FANELLI FOR ANOTHER YEAR AS CHAIR!
Mon Jun 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Don't you get it? The LSC is part of the problem. With few exceptions, they're all Kotz-Fanelli collaborators, or simply too ignorant and indifferent to act on their own thinking and conscience.
Mon Jun 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
For the LSC election, who gets to vote. Is it the people or the LSC members.
Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
No, we don't have any say in this election. The indifferent, ignorant LSC members that WE elected have that responsibility. However, a large crowd present could send a loud message to the LSC members that they are being watched and that they need to rise from their ignorant, indifferent slumber.
On the other hand, I could see Kotz & Fanelli being slithery enough to come up with a plot to elect someone different as chairman to draw away attention, putting up a puppet who would allow Fanelli to keep control of things from behind the scenes.
Kotz & Fanelli are thinking, "Damn, how do they always know what we're thinking?"
On the other hand, I could see Kotz & Fanelli being slithery enough to come up with a plot to elect someone different as chairman to draw away attention, putting up a puppet who would allow Fanelli to keep control of things from behind the scenes.
Kotz & Fanelli are thinking, "Damn, how do they always know what we're thinking?"
Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Fanelli wont give up his spot without a fight, even if it means taking people to court on false information. He has done it before. I really don't think he would put one of his ignorant puppets up to becoming chair, he "owns" that spot. He "owns" that school and he "owns" Kotz. He is the king of the hill, and I'm sure he thinks he and Kotz have done no wrong, so they will continue to behave in the same ignorant manner they have created, ignorance is bliss.
Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
This one is so much fun that one of our long-term guys (Joseph Guzman, who served on the Juarez LSC for years and years) is going to cover the whole story for Substance. I just couldn't figure out how to write it up utilizing only the first 200,000 words that came out here, so we're going with what we can get. Sorry about the delay. Long line of tales told by a long line of idiots out there...
Prescott
Brooks HS
Price
Field
Coonley
etc. etc. etc. etc.
and lots lots more.
Actually, the neat thing is that the majority of principals are not screaming crazy megalomaniacal a__ holes, although by the time Mr. Metrics is done, they might be...
Sounds lie a plan to me.
It'll just take some time, but fun. Sorry for the delay.
Meanwhile, we're also working on getting some signal photographs to memorialize this whole thing, people, locations, sights to behold. So let us know when the next LSC meeting is.
And our colleagues out West are going to be sure to try and ask Arne Duncan Thursday (when he delivers his "merit pay" nonsense as a speech to the NEA RA) why he keeps pushing NEW SPHINCTERS FOR NEW TYRANNIES -- er., "New Leaders for New Schools" -- shake and bake version of how to create those geniuses who are going to novelty America's public schools to death if the other 49 states let him bully them into it.
We're still short Gunsaulus photographs, but that problem will be solved soon, too.
Meanwhile, how are things going at Julian High School. Was that really a deal cut with WPO to get Ron into the National News cycle courtesy of the same corporation that left the insects in the IDS materials they sent to the high schools in May?
Stay tuned.
Prescott
Brooks HS
Price
Field
Coonley
etc. etc. etc. etc.
and lots lots more.
Actually, the neat thing is that the majority of principals are not screaming crazy megalomaniacal a__ holes, although by the time Mr. Metrics is done, they might be...
Sounds lie a plan to me.
It'll just take some time, but fun. Sorry for the delay.
Meanwhile, we're also working on getting some signal photographs to memorialize this whole thing, people, locations, sights to behold. So let us know when the next LSC meeting is.
And our colleagues out West are going to be sure to try and ask Arne Duncan Thursday (when he delivers his "merit pay" nonsense as a speech to the NEA RA) why he keeps pushing NEW SPHINCTERS FOR NEW TYRANNIES -- er., "New Leaders for New Schools" -- shake and bake version of how to create those geniuses who are going to novelty America's public schools to death if the other 49 states let him bully them into it.
We're still short Gunsaulus photographs, but that problem will be solved soon, too.
Meanwhile, how are things going at Julian High School. Was that really a deal cut with WPO to get Ron into the National News cycle courtesy of the same corporation that left the insects in the IDS materials they sent to the high schools in May?
Stay tuned.
Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Fenalli will maintain his spot, because he is the only one qualified for the job. Haters beware, he is not going anywhere anytime soon:)
Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You say Fanelli is the only one qualified for the job. Just as Kotz is the only right fit and the only principal who ever did anything good for Gunsaulus. And any of us who don't agree are "haters".
I know you Kotz-Fanelli sycophants don't like the Nazi comparisons, but you keep setting yourselves up for it. The hapless Nazis also believed there was only one man who could save Germany.
Be careful of that cultish hero-worship, especially when you're dealing with sociopathic megalomaniacs like Kotz & Fanelli.
I know you Kotz-Fanelli sycophants don't like the Nazi comparisons, but you keep setting yourselves up for it. The hapless Nazis also believed there was only one man who could save Germany.
Be careful of that cultish hero-worship, especially when you're dealing with sociopathic megalomaniacs like Kotz & Fanelli.
Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Somebody wrote this-
Fenalli will maintain his spot, because he is the only one qualified for the job. Haters beware, he is not going anywhere anytime soon:)
That really is very true. fanelli may be bad but at least he is smarter thatn the rest of the dummies.Maria Sedekis John White Dorothy Motisik and Rene costaza are some of the most stupid people on the earth This are the only parents that are supposed to speak for the rest of us what a joke.We all need to come out on July 1st to the LSC meeting. You can call me a hater because that is true. I do hate them. Maria you better watch what you say because when I listen to you talk you think I like you but I just repeat what you say to everybody else so that you look bad. Even Ms. Kotz laughs at you behind your back. Even fanelli is going to make you out to look like the bad guy so yu better be carefull. We are stuck with this lsc until somebody does something about it.
Fenalli will maintain his spot, because he is the only one qualified for the job. Haters beware, he is not going anywhere anytime soon:)
That really is very true. fanelli may be bad but at least he is smarter thatn the rest of the dummies.Maria Sedekis John White Dorothy Motisik and Rene costaza are some of the most stupid people on the earth This are the only parents that are supposed to speak for the rest of us what a joke.We all need to come out on July 1st to the LSC meeting. You can call me a hater because that is true. I do hate them. Maria you better watch what you say because when I listen to you talk you think I like you but I just repeat what you say to everybody else so that you look bad. Even Ms. Kotz laughs at you behind your back. Even fanelli is going to make you out to look like the bad guy so yu better be carefull. We are stuck with this lsc until somebody does something about it.
Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Speaking of dummies, have you ever heard of spell check? Your bad grammar is an embarrassment to this blog. Let me guess, you are in summer school? And you forgot another LSC "dummy"....... I'll give you a clue, it's another woman. And Rene Costanza is the only parent trying to change the line up, so take that grasshopper.
Wed Jul 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Just a heads up-
I heard from Roberto in the office that the LSC meeting has been postponed until July 8th. but no time was given.
I have no idea if this information is accurate. I have been calling Gunsaulus since Monday, and drove by the school yesterday to try to find out what time the LSC meeting starts. No one answered the phone until this aftennon. When I drove to the school yesterday, there was no agenda posted on the school, nor did anyone answer the door at 11:00 in the morning, although the lights were on, and I could hear someone's stereo from inside the school.
I texted an LSC member today, and she said she thought the meeting was at 6:00 but would check and get back to me, but I have yet to hear a follow up reponse. I emailed another LSC member to inquire, but have not heard back.
If I hear anything definite, I will post here. It's clear, though, that at least two LSC members as of this morning had not heard about any rescheduling of tonight's meeting.
I heard from Roberto in the office that the LSC meeting has been postponed until July 8th. but no time was given.
I have no idea if this information is accurate. I have been calling Gunsaulus since Monday, and drove by the school yesterday to try to find out what time the LSC meeting starts. No one answered the phone until this aftennon. When I drove to the school yesterday, there was no agenda posted on the school, nor did anyone answer the door at 11:00 in the morning, although the lights were on, and I could hear someone's stereo from inside the school.
I texted an LSC member today, and she said she thought the meeting was at 6:00 but would check and get back to me, but I have yet to hear a follow up reponse. I emailed another LSC member to inquire, but have not heard back.
If I hear anything definite, I will post here. It's clear, though, that at least two LSC members as of this morning had not heard about any rescheduling of tonight's meeting.
Wed Jul 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
There was NO organizational meeting tonight. It apparently was cancelled, but not all of the LSC members had been informed. One member did show up and had not been notified of the cancellation. There is no information as to when the next meeting will be. I will try to get the information and post it here.
Fri Jul 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Glibness/Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievments)
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
Well, does this fit the personality of anyone we know??? Kotz needs help and I hope she gets some. The students nor parents want the kind of madness here at Gunsaulus. At the LSC meeting there were several lights on in the school. Who could be in their??
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievments)
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
Well, does this fit the personality of anyone we know??? Kotz needs help and I hope she gets some. The students nor parents want the kind of madness here at Gunsaulus. At the LSC meeting there were several lights on in the school. Who could be in their??
Fri Jul 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Glibness/Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievments)
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievments)
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
Fri Jul 3, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You heard Gale. When she was there, the lights were on, music was playing, etc. Yet, no one would open the door. And why was Arrona there? Shouldn't he be at home? Oh wait, that's right. He's part of the Kotz Posse, or the Bilingual Friends of Kotz Association. Maybe he's the one behind it all. Why is he in the school? Why is Fanelli still in the school? I say, if there's not going to be an LSC meeting, then Fanelli shouldn't be in the school. That CPS badge of his, which shouldn't be his, lets him have complete access to the school.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 1:40 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
We tried to run as much of this strange story about the non-meeting at Gunsaulus as we could piece together at www.substancenews.net. Somebody should be pulling together narratives about all the creepy principals currently roaring into Chicago to shake things up on behalf of the New Order. New Leaders for New Schools and the other training programs are coaching these inexperienced arrogants (just coined a noun, sorry) using phrases like "get rid of the dinosaurs" and "flush out the old".
That's not leadership, it's stupidity. Unless the objective is to destroy Chicago's public schools, these people should have never been given permission to barge in. There are any number of organizations that require long-term training and experience before people are brought into leadership, from the U.S. military to most of the nations remaining successful corporations. This promotion of novelty at any cost is destroying public schools.
That's not leadership, it's stupidity. Unless the objective is to destroy Chicago's public schools, these people should have never been given permission to barge in. There are any number of organizations that require long-term training and experience before people are brought into leadership, from the U.S. military to most of the nations remaining successful corporations. This promotion of novelty at any cost is destroying public schools.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
these new leaders are trained to do this AND then they get support to DO this from their AIO--so of course the new leader is going to listen tothe AIO--the AIO evaluates them. I also think that new leaders MUST give AIOs some extra $ for taking in these inexperienced arrogants into their school--if not money--something. It is a shame!
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The viewpoint should really be "Good Leaders for Good Schools.
You can't really lead something you don't know, and anyone who believes she understands a complex human entity (military, corporate, educational) by staring at it through the periscope these people use from the bottom of a spreadsheet (i.e., "data driven management") is a fool.
It seems to be a tradition for the solipsistic, although it's certainly not generational. It's more the perversity of people who were raised to believe they are the center of every universe they bless with their presence.
They probably also think that shower nozzle is providing them with true love when they turn it to warm, but not too hot, and finish off that particular Leadership exercise with "Oh, Jesus!"
You can't really lead something you don't know, and anyone who believes she understands a complex human entity (military, corporate, educational) by staring at it through the periscope these people use from the bottom of a spreadsheet (i.e., "data driven management") is a fool.
It seems to be a tradition for the solipsistic, although it's certainly not generational. It's more the perversity of people who were raised to believe they are the center of every universe they bless with their presence.
They probably also think that shower nozzle is providing them with true love when they turn it to warm, but not too hot, and finish off that particular Leadership exercise with "Oh, Jesus!"
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 7:28 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
your last line above should be in a book of famous quotes. I do hope that you thought it with a smile on your face or at least in your brain and not with anger. Oh, I understand the anger, I feel it too at times with CPS and our children, but please, anger can kill/damage you and we need you now, more then ever!
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I just want to start by saying that I know Amy Kotz AND I am not a fan of hers. I have kept up on the Gunsaulus story and completely empathize with your situation. As a teacher myself, I also experienced a principal like this as well. It was actually the reason that led me to administration...so that I could be a part of something positive in a school, provide effective leadership, build teacher capacity by supporting teachers, and move a school forward.
It doesn't sound as if Amy Kotz is doing any of this. In saying this, I just want to say, for the record, that not all new prinipals are like this either. I am new and have been able to successfully build releationships with my staff as well as with the school community by being open about problems, listening to input from others, and being solution focused.
With all of this said, I do think that George and many others also need to understand that there is somewhat of a need to remove some teachers who are not doing the best job for our students. As I observe teachers, I keep one thought in my head that guides me with my evaluation. It is, "Would I want this teacher teaching MY kids?" If the answer is no, as an administrator who wants the best for all students, I have to take a hard look about what that teacher is doing on a regular basis. If it means getting her or him out, I am completely prepared to do so. Keep in mind folks that there is a reason that 92% of the CPS teachers are either given a superior or excellent rating, and I can assure you, it's not because 92% of them are superior. It's because administrators haven't done their jobs in making sure that our students have the absolute BEST teaching them.
So, to George (who has the tendency to say that ALL administrators are horrible) and to everyone else who thinks that administrators should leave teachers alone, I really hope that the administrators, like myself, who are doing the best for kids by expecting that ALL staff members are doing the job up to a great standard, that we don't end up on a blog like this for wanting to put the best teachers in front of our students.
I have a staff full of wonderful teachers (with the exception of 4). I can tell you now that these 4 are not doing what's best for kids. They are detremental to learning and I would not be doing my job if I continue to allow it. So I say this, next year, I will be starting the E-3 process of at least 2 of them. If this lands me on a blog, when I know very good and well that these teachers shouldn't be teaching any longer (and they are veteran teachers) so be it. I REFUSE to have children to be given a second rate education because the Union doesn't want administrators to have the best teachers in front of the children. This doesn't make me a tyrant, it makes me concerned for the students who I am responsible for.
Sorry for the soap box, but because of the 5 or 6 new principals who are not doing the right things, I am tired of being lumped into the mix with them as this new breed of administrators who gets rid of veteran teachers. I am going to tell you how it is... If you are a verteran teacher at my school not doing right by the children, I will E-3 you. If you are a new teacher not doing right by kids, I will E-3 you too. For me, it's not about veteran or not, it's about who is and who isn't teaching the students.
The Union protects good teachers from principal tyrants; however, it also protects horrible teachers from the adminstrators who are trying to do right by the students. It's a catch 22, but if you read George's point of view (that he puts out over and over and over again) he must think that ALL teachers are doing exactly as they should be and that the administator behind the "plot" to get rid of them is the lowest most vile thing on the planet. This is just not the case!!!
It doesn't sound as if Amy Kotz is doing any of this. In saying this, I just want to say, for the record, that not all new prinipals are like this either. I am new and have been able to successfully build releationships with my staff as well as with the school community by being open about problems, listening to input from others, and being solution focused.
With all of this said, I do think that George and many others also need to understand that there is somewhat of a need to remove some teachers who are not doing the best job for our students. As I observe teachers, I keep one thought in my head that guides me with my evaluation. It is, "Would I want this teacher teaching MY kids?" If the answer is no, as an administrator who wants the best for all students, I have to take a hard look about what that teacher is doing on a regular basis. If it means getting her or him out, I am completely prepared to do so. Keep in mind folks that there is a reason that 92% of the CPS teachers are either given a superior or excellent rating, and I can assure you, it's not because 92% of them are superior. It's because administrators haven't done their jobs in making sure that our students have the absolute BEST teaching them.
So, to George (who has the tendency to say that ALL administrators are horrible) and to everyone else who thinks that administrators should leave teachers alone, I really hope that the administrators, like myself, who are doing the best for kids by expecting that ALL staff members are doing the job up to a great standard, that we don't end up on a blog like this for wanting to put the best teachers in front of our students.
I have a staff full of wonderful teachers (with the exception of 4). I can tell you now that these 4 are not doing what's best for kids. They are detremental to learning and I would not be doing my job if I continue to allow it. So I say this, next year, I will be starting the E-3 process of at least 2 of them. If this lands me on a blog, when I know very good and well that these teachers shouldn't be teaching any longer (and they are veteran teachers) so be it. I REFUSE to have children to be given a second rate education because the Union doesn't want administrators to have the best teachers in front of the children. This doesn't make me a tyrant, it makes me concerned for the students who I am responsible for.
Sorry for the soap box, but because of the 5 or 6 new principals who are not doing the right things, I am tired of being lumped into the mix with them as this new breed of administrators who gets rid of veteran teachers. I am going to tell you how it is... If you are a verteran teacher at my school not doing right by the children, I will E-3 you. If you are a new teacher not doing right by kids, I will E-3 you too. For me, it's not about veteran or not, it's about who is and who isn't teaching the students.
The Union protects good teachers from principal tyrants; however, it also protects horrible teachers from the adminstrators who are trying to do right by the students. It's a catch 22, but if you read George's point of view (that he puts out over and over and over again) he must think that ALL teachers are doing exactly as they should be and that the administator behind the "plot" to get rid of them is the lowest most vile thing on the planet. This is just not the case!!!
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I can empathize with you (principals)--it is funny how with SOME teachers, how long they stay/survive at a school, SOME teachers think that they can now stop teaching--when asking them for an/or to discuss their lesson plans, they act like you have asked for a share of their pension. New principals could use more and BETTER support from CURRENT principals, esp. those who have gone through similar situations. And the principal spoken of here has done a Herculean job because--and sorry some teachers, not ALL of you are superior or excellent. Very few are lazy and refuse to teach and to them, new and experienced principals are saying, “no more.”
If you are teaching your students, you will never find a more supportive patron-principal, but if you are not, we will work together of course, but no or refused instructional improvement, means the use of E-3.
If you are teaching your students, you will never find a more supportive patron-principal, but if you are not, we will work together of course, but no or refused instructional improvement, means the use of E-3.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I applaud you. I am a veteran teacher (28 years) and it sickens me how a few truly ineffective/lazy teachers are allowed to coast and are continually given great ratings. I work hard in a school I love. Several principals have come through and this never changes. The only teachers gotten rid of here are ones that have shown up drunk or high. We have great teachers who work hard who are given the same ratings as the ones who have kids copy the chapter and have them just write out the questions at the end of each chapter. As long as they are not in an area that is tested (math, science, English) the principals just don't care - as long as the class is orderly. I would welcome a principal (not that walkthrough BS) that really took the time to monitor teachers.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"...With all of this said, I do think that George and many others also need to understand that there is somewhat of a need to remove some teachers who are not doing the best job for our students. As I observe teachers, I keep one thought in my head that guides me with my evaluation. It is, "Would I want this teacher teaching MY kids?" (CPS principal, earlier July 4).
Whoa, CPS Principal.
The paradox here is that if we were to profile principals who were treating everyone decently and doing a good job, those principals would go on the mayor's Hit List. And the Death Squads would be staffed by Ron Huberman's Skippies and Buffies. So you're probably better off not getting our public thanks yous. Later, when the tyrant is dead and the tyranny has been overthrown, maybe.
As you know, a large number of our subscribers at Substance are principals. Ditto other support. Those in the main office who realize that "principal" is an adjective the modifies "teacher" will always do a good job.
For the past two years, especially, the CPS Hit List (closings; reconstitutions -- er., "turnarounds" --; phase outs; transformations; transubstantiations; or whatever they'll be calling the screwings next year) has been an amazing thing to watch.
In just about every school (and for 2009 that was 22 schools on the Hit List Huberman inherited from Duncan) the principal worked with the teachers, parents, and students to stand up to the tyrants and the tyrannies. Some were more forceful than others, and some brought a sense of style that I'm glad we were able to "memorialize" in out reports. Virtually every one showed courage standing up for the complexity of what they were doing and the jobs of their teachers, lunchroom people, and the rest who were about to be destroyed by the Duncan (now Huberman) juggernaut.
Some even "won." I was at a north side elementary school in the dark back in January with teachers, parents, children and the principal when Peabody learned it had been taken of the Hit List. Immediately, the next day, they went over to support Carpenter, which was still under the axe from "Ogden High School."
We have photographs of more than 60 CPS principals standing tall with their teachers and telling the "hearing officers" that the Hit List was wrong and the criteria were nonsense.
Of course, the members of the Board of Education didn't attend most of the hearings, didn't listen to the teachers, parents, children and -- yes -- principals describe the complexity of reality. And they certainly don't care, because the seven dwarfs currently operating as the "Chicago Board of Education" are robotic free market nut cases. Their "bottom lines" are all they care about. You can't communicate with these people in normal ways. They still talk as if their philosophy and praxis were in power -- despite the fact that their absurd notions of human reality just destroyed the global economy they prattled about for years and brought incredible misery to millions of people (including those they personally voted to destroy).
That said, the teachers have gotten together lately, with CORE leading, to stand up, month after month against the tyrants.
The parents and community groups that aren't whoring for foundation dollars are standing up, organized anew as GEM.
And the principals have stood up, many of them, and been reported (especially lately) at substancenews.net. They've come a long way from the days when Bev Tunney used to hang out at the Evergreen Theater watching "Patton" reruns (or their equivalent) and sharing fascist fantasies with Paul Vallas.
But Clarice Berry has been screamingly silent the past seven months, in the face of the worst principal bashing in history. Every school on the Hit List last winter had a principal on the bull's eye. And now Arne Duncan's travelling road show is trying to export that garbage as policy to the entire USA.
Every time I answer the phone, it's an interesting experience. We know very well how many decent people are still in the principals' offices in Chicago's schools (the vast majority). That's an amazing thing to be able to say after 14 years of fascist lies trumpeted from City Hall and the Civic Committee to their propagandists out there among the "media" that currently disgraces the history of a town that once wrote the book on how to report the news.
Whoa, CPS Principal.
The paradox here is that if we were to profile principals who were treating everyone decently and doing a good job, those principals would go on the mayor's Hit List. And the Death Squads would be staffed by Ron Huberman's Skippies and Buffies. So you're probably better off not getting our public thanks yous. Later, when the tyrant is dead and the tyranny has been overthrown, maybe.
As you know, a large number of our subscribers at Substance are principals. Ditto other support. Those in the main office who realize that "principal" is an adjective the modifies "teacher" will always do a good job.
For the past two years, especially, the CPS Hit List (closings; reconstitutions -- er., "turnarounds" --; phase outs; transformations; transubstantiations; or whatever they'll be calling the screwings next year) has been an amazing thing to watch.
In just about every school (and for 2009 that was 22 schools on the Hit List Huberman inherited from Duncan) the principal worked with the teachers, parents, and students to stand up to the tyrants and the tyrannies. Some were more forceful than others, and some brought a sense of style that I'm glad we were able to "memorialize" in out reports. Virtually every one showed courage standing up for the complexity of what they were doing and the jobs of their teachers, lunchroom people, and the rest who were about to be destroyed by the Duncan (now Huberman) juggernaut.
Some even "won." I was at a north side elementary school in the dark back in January with teachers, parents, children and the principal when Peabody learned it had been taken of the Hit List. Immediately, the next day, they went over to support Carpenter, which was still under the axe from "Ogden High School."
We have photographs of more than 60 CPS principals standing tall with their teachers and telling the "hearing officers" that the Hit List was wrong and the criteria were nonsense.
Of course, the members of the Board of Education didn't attend most of the hearings, didn't listen to the teachers, parents, children and -- yes -- principals describe the complexity of reality. And they certainly don't care, because the seven dwarfs currently operating as the "Chicago Board of Education" are robotic free market nut cases. Their "bottom lines" are all they care about. You can't communicate with these people in normal ways. They still talk as if their philosophy and praxis were in power -- despite the fact that their absurd notions of human reality just destroyed the global economy they prattled about for years and brought incredible misery to millions of people (including those they personally voted to destroy).
That said, the teachers have gotten together lately, with CORE leading, to stand up, month after month against the tyrants.
The parents and community groups that aren't whoring for foundation dollars are standing up, organized anew as GEM.
And the principals have stood up, many of them, and been reported (especially lately) at substancenews.net. They've come a long way from the days when Bev Tunney used to hang out at the Evergreen Theater watching "Patton" reruns (or their equivalent) and sharing fascist fantasies with Paul Vallas.
But Clarice Berry has been screamingly silent the past seven months, in the face of the worst principal bashing in history. Every school on the Hit List last winter had a principal on the bull's eye. And now Arne Duncan's travelling road show is trying to export that garbage as policy to the entire USA.
Every time I answer the phone, it's an interesting experience. We know very well how many decent people are still in the principals' offices in Chicago's schools (the vast majority). That's an amazing thing to be able to say after 14 years of fascist lies trumpeted from City Hall and the Civic Committee to their propagandists out there among the "media" that currently disgraces the history of a town that once wrote the book on how to report the news.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"...your last line above should be in a book of famous quotes. I do hope that you thought it with a smile on your face or at least in your brain and not with anger..." (you are too much, earlier).
I was smiling, but also angry. I had just finished going over the photographs of those special education classrooms and that autistic child from Prescott. Then thinking back to the program for children with autism that Michael Scott and Arne Duncan destroyed at LeMoyne four years ago. And that child with Down Syndrome clapping with his friends from Andersen at the Andersen show trial in front of that odious "hearing officer" in February 2008. And my memories of Spalding the first time I subbed there and learned what those ramps were for. And the Halloween I spend at Blair, talking with the teachers and teacher aides while those little children, some of whom needed two adults to assure their safety in that fire drill, were happily doing their version of Halloween three years ago.
Sorry. There has to be some anger. My father, late in his life, told me that he happened to drive the jeep that took his regimental commander first into one of those death camps in Bavaria in 1945. He taught me that people who preach Social Darwinism and eugenices are just one step this side of the people who did those things within some of our lifetimes. Call it the "fascism spectrum" -- and it's a lot worse than any of those described by special education.
When I asked him why he waited until the 8th decade of his life to tell me that story, his answer was simple: There is some evil that words cannot describe.
In each of the increments heading in that direction, we have to have a little anger in order to organize and stop these people. Always. Not a lot, and often with a laugh or at least a smile.
But now I've got to go and look at that pre-school child from Andersen two years ago who had no way of knowing that Arne Duncan was about to destroy the nicest thing outside his Mom and Dad in his young life.
I was smiling, but also angry. I had just finished going over the photographs of those special education classrooms and that autistic child from Prescott. Then thinking back to the program for children with autism that Michael Scott and Arne Duncan destroyed at LeMoyne four years ago. And that child with Down Syndrome clapping with his friends from Andersen at the Andersen show trial in front of that odious "hearing officer" in February 2008. And my memories of Spalding the first time I subbed there and learned what those ramps were for. And the Halloween I spend at Blair, talking with the teachers and teacher aides while those little children, some of whom needed two adults to assure their safety in that fire drill, were happily doing their version of Halloween three years ago.
Sorry. There has to be some anger. My father, late in his life, told me that he happened to drive the jeep that took his regimental commander first into one of those death camps in Bavaria in 1945. He taught me that people who preach Social Darwinism and eugenices are just one step this side of the people who did those things within some of our lifetimes. Call it the "fascism spectrum" -- and it's a lot worse than any of those described by special education.
When I asked him why he waited until the 8th decade of his life to tell me that story, his answer was simple: There is some evil that words cannot describe.
In each of the increments heading in that direction, we have to have a little anger in order to organize and stop these people. Always. Not a lot, and often with a laugh or at least a smile.
But now I've got to go and look at that pre-school child from Andersen two years ago who had no way of knowing that Arne Duncan was about to destroy the nicest thing outside his Mom and Dad in his young life.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Dear Bum Rap and George: I admire both of you. George, after awhile, despite your colorful streams of sometimes rambling outrage, one can see through the rifting style and know you are a good man for the job of holding people accountable - do take care of yourself because school communities, especially like the teachers, parents and students at Gunnsaulus, need you. In your own way, George, you are a city treasure and you personify in many ways a distinct Chicago reformist style I'm glad is still alive and well here.
And Principal, thank you for articulating so well why the best principals in the system are needed. You may make mistakes, as all bosses do, but I can see you are an honest, self reflective individual who is highly motivated and knows how to grow bigger and better with the responsibility of your job. Both the veterans and the PATs are safe in your hands if they too know how to grow and become better. I've always appreciated the guidance I've gotten from the several principals I've been lucky enough to have. It makes me just that more motivated to do better when I respect the person who is guiding me. Thank you for coming into this blog and showing us something of the bar for a good principal.
And Principal, thank you for articulating so well why the best principals in the system are needed. You may make mistakes, as all bosses do, but I can see you are an honest, self reflective individual who is highly motivated and knows how to grow bigger and better with the responsibility of your job. Both the veterans and the PATs are safe in your hands if they too know how to grow and become better. I've always appreciated the guidance I've gotten from the several principals I've been lucky enough to have. It makes me just that more motivated to do better when I respect the person who is guiding me. Thank you for coming into this blog and showing us something of the bar for a good principal.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I hope you stay and continue to contribute. Your balance and insight from a principal's perspective will make this blog even more interesting and fun.
from: VT (veteran teacher)
from: VT (veteran teacher)
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
True. Not all the principals and administrators are horrible.
BUT, are you constanly being bossed around by the LSC chair? Well, Amy Kotz follows every thing that Fanelli (the LSC chair) tells her to do. Fanelli is probably the reason why so many teachers were released.
Also, Fanelli rigged the election for a new principal. He saw that Kotz was the one that HE and ONLY HE can control. So, he told everyone on the LSC to go HIS way, and elect Kotz as the new principal.
So, since you are a great principal, you have control over the entire school, right? Well, if you don't, then don't let the LSC chair, like that stupid weasel, boss you around. It's you school. Not the LSC chair's school.
Continue being a great principal.
BUT, are you constanly being bossed around by the LSC chair? Well, Amy Kotz follows every thing that Fanelli (the LSC chair) tells her to do. Fanelli is probably the reason why so many teachers were released.
Also, Fanelli rigged the election for a new principal. He saw that Kotz was the one that HE and ONLY HE can control. So, he told everyone on the LSC to go HIS way, and elect Kotz as the new principal.
So, since you are a great principal, you have control over the entire school, right? Well, if you don't, then don't let the LSC chair, like that stupid weasel, boss you around. It's you school. Not the LSC chair's school.
Continue being a great principal.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
This is the deal she made. Don't paint all principals with the same wide brush.
Sat Jul 4, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Listen--I work for the best--that's right, the best--and most professional principal in CPS at Kelly High School (He doesn't read this blog, so this isn't just ordinary butt-kissin'), and I know there's other good principals out there as well. BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANT TO THIS PARTICULAR BLOG.
This blog is about the worst--that's right, the worst--and most unprofessional principal in CPS. Everything you've read in this blog--the lies, deceptions, conniving, underhandedness, bullying, intimidation, retaliation, harassment, forgeries, false accusations, multiple calls to the police, DCFS, and Inspector General, mail fraud, racial slurs, the mass-firings of good teachers & staff, etc., is all well-documented, and that's the purpose of this blog. There's no reason for other principals to take this personally. And I don't see George Schmidt taking good principals to task.
And as far as Kotz shaking hands with the devil, it's like the historical equivalent of the Hitler-Stalin Pact. Kotz & Fanelli are two opportunists who would both turn on each other in a minute if there was something to gain from it. But as it is, they do well for each other and both profit handsomely from their diabolical relationship.
This blog is about the worst--that's right, the worst--and most unprofessional principal in CPS. Everything you've read in this blog--the lies, deceptions, conniving, underhandedness, bullying, intimidation, retaliation, harassment, forgeries, false accusations, multiple calls to the police, DCFS, and Inspector General, mail fraud, racial slurs, the mass-firings of good teachers & staff, etc., is all well-documented, and that's the purpose of this blog. There's no reason for other principals to take this personally. And I don't see George Schmidt taking good principals to task.
And as far as Kotz shaking hands with the devil, it's like the historical equivalent of the Hitler-Stalin Pact. Kotz & Fanelli are two opportunists who would both turn on each other in a minute if there was something to gain from it. But as it is, they do well for each other and both profit handsomely from their diabolical relationship.
Sun Jul 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"both profit handsomely from their diabolical relationship."
He volunteers at the school, he does NOT get paid for anything he does there. He works on the tech, saving big $$ FOR the school and he works on LSC--no pay there either.
So how does he profit?
By creating a great educational environment.
He volunteers at the school, he does NOT get paid for anything he does there. He works on the tech, saving big $$ FOR the school and he works on LSC--no pay there either.
So how does he profit?
By creating a great educational environment.
Sun Jul 5, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Profit does not necessarily mean financial profit. We've been through this before. Kotz & Fanelli both seem to get off in some twisted sort of way in controlling and hurting other people. That's their profit.
Sun Jul 5, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I see him around the school doinf work FOR the school as a volunteer, how much do you volunteer there? if you did, you would not list the profit you have listed.
Sun Jul 5, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
This is absolutely ridiculous that after all the damage & chaos that has happened, and is still happening at Gunsaulus, all catalogued on this rather lengthy blog, for anyone too still play dumb and ignorant about the crimes and misdemeanors of Kotz & Fanelli. Sure, CPS officials have the indifference and audacity to pretend all is fine, but for them, ignorance is a virtue. But anyone at Gunsaulus that still sides with K&F is just as neck-deep in their filth. So just quit with the bovine excrement about Fanelli's benevolent volunteerism and Kotz' "leadership" fixing all the problems Gunsaulus has endured for years just waiting for a take-charge principal like her. Ugh!!!
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Have you seen Fanelli in action at the LSC? If you have been to even ONE LSC meeting this year, then you shuld be able to see that he only serves HIMSELF, and not Gunsaulus. and we all know why he "volunteers" at the school. to get private information about teachers, staff, students and parents from his having access to all of the computers, and his having keys to the building. So he can use the information to intimidate and threaten people who won't do his and Amy's bidding. Even those that do their bidding are still fearful of retaliation. What has Fanelli ever done to help Gunsaulus? I've only ever seen him help himself and Amy.
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Yes, Fanelli gets a "high" from thinking he is in control. When he found Kotz he hit the jackpot. It is well known that he has said to employees, especially PSRP's "I got you the job" or "I'll keep your job in the budget" especially if the person's position was funded by discretionary funds. And yes it has happened with discretionary funded teachers also.Let's not forget the first thing Kotz did as principal was to cut our superior art teacher out of the budget. mmmmm, Let's not also forget that the art teacher happened to be on the LSC and OFTEN disagreed with Fanelli's majority. Is that a surprise? Kotz is just waiting for the one year required before hiring another art teacher.
Yes--the LSC could not find the money to support the best elementary art program in the city but it was no problem to hire two Literacy Couches (oops I meant Coaches) that never see a child, can't help with Dibbles testing, and basically sit in an office all day except to monopolize teachers valuable time during grade level meetings. Seriously, how many schools of our size have TWO literacy coaches?
Yes, for YEARS Fanelli has been telling people HE can keep them in the budget. Fanelli invented "phishing" He talks to all the teachers trying to get info on others. I witnessed him talking to our old security guard. That security guard then said to me, "Yea Fanelli going to talk to Kotz about my transfer" The reality? Fanelli was just trying to pump him for information.
How many people have heard Fanelli say "my school" "my staff"?No question, he is a control freak that has found someone in Kotz who will allow it.
He must have an "admin password" for all computers in the school if he is our "tech" guy.
He also knows where ALL the teachers in the school live since he's in the office and has access to that info. And in the past Fanelli HAS used that info against teachers who crossed him.
His volunteerism is just a way for Fanelli to be a control freak.
Why do you think he's been the LSC chair for 11 years?
Yes--the LSC could not find the money to support the best elementary art program in the city but it was no problem to hire two Literacy Couches (oops I meant Coaches) that never see a child, can't help with Dibbles testing, and basically sit in an office all day except to monopolize teachers valuable time during grade level meetings. Seriously, how many schools of our size have TWO literacy coaches?
Yes, for YEARS Fanelli has been telling people HE can keep them in the budget. Fanelli invented "phishing" He talks to all the teachers trying to get info on others. I witnessed him talking to our old security guard. That security guard then said to me, "Yea Fanelli going to talk to Kotz about my transfer" The reality? Fanelli was just trying to pump him for information.
How many people have heard Fanelli say "my school" "my staff"?No question, he is a control freak that has found someone in Kotz who will allow it.
He must have an "admin password" for all computers in the school if he is our "tech" guy.
He also knows where ALL the teachers in the school live since he's in the office and has access to that info. And in the past Fanelli HAS used that info against teachers who crossed him.
His volunteerism is just a way for Fanelli to be a control freak.
Why do you think he's been the LSC chair for 11 years?
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM
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"He also knows where ALL the teachers in the school live since he's in the office and has access to that info. And in the past Fanelli HAS used that info against teachers who crossed him."
Do you mean if they were in violation of the residency code? or somehing more sinister (like what)? -- not that their address is his business - even if they are in violation.
Do you mean if they were in violation of the residency code? or somehing more sinister (like what)? -- not that their address is his business - even if they are in violation.
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM
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Can anyone say "blackmail"? Sometimes, hate to admit, people have skeletons in their closets, such as a teacher living in the suburbs. What a horrible crime that is!!! But don't worry, Fanelli will keep that information close to the vest, as long as you play ball with him. But if you cross him, would he use that information against you?
If you think Fanelli is so benevolent and trust him, go ahead and confide something to him. I'm sure he'll never use it against you.
Conversely, he's not worried about anyone having anything on him. Look at this whole blog. There's lots on him, yet, there's never any consequences. I need to hear an explanation how that works.
If you think Fanelli is so benevolent and trust him, go ahead and confide something to him. I'm sure he'll never use it against you.
Conversely, he's not worried about anyone having anything on him. Look at this whole blog. There's lots on him, yet, there's never any consequences. I need to hear an explanation how that works.
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM
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When are you teachers going to grow some cojones and hire an attorney? Pool your money and file a class action..it is cheaper than therapy, retail, or otherwise. Otherwise, stop whining because you are spinnning your wheels and giving other principals ideas....
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Have you guys ever went to the school and seen Fanelli just walk the halls looking around with his hands behind his back like he is the principal. Kotz should be ashamed of herself for allowing this man to do this.Isn't she the head master of the school.
I still say she has no heart, for hurting families the way she has done. This behavior only shows that she has no love for children, it's all about getting paid. I am going to sit back and observe what she has in store for us come September. Please pray, because she doesn't realize that the children doesn't want to come back to Gunsaulus. It's sad that we as parents have to walk around scared to say something because of what she might do to our kids.
Also, I have noticed that Pluas name has not been mentioned. Is she also a victim of Kotz and Fanelli era? I think she is going along with this mess just to keep her job. I truly prefer talking to her than the other Nazi
I still say she has no heart, for hurting families the way she has done. This behavior only shows that she has no love for children, it's all about getting paid. I am going to sit back and observe what she has in store for us come September. Please pray, because she doesn't realize that the children doesn't want to come back to Gunsaulus. It's sad that we as parents have to walk around scared to say something because of what she might do to our kids.
Also, I have noticed that Pluas name has not been mentioned. Is she also a victim of Kotz and Fanelli era? I think she is going along with this mess just to keep her job. I truly prefer talking to her than the other Nazi
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You are a nut with your nazi cr_p--shame on you for using it. Get a life and you need to be educated about your wack thought process.
OTHER LSC chairs and members, have the keys, have CPS IDs, walk the building, know the codes and use and program the IT in the school--YES< other LSC members do this ALL the time. Reform allowed this and so did the state leg. That is how it is, get used to it. You do not like it, run for LSC, but make sure you are not part of the Hitler party!
OTHER LSC chairs and members, have the keys, have CPS IDs, walk the building, know the codes and use and program the IT in the school--YES< other LSC members do this ALL the time. Reform allowed this and so did the state leg. That is how it is, get used to it. You do not like it, run for LSC, but make sure you are not part of the Hitler party!
Mon Jul 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM
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Kotz Control: I agree. Kotz is the main one in charge at the school, so SHE should be in charge, not Fanelli. So, come September, get a hold of yourself, KOTZ!
Literacy coaches: Most schools don't even have literacy coaches. Gunsaulus is lucky just to even have one coach. But, TWO?? Dubin and Salas just sit around in that huge office of theirs. Do they see students? NO! So, why the hell do we need them? Well, since Fanelli will "keep everything under budget" guess they will "keep under budget" by paying these two slugs with a ton of money, money that could be used to have something we actually need, like a FULL-TIME art teacher, or a better music teacher (the replacement for next year, well... compared to the last music teacher, well, the new one... STINKS! Believe me, I heard her playing for the 2009 graduation).
LSC Chair: Will Fanelli ever step down from the LSC chair position? (Well, there's no way he's gonna step down, and the rigged LSC will vote HIS way, because he manipulated all of the LSC members to go his way.) When exactly will they vote on it? I know that Fanelli lives in the neighborhood, so he can and probably will visit the school whenever he wants to. He thinks Gunsaulus is HIS school. Well, if he thought that it was his school, why don't he just elect himself principal of the school? If he had the power to make everyone cast their ballot for Kotz, then why don't he make everyone vote for him?
3.0: Here, Here! I call for a new blog thread, Gunsaulus 3.0. This one's getting too long. Start new stuff on a new blog!
Literacy coaches: Most schools don't even have literacy coaches. Gunsaulus is lucky just to even have one coach. But, TWO?? Dubin and Salas just sit around in that huge office of theirs. Do they see students? NO! So, why the hell do we need them? Well, since Fanelli will "keep everything under budget" guess they will "keep under budget" by paying these two slugs with a ton of money, money that could be used to have something we actually need, like a FULL-TIME art teacher, or a better music teacher (the replacement for next year, well... compared to the last music teacher, well, the new one... STINKS! Believe me, I heard her playing for the 2009 graduation).
LSC Chair: Will Fanelli ever step down from the LSC chair position? (Well, there's no way he's gonna step down, and the rigged LSC will vote HIS way, because he manipulated all of the LSC members to go his way.) When exactly will they vote on it? I know that Fanelli lives in the neighborhood, so he can and probably will visit the school whenever he wants to. He thinks Gunsaulus is HIS school. Well, if he thought that it was his school, why don't he just elect himself principal of the school? If he had the power to make everyone cast their ballot for Kotz, then why don't he make everyone vote for him?
3.0: Here, Here! I call for a new blog thread, Gunsaulus 3.0. This one's getting too long. Start new stuff on a new blog!
Tue Jul 7, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
So can someone tell me if there has been a rescheduled LSC meeting?
Tue Jul 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I have confirmation that the LSC organizational meeting is Wednesday June 8th at 5:00 in the auditorium.
As a reminder, public participation is not included in this meeting, as it is simply intended to be a means for the LSC to elect a chairman, adopt Robert's Rules of Order, and schedule the year's meetings. Anyone may of course attend.
As a reminder, public participation is not included in this meeting, as it is simply intended to be a means for the LSC to elect a chairman, adopt Robert's Rules of Order, and schedule the year's meetings. Anyone may of course attend.
Tue Jul 7, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
check your date - a typo on the month? Thanks for all you do
Tue Jul 7, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The meeting is now scheduled for Wednesday, July 8th @ 5:00 p.m.
Wed Jul 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM
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Mr. Fanelli is the ELECTED chair, have a great year Gunsaulus!
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 1:23 AM
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I was only at the meeting 5 minutes. I couldn't stand the lies and obfuscations and literally had to walk out. Fanelli double-talked his way through explaining the charade of the re-scheduled meeting (you know how he does) and told Gale he doesn't have to answer her questions. That Sudeikas (spelling?) lady accused Gale of harassing her when she asked her what time the meeting was, and told Gale to stop destroying the school. When I brought up the destruction of firing 18 people in one year, she started blathering about how people always come and go.
I understand where she's coming from. Kotz & Fnelli make her feel important, so she can literally turn a blind's eye to anything. But I simply can't wrap my brain around how people act & think in destructive ways as Kotz & Fanelli.
Oh, and I have good news on the forgery front. I mistakenly thought Kotz had forged my son's signature, but Mesa-Collins assured me that Kotz says it never happened. Whew. Thank God. I'd sure hate to think the principal forged my son's signature!
I understand where she's coming from. Kotz & Fnelli make her feel important, so she can literally turn a blind's eye to anything. But I simply can't wrap my brain around how people act & think in destructive ways as Kotz & Fanelli.
Oh, and I have good news on the forgery front. I mistakenly thought Kotz had forged my son's signature, but Mesa-Collins assured me that Kotz says it never happened. Whew. Thank God. I'd sure hate to think the principal forged my son's signature!
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 AM
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Of course Fanelli is the chair!. They voted everyone off who would have voted any other way. This LSC is beyond corrupt but the powers that be refuse to see it.
Of course Mesa-Collins says things never happen...her lazy ass is on the line too. She is a disgrace. She warned the LSC NOT to hire Kotz but then backs her up and supports her because it will make her look bad if one of her principals fails miserably.
Of course they don't have to answer Gale's questions...she is just a parent. She matters a little more than the teachers but still does not matter to the LSC.
Of course Sudeikis says she was harrassed...Fanelli was not there when Gale asked her when the meeting was so she had no idea what to say. She only says and does what she is told and has no mind of her own.'
I don't think we have seen anything yet. I think this year was just an intro to what is coming next year. As teachers are looking for other jobs, they are finding that Kotz is blackballing all of us. Just like she did with the security guard, she wants us all gone but sabotages every effort we make. Funny but she never entered the classrooms of many teachers...never saw them teach but has plenty to say.
The lies will continue. The harrassment of staff will continue. The reign of Kotz/Fanelli/ corrupt LSC will continue. The board is well aware and just does not care. Teachers will be evaluated after being taken from their areas of expertise and careers will be left in ruins.
Sad.
Of course Mesa-Collins says things never happen...her lazy ass is on the line too. She is a disgrace. She warned the LSC NOT to hire Kotz but then backs her up and supports her because it will make her look bad if one of her principals fails miserably.
Of course they don't have to answer Gale's questions...she is just a parent. She matters a little more than the teachers but still does not matter to the LSC.
Of course Sudeikis says she was harrassed...Fanelli was not there when Gale asked her when the meeting was so she had no idea what to say. She only says and does what she is told and has no mind of her own.'
I don't think we have seen anything yet. I think this year was just an intro to what is coming next year. As teachers are looking for other jobs, they are finding that Kotz is blackballing all of us. Just like she did with the security guard, she wants us all gone but sabotages every effort we make. Funny but she never entered the classrooms of many teachers...never saw them teach but has plenty to say.
The lies will continue. The harrassment of staff will continue. The reign of Kotz/Fanelli/ corrupt LSC will continue. The board is well aware and just does not care. Teachers will be evaluated after being taken from their areas of expertise and careers will be left in ruins.
Sad.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
(Mesa Collins---"She warned the LSC NOT to hire Kotz..."
And your proof is?
You sound bitter. It may be Time for you to move on.
And your proof is?
You sound bitter. It may be Time for you to move on.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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Of course people are bitter!!! A once nice place to work has been turned upside down! Talk to anyone who has worked with Kotz in the past. Unsuccessful as a teacher and could not keep a job as an administrator. Do you actually think that people have not checked her out??? Her reputation hroughout the board is easy to find...but was hidden by the LSC chair when selection was happening.The only people that support her are those that kiss butt to get what they want and be left alone or those that she has promised benefits to...especially her hires that she brought with her. Horrible people. Of couse people are bitter...and those that do not work for her, who have not been harassed, who have not had their career threathened, have not had to go legal on her, have not seen her underhanded, unfair, unethical, dishonest, unprofessional, and inhumane way she deals with students, parents, and staff will never understand what this woman has done. So allow the bitterness and move on.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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Just like Dr. Canizales, it is a shame to lose an individual who was trying to be part of the solution instead of being part of the problem.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 11:53 AM
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Yeah that's right KOTZ. I think you and FUNNY LOOKING FANELLI ARE THE NAZI. You are out for the kill. neither of you are anythning but garbage. How in the heck did this happen to our school. All of a sudden we are mad all the time. Kotz and Fanelli are the type of peole you have to pray for all the time. the LSC members are their SOLDIERS. SCARY CATS. The BOARD needs to someone in the school that the NAZI DOESN'T KNOW and record their BEHINDS. Fanelli is ot the PRINCIPAL AND yes, I still say he should not walk around like he owns it. PLUCK them all. THIS IS SOME FUNKY CRAP GOING ON AT GUNSAULUS. THE CHICAGO BOARD OF EDUCATION NEEDS TO WAKE UP. KOTZ HAS TO BE THE MOST UNLIKED PERSON I HAVE SEEN IN MY LIFE. FANELLI IS JUST SO FUNNY LOOKING. HE LOOKS LIKE THE MAN OFF OF WOODY WOODPECKER. DAMN, TALKING ABOUT THEM JUST MAKES MY CRAMPS WORST. HAVE A GREAT SUMMER. ONE MORE THING GO TELL KOTZ TO MOVE THE HELL ON AND TAKE FANELLI WITH HER. HELL YEAH I AM VERY BITTER. THIS IS WHY NOW I AM SHOUTING . THIS IS OUR CHILDREN THE COW HIS BOTHERING OUR CHILDREN FUTURE. PS STOP KISSING HWER A** SHE IS GOING TO SCREW EVERYONE OVER IN THE END.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 1:47 PM
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Boy, I sure hope you're not a teacher and if you are that was one of the worst displays of the English language I've seen in a VERY long time.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM
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You can make your commenst without being mean. there is no reason to complain about how people look, or call them cows even if we don't all agree we can make our comments fine for anybody to read when you attack peoples looks then your arguements our not listend to by everyoneelse
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM
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I'm just guessing from the content that TO CANT BELIEVE is not a teacher. While the grammar is a bit rough around the edges, you can certainly sympathize with the content. But as far as the worst display of the King's English, you don't really have to go that far back in this very blog to see many worse examples. And not that I'm keeping score, but most of the worst offenders are from the Kotz/Fanelli camp. But I'm not quite sure what that actually proves. This blog really is more about documenting the crimes & misdemeanors of Kotz & Fanelli than an English Comp 101 exercise.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
And "please be nice" has a point, too. Calling them cows, ugly, etc., while it may feel good to vent the frustrations Kotz & Fanelli have engendered, it does distract from the very real grievances against Kotz & fanelli.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Thanks to Ms. kotz. The hate is so one-sided and it seems the horrible post up above is FROM a teacher. Now you can see what Principal Kotz has to contend with. I know a number of faculty at this school and they PRAISE her work--so move on haters, because your hate will play down to the children and your hate should NOT be around them. And the LSC is doing the right thing--keep up the great work!
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The worst is the "principal passes away at Dewey" site. Indecipherable
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
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you seem to have an inside track on the teaching staff. we all know that some teachers, who are out for themselves and enjoy the power trip praise Amy. It is not important that teachers like what she is doing. To praise her means that you praise lies, false write ups, hiding things and unprofessional behavior. So good for the teachers that praise her. We can see that those teachers are just fine with the bad behavior. You also say that the LSC is doing the right thing, but I read in Substance that they broke the law by not following the open meetings act. That is not the right thing. And did the LSC ever have the meeting last night? what happened? Is Fanelli the chairperson again and is Crystal still the secretary? Did they fill the empty positions? C'mon! Somebody give us some details!!
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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for your info on the school? The LSC meeting did take place and went well and was posted--so stop beefing. Stop being part of the problem and be a part of the solution. If you cannot do this or do not want to, please take your bitterness elsewhere.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 7:20 PM
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why do people wait so long? 24 hours is long? You say the LSC meeting went well, and I am glad to hear it. So what happened there? Care to share? There is no way for anyone who could not attend to know what happened, nor will there be since the minutes are never posted, so please tell us what happened. It is about time that an LSC meeting went well, since the ones I attended last year did not. And are you saying that the Substance article was wrong?
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 9:06 PM
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give them a call and ask them how it went--you could not be there--this happens. if you want to know, kindly ask an LSC member. kindly, in August, after they are approved, ask the secretary for the minutes. so simple--you make a mountain from a mole hill.
Thu Jul 9, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
"Thanks to Ms. kotz. The hate is so one-sided and it seems the horrible post up above is FROM a teacher. Now you can see what Principal Kotz has to contend with. I know a number of faculty at this school and they PRAISE her work--so move on haters, because your hate will play down to the children and your hate should NOT be around them. And the LSC is doing the right thing--keep up the great work!"
YOU ARE ONE OF THE NASTY NAZIS DESTROYING THE SCHOOL. YOU ARE PART OF THE GUNSAULUS DESTRUCTION BRIGADE. YOU ARE PART OF THE KOTZ/FANELLI ALLIANCE. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE ARE YOU, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT YOU, FANELLI, POSTED THIS RIDICULOUS COMMENT. Of course, you tell the LSC to keep up the great work. What a waste. Why don't you tell YOURSELF to keep up the great work? Your the one who's controlling the LSC. Your the one telling the LSC to vote for the person YOU want in rigged elections.
"I know a number of faculty at this school, and they all PRAISE her work." By "a number," do you mean your Fivesome Brigade (You, Kotz, Pluas, Dubin, and Salas)?
Why are you saying that teachers' comments here are horrible? At least they know what their doing! The RIGHT thing! The teachers have been at hard work teaching the students. What if YOU were one of them? What if YOU were the one fired by Kotz?
We might be haters, but who are we hating on? YOU.
Principal Kotz. Your the ONLY one who calls her that.
"the hate will play down to the children." What do you mean that it will "play down?" The children have an equal voice in this, and you call them naive for getting into this mess that you created.
Just to say, everyone laughs behinds your back. Next year, when Dubin and Salas have to be paid, and they once they don't appreciate what you're doing, they'll turn sides.
If this poster was not Fanelli, then this message was intended to be for Fanelli.
YOU ARE ONE OF THE NASTY NAZIS DESTROYING THE SCHOOL. YOU ARE PART OF THE GUNSAULUS DESTRUCTION BRIGADE. YOU ARE PART OF THE KOTZ/FANELLI ALLIANCE. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE ARE YOU, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT YOU, FANELLI, POSTED THIS RIDICULOUS COMMENT. Of course, you tell the LSC to keep up the great work. What a waste. Why don't you tell YOURSELF to keep up the great work? Your the one who's controlling the LSC. Your the one telling the LSC to vote for the person YOU want in rigged elections.
"I know a number of faculty at this school, and they all PRAISE her work." By "a number," do you mean your Fivesome Brigade (You, Kotz, Pluas, Dubin, and Salas)?
Why are you saying that teachers' comments here are horrible? At least they know what their doing! The RIGHT thing! The teachers have been at hard work teaching the students. What if YOU were one of them? What if YOU were the one fired by Kotz?
We might be haters, but who are we hating on? YOU.
Principal Kotz. Your the ONLY one who calls her that.
"the hate will play down to the children." What do you mean that it will "play down?" The children have an equal voice in this, and you call them naive for getting into this mess that you created.
Just to say, everyone laughs behinds your back. Next year, when Dubin and Salas have to be paid, and they once they don't appreciate what you're doing, they'll turn sides.
If this poster was not Fanelli, then this message was intended to be for Fanelli.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 6:44 AM
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shame he must tolerate such hating and even being called a nazi.
Only now can we pray this poster does NOT work for the school and if they are a teacher there or anywhere....shame.
Only now can we pray this poster does NOT work for the school and if they are a teacher there or anywhere....shame.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 8:49 AM
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I agree, no matter what has happened in that school nobody deserves to be called a Nazi. Do you even have a concept of what that word means to millions of people? The shame should be on this poster, not the people he/she is lambasting.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
It appears that Pluas finally got her wish that she made years ago when she was the acting principal of Davis and envied the Gunsaulus family. The Gunsaulus scores have gone down. Apparently, verbal abuse and intimidation is bad for a school. Who would have thunk it, Elba.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You lose your credibility when you go off the edge with a word like Nazi. Pull it back a bit and you will go further being understood. Please take the summer to nurture yourself and get strong for the coming school year. Your insight will be better respected ant that's a good thing, because it is valuable to the purpose of correcting this situation.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
scores went slightly down 6 percent in reading and less than three in math. For you to blame Ms. Pluas is ridiculous.
For you to say 'without good scores youre nothing' -shame on you on behalf of the students, teachers, parents, LSC and yes, administraors at the school.
For you to say 'without good scores youre nothing' -shame on you on behalf of the students, teachers, parents, LSC and yes, administraors at the school.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Wait til next year's scores...all the teachers were moved from their areas of expertise...even those with middle and upper endorsements, one with National Board Certs...all those trained in early elementary have been put in upper grades. So much money wasted in training...so much unnecessary movement and confusion. Parents should be very concerned. The teachers are professional and will do a wonderful job. This is just another example of the joy and satisfaction this administration gets from screwing with professionals, let alone human beings. I know, I know...the board says everything is fine at Gunsaulus. The AIO says everything is fine at Gunsaulus. The corrupt and intelligence challenged LSC says everything is fine. Amy Kotz proudly says she is doing a great job. So even though the majority of parents and staff are screaming for help, everything must be fine...because those with the power to help say it is. Everybody needs to read the July issue of Substance for yet another example of how everything is just fine at Gunsaulus.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 4:11 PM
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yes, as you say, please wait until next year.
Looking forward to the substance July issue, but since when does substance print in July?
Looking forward to the substance July issue, but since when does substance print in July?
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Just looked at Alexander's score spreadsheet (How'd Your School Do? in main blog) The teachers of Gunsaulus need to be congratulated on the job they did this year under unbelievably bad administration...although scores went down in Reading...(what happened at 3rd and 4th grade??? Scores went down 13-14% in those grade levels) most only went down 2-6% points...scores are still impressive. Your 8th graders did great...went from 91.5% to 87.9%...holy cow!! If you guys are departmental for Reading...wow. You guys endured a lot this year...congrats that she did not break you. Congrats that your dedication to the kids overpowered her need to ruin you. You are all a testament to what the schools should be...above all else, children first and education matters. Amy Kotz should be kissing butt...once again, in the midst of all of her confusion and lack of professionalism, you guys made her look like a champion. Bitter sweet. Gunsaulus teachers shine!!
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM
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Congratulations to teachers and ADMINISTRATION for these improvements as described above. Dear Holy Cow--you cannot have it both was. Scores may have been much lower without the admisitration that has been there for the last year.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM
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Bravo! Gunsaulus teachers! Keep your heads raised high!
Despite terrible treatment by Mrs. Kotz, you excelled. Next year you will have to contend with twisted personalties she hires, people she knows. And you will have to protect the new, young teachers she hires to torture. Be strong.
Despite terrible treatment by Mrs. Kotz, you excelled. Next year you will have to contend with twisted personalties she hires, people she knows. And you will have to protect the new, young teachers she hires to torture. Be strong.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:12 PM
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a getting ready for a great year with Mrs. Kotz and her leadership team. You are on your way to an even greater year. New teachers will be valued and have a great professional experience at Gunsualus.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:25 PM
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We are all watching. And hoping that next year truly will be a good year for Gunsaulus - its staff, students, parents and community. As it stands, there is reason for concern. Surely, you get that, don't you???
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:30 PM
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"Congratulations to teachers and ADMINISTRATION for these improvements as described above. Dear Holy Cow--you cannot have it both was. Scores may have been much lower without the admisitration that has been there for the last year."
Nope...scores have NOTHING to do with administration or the leadership team. Scores were higher before she began her reign and she has done nothing to improve scores. The teachers deserve ALL the credit. While she sat at her laptop writing false write ups, interrogating children, calling the police and DCFS to make false accusations, harassing staff, firing good people, and worshiping at the feet of Reid Fanelli, teachers rose above her BS and were hard at work in their classrooms. Do not dare to give her credit. The teachers do not deserve yet another slap in the face.
And to those that said this will be an even better year...six wonderful calssroom teachers gone and a nauseatingly stupid re-organization of teachers and staff just does not lend itself to that prediction.
Nope...scores have NOTHING to do with administration or the leadership team. Scores were higher before she began her reign and she has done nothing to improve scores. The teachers deserve ALL the credit. While she sat at her laptop writing false write ups, interrogating children, calling the police and DCFS to make false accusations, harassing staff, firing good people, and worshiping at the feet of Reid Fanelli, teachers rose above her BS and were hard at work in their classrooms. Do not dare to give her credit. The teachers do not deserve yet another slap in the face.
And to those that said this will be an even better year...six wonderful calssroom teachers gone and a nauseatingly stupid re-organization of teachers and staff just does not lend itself to that prediction.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:33 PM
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Concern to one may be a different concern for another. You say 'we', but how many 'we's are there or just you and a few? you need to accept that your 'we' is a concern as well. If you were really out for the best for next year, there would be no more postings on this blog--and WE would really be.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:45 PM
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"New teachers will be valued and have a great professional experience at Gunsualus."
And the time-worn veterans will continue to be harassed, abused, and disrespected. Yes...another great year coming up. I am proud and happy to work with the teachers I work with after seeing the scores. I am sad that the AIO, board, and area team will say that Amy Kotz accomplished this and that Amy Kotz will happily take full credit. By the way...these are great scores...posted for all to see. She fudged the scores in the SIPAA to get her friends paid for. How will this affect that upstanding act??
And the time-worn veterans will continue to be harassed, abused, and disrespected. Yes...another great year coming up. I am proud and happy to work with the teachers I work with after seeing the scores. I am sad that the AIO, board, and area team will say that Amy Kotz accomplished this and that Amy Kotz will happily take full credit. By the way...these are great scores...posted for all to see. She fudged the scores in the SIPAA to get her friends paid for. How will this affect that upstanding act??
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:47 PM
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5:33 and 5:35 have proved nothing. It is ridiculous to state that those who want the best for the school are those that will not say anything here or elsewhere. Is it for the "best" to accept lies and deceptions from Amy and Elba and say nothing? No it is not for the best and it is not for the best to allow the LSC to do whatever they want and not follow the laws. It is not for the best to allow false write ups, mistreatment of staff and teachers, interrogations of students, rifling through mailboxes and calling the police on parents and teachers. It is never for the best to stand by and be silent when so many wrong things are being done. Maybe you don't have concerns and maybe you are happy with the wrongdoing because it gives you power if you back Amy in her lies. That does not mean that someone who speaks out on behalf of the school is a hater or not thinking about what is best.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM
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"She fudged the scores in the SIPAA to get her friends paid for."
Scores were automatically loaded into the SIP. Principals could not 'fudge' them. What you see on the CPS web IS the real SIP with the real scores presented.
"That does not mean that someone who speaks out on behalf of the school is a hater or not thinking about what is best."
No one said here NOT to speak, but lies, like the one above, will be exposed.
Scores were automatically loaded into the SIP. Principals could not 'fudge' them. What you see on the CPS web IS the real SIP with the real scores presented.
"That does not mean that someone who speaks out on behalf of the school is a hater or not thinking about what is best."
No one said here NOT to speak, but lies, like the one above, will be exposed.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 6:10 PM
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She left off last years scores when she presented at an LSC meeting. A teacher referred her to the board website telling her the scores were inaccurate. Neither the LSC or the area made her amend the scores to properly reflect last year. There is no lie there...this was all recorded at the LSC meeting. Get the tapes. All the teachers know the scores on the SIPAA are incorrect. Please stop saying that these things are lies just because you support the real liar...Amy Kotz. And for god's sake...stop saying these things will be exposed. Everything has been exposed. Everyone knows she is a liar. It would just be too embarrassing for the powers that be to admit that they are allowing one of their new leaders to destroy a great school.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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and will not be--did you go to the CPS website AND get the SIP? I bet not--you will then see that the scores are there.
No lies, no conspiracy--right there, the real scores. Get over yourself already.
No lies, no conspiracy--right there, the real scores. Get over yourself already.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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All these Nazi comparisons to Kotz & Fanelli may seem over-stated, and perhaps completely inappropriate and offensive. But there are, in fact, apt comparisons.
Sit down for a brief history lesson, kids.
The Nazis weren't just about killing Jews, as our modern media has condensed it. The Holocaust (in which Jews were a primary target, but not the only victims) was only part of the Nazi agenda, which was a complicated socio-political ideology that would takes volumes to dissect. But at minimum, when we look at the Nazis, we must understand not just the ideology they strove for, but the tactics & methodology they employed toward their twisted ends. This methodology could best be described as repressive or "totalitarian." Bone-up on your Orwell for a better understanding of totalitarianism.
Totalitarian tactics involve propaganda, twisting the truth to fit their own version of reality, which helps in obtaining the acquiescence of those less involved, indifferent, or disengaged; intimidation and ultimatly purges (that's where the concentration camps come in) of opponents or those considered a threat; accusing opponents of imagined or fabricated crimes (e.g. the "November Criminals" and the various show trials), even accusing opponents of committing crimes they themselves commit; and a blind obedience and even reverance of a megalomaniacal leader(s) seen as infallible, and even a referential association of the leader to the community or nation at large (Hitler is Germany).
That's where the comparisons to Gunsaulus come in. Look at the course of this blog and with careful attention to Kotz & Fanelli and their devoted followers. Time and again they are twisting facts, and double-talk to get their message out there, and they appear to be in complete denial of, or conveniently overlook the well-documented log of crimes & misdemeanors of Kotz & Fanelli, and have thereby sucessfully gathered the silent acquiescence of the disengaged; the intimidation of parents, teachers, and staff that are seen as "opponents," and ultimatly, purges (firings of 19 people); the long list of false accusations to the police (over 40 calls this year), DCFS, and Inspector General; accusing others of their own foibles (calling everyone else "haters"); and the reverance of their infallible leaders, Fanelli, the only one qualified for the job, and Kotz, a bold, innovative leader who is cleaning up Gunsaulus, who see themselves as indispensible (Kotz is Gunsaulus).
Again, to the people who suffered and died as a result of Naziism/Fascism, this whole comparison is, at best, trite or over-stated, and some people make the comparison rather clumsily. But to the people who have been fired, persecuted, and hurt by Kotz & Fanelli, there is an eerie similarity in tactics and methodology.
Sit down for a brief history lesson, kids.
The Nazis weren't just about killing Jews, as our modern media has condensed it. The Holocaust (in which Jews were a primary target, but not the only victims) was only part of the Nazi agenda, which was a complicated socio-political ideology that would takes volumes to dissect. But at minimum, when we look at the Nazis, we must understand not just the ideology they strove for, but the tactics & methodology they employed toward their twisted ends. This methodology could best be described as repressive or "totalitarian." Bone-up on your Orwell for a better understanding of totalitarianism.
Totalitarian tactics involve propaganda, twisting the truth to fit their own version of reality, which helps in obtaining the acquiescence of those less involved, indifferent, or disengaged; intimidation and ultimatly purges (that's where the concentration camps come in) of opponents or those considered a threat; accusing opponents of imagined or fabricated crimes (e.g. the "November Criminals" and the various show trials), even accusing opponents of committing crimes they themselves commit; and a blind obedience and even reverance of a megalomaniacal leader(s) seen as infallible, and even a referential association of the leader to the community or nation at large (Hitler is Germany).
That's where the comparisons to Gunsaulus come in. Look at the course of this blog and with careful attention to Kotz & Fanelli and their devoted followers. Time and again they are twisting facts, and double-talk to get their message out there, and they appear to be in complete denial of, or conveniently overlook the well-documented log of crimes & misdemeanors of Kotz & Fanelli, and have thereby sucessfully gathered the silent acquiescence of the disengaged; the intimidation of parents, teachers, and staff that are seen as "opponents," and ultimatly, purges (firings of 19 people); the long list of false accusations to the police (over 40 calls this year), DCFS, and Inspector General; accusing others of their own foibles (calling everyone else "haters"); and the reverance of their infallible leaders, Fanelli, the only one qualified for the job, and Kotz, a bold, innovative leader who is cleaning up Gunsaulus, who see themselves as indispensible (Kotz is Gunsaulus).
Again, to the people who suffered and died as a result of Naziism/Fascism, this whole comparison is, at best, trite or over-stated, and some people make the comparison rather clumsily. But to the people who have been fired, persecuted, and hurt by Kotz & Fanelli, there is an eerie similarity in tactics and methodology.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 7:29 PM
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So, if I am following you correctly - fighting on the side of the common good, as we understand it in a democratic society - is working together to foil people with social pathologies that counter constructive development of a healthy society, such as, in this case, a school where children are taught to become good citizens and where the administration is working to advance its own agenda of squashing the human spirit. Well, then, I can sleep easier at night knowing that strong hearted people like the Gunsaulus teachers have a blog like this to support and assist them. I get it!
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 7:30 PM
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Seriously, everyone, are you crazy? The poster who said that the scores going down had nothing to do with the administration is absolutely crazy. The reason for the turmoil is the administration. Kids feel tension (and obvioulsly there is tension at your school). With all that has taken place this year, discipline notifications, firings, illegal activity, threats, ect. it didn't take a brain scientist to figure out that the scores were going to go down.
If Amy wants to make the school better (regardless of who supports or opposes her) she needs to help SUPPORT her staff. Until the turmoil ends, your scores will continue to flounder. At best, they may flatline; however, change doesn't take place when a building is in the kind of turmoil that you all are in.
For the record, the administration most certainly had to do with the scores going down. Where was the motivation for the teachers to strive to do better? In a toxic environment, the things that need to take place in order to make a school successful just can't take place. Your school will never be successful until you overcome the mess that has been created with the divide. Amy needs to realize this and begin to foster relationships, rather than pushing everyone away.
If Amy wants to make the school better (regardless of who supports or opposes her) she needs to help SUPPORT her staff. Until the turmoil ends, your scores will continue to flounder. At best, they may flatline; however, change doesn't take place when a building is in the kind of turmoil that you all are in.
For the record, the administration most certainly had to do with the scores going down. Where was the motivation for the teachers to strive to do better? In a toxic environment, the things that need to take place in order to make a school successful just can't take place. Your school will never be successful until you overcome the mess that has been created with the divide. Amy needs to realize this and begin to foster relationships, rather than pushing everyone away.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 7:34 PM
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Aren't you the sly boots? Look at the CPS web site and you can see that the ORIGINAL 2008-2010 SIPA is posted, not the bastardized and much revised version that Kotz and Fanelli, with the help of the LSC toadies, created. Yes scores are in that version, but this bears little resemblance to the SIPA that Kotz gave out to everyone.
Stop trying to be cute and look smart. Neither strategy works for you.
Stop trying to be cute and look smart. Neither strategy works for you.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 7:36 PM
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don't forget that the ISAT testing was not administered properly this year either. Kotz is definitely responsible for that.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 10:40 PM
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7:30, you said it perfectly. We all hope that happens.
Yes, the 2007-2008 scores were left off the revised SIPAAA because we went up. Amy wanted to use the previous years' scores to say we went down last year (when in fact, we went down the year before- 2006-2007 and way UP in 2007-2008). This makes it look like the newest scores (2008-2009) went down little, if any (I haven't looked at them yet). Then she stays out of hot water for creating the turmoil that has sent our scores down.
Yes, the 2007-2008 scores were left off the revised SIPAAA because we went up. Amy wanted to use the previous years' scores to say we went down last year (when in fact, we went down the year before- 2006-2007 and way UP in 2007-2008). This makes it look like the newest scores (2008-2009) went down little, if any (I haven't looked at them yet). Then she stays out of hot water for creating the turmoil that has sent our scores down.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 11:09 PM
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So the scores went down this year, but because last year's scores were left off the new SIP, it will look like the scores went up. All thanks to Kotz, right?
Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 8:19 AM
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Please go on tthe ISBE web site or CPS and post (cut and paste)your scores-the ones over time would stop this confusion.
Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 9:24 AM
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The scores posted there are correct. The point was that when the administration distributed the SIPA to the LSC at an LSC meeting, and to the staff, she "left out" last years scores so she could get money approved to hire 2 reading teachers instead of just one. When she was called out on it, she denied it, but changed the SIPA after the meeting. We now have two reading teachers...and our scores obviously do not warrant that. Also...how does our school get those discretionary funds that the LSC chair claims as his own to do with what he wants?? I though those funds were based on certain criteria that until this year we did not meet. How all of the sudden when we are still the same selective enrollment type of school and our scores are still well above average? Just thinking in words here.
Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM
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So, ISAT scores are in. Some of the went up, while some, oh I mean, most of them went down. Let's see:
So, the 5th grade scores went up, like 2%, but that's still a rise. So, if the 5th graders are doing so well, that they are the only grade with rises in percentage in all categories, then why is one 5th grade teacher gone, and another being sent to kindergarten?
7.2%. That's how much the 7th grade science scores went up. So, why is the 7th grade science teacher gone? I see that she is also the math teacher, and there was a small (2%) drop in math. But, if the students had pre-algebra classes, that were in fact cut by Kotz, we might have had a rise in that category.
Now. 3rd and 4th grade. Let's just say, they dropped dramatically. 3rd grade dropped an average of 14%, and 4th grade dropped an average of 11%. Now, isn't there a 3rd grade teacher that was hired by the new administration? Coincidence? I don't know, but you decide. And isn't there a teacher in 4th grade who's on the LSC? I read about her somewhere on this blog, I think it was the service picnic one?
Based on the ISAT scores, we can see that there was a drop when new administration came in. When Jonikaitis and Kotz first became principal, there were significant drops. However, when Lillian Gonzalez came in, the scores either dropped a little, tiny bit, but a lot of them stayed the same, and some rose significantly. Since these scores were so good, why not show them off and let everyone see that Gunsaulus had significant rises? Why did they cutted them off the SIPAAA? Shouldn't parents be able to know that their kids did well when Lillian was in charge? To me, it's just an excuse to get more money into Kotz's salary, and more money spent on things the school doesn't need. Can someone tell me WHY do we need two reading specialists? Can't we just have one? That's what we used to have.
I would also like to point out that scores did rise during Jonikaitis' administration. So, just maybe, our scores will rise next year. Just maybe we could redeem the school's glory as the top school in the area. Hate to mention this, but neighborhood schools are doing better than Gunsaulus, which is a MAGNET school.
So, the 5th grade scores went up, like 2%, but that's still a rise. So, if the 5th graders are doing so well, that they are the only grade with rises in percentage in all categories, then why is one 5th grade teacher gone, and another being sent to kindergarten?
7.2%. That's how much the 7th grade science scores went up. So, why is the 7th grade science teacher gone? I see that she is also the math teacher, and there was a small (2%) drop in math. But, if the students had pre-algebra classes, that were in fact cut by Kotz, we might have had a rise in that category.
Now. 3rd and 4th grade. Let's just say, they dropped dramatically. 3rd grade dropped an average of 14%, and 4th grade dropped an average of 11%. Now, isn't there a 3rd grade teacher that was hired by the new administration? Coincidence? I don't know, but you decide. And isn't there a teacher in 4th grade who's on the LSC? I read about her somewhere on this blog, I think it was the service picnic one?
Based on the ISAT scores, we can see that there was a drop when new administration came in. When Jonikaitis and Kotz first became principal, there were significant drops. However, when Lillian Gonzalez came in, the scores either dropped a little, tiny bit, but a lot of them stayed the same, and some rose significantly. Since these scores were so good, why not show them off and let everyone see that Gunsaulus had significant rises? Why did they cutted them off the SIPAAA? Shouldn't parents be able to know that their kids did well when Lillian was in charge? To me, it's just an excuse to get more money into Kotz's salary, and more money spent on things the school doesn't need. Can someone tell me WHY do we need two reading specialists? Can't we just have one? That's what we used to have.
I would also like to point out that scores did rise during Jonikaitis' administration. So, just maybe, our scores will rise next year. Just maybe we could redeem the school's glory as the top school in the area. Hate to mention this, but neighborhood schools are doing better than Gunsaulus, which is a MAGNET school.
Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 9:39 PM
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you are NOT selective enrollemnt. So you are doing well in the area. Lots of push for what? It will be a new year go with it.
Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:57 PM
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neighborhood schools are doing better than Gunsaulus, which is a MAGNET school.
Then,
you are NOT selective enrollemnt.
I'm confused.
Does Gunsaulus accept all students within an attendance boundary? Does it have an enrollment cap?
Then,
you are NOT selective enrollemnt.
I'm confused.
Does Gunsaulus accept all students within an attendance boundary? Does it have an enrollment cap?
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 2:24 AM
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I also just noticed that the 8th grade reading scores dropped from 91% to 87%...even with that small drop, those have to be the highest in area 10. You are departmental in 8th grade and the teacher that has maintained these scores over the past 2 years has been moved from 8th grade to 1st grade. If we are a business as we have been told so many times over the past year, what company would move their highest performing salesman from their area?? Just does not make sense. Miss Green...if you visit this blog, I want you to know that you will do great in first grade but everyone knows you should still be rocking 8th. The kids love you and they obviously learn from you too. The parents of last year's 7th grade should be very concerned.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 9:59 AM
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Gunsaulus is a magnet school. Gunsaulus is not selective enrollment. I bet the poster of "ISAT Scores" meant that neighborhood schools are doing better on the ISATs than magnet schools (like Gunsaulus).
On the ISAT scores, Gunsaulus is still ranked #1. But, other schools in the area are catching up to Gunsaulus, for example, Saucedo, which is right behind Gunsaulus' back.
Gunsaulus accepts all students from across the city in a computerized/random lottery drawing. There are no boundaries on where you live. However, there are certain boundaries for receiving bus transportation.
In conclusion, Gunsaulus is a magnet school, NOT a neighborhood school, nor selective enrollment. There are no attendance boundaries, just bus transportation boundaries.
On the ISAT scores, Gunsaulus is still ranked #1. But, other schools in the area are catching up to Gunsaulus, for example, Saucedo, which is right behind Gunsaulus' back.
Gunsaulus accepts all students from across the city in a computerized/random lottery drawing. There are no boundaries on where you live. However, there are certain boundaries for receiving bus transportation.
In conclusion, Gunsaulus is a magnet school, NOT a neighborhood school, nor selective enrollment. There are no attendance boundaries, just bus transportation boundaries.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 10:50 AM
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Gunsaulus accepts all students from across the city in a computerized/random lottery drawing.
Oh! So every Chicago student is placed in the lottery? (That's one ginormous lottery!!!) Here I thought parents had to apply to get their kids into Gunsaulus. Because at neighborhood schools you don't have to apply to get in - you just have to live in the neighborhood and you're accepted - come one, come all.
And there's no enrollment cap at Gunsaulus then because it's not selective, right? Neighborhood schools on the southwest side are really overcrowded, aren't they? Gunsaulus must be packed to the gills and overflowing! And they still have this type of success??? WOW! That is awesome!!! Why doesn't CPS look at how Gunsaulus does things and then apply it to all of those failing elementary schools???
If Gunsaulus selected students through an application process and limited enrollment, which I guess isn't the case, I can see why someone might be upset that one of those regular neighborhood schools was approaching Gunsaulus type success. But since Gunsaulus doesn't turn students away, I don't think I see why it's such a big deal that other neighborhood schools are approaching Gunsaulus' amazing level of success.
This Saucedo school - is it overcrowded and full of regular neighborhood kids or do you have to be accepted through an application and lottery like at Gunsaulus?
This is a really interesting blog story! (But it seems kinda angry sometimes.) Has everyone heard of Gunsaulus before this but me? They should be on the front page news with those kinds of results!
Oh! So every Chicago student is placed in the lottery? (That's one ginormous lottery!!!) Here I thought parents had to apply to get their kids into Gunsaulus. Because at neighborhood schools you don't have to apply to get in - you just have to live in the neighborhood and you're accepted - come one, come all.
And there's no enrollment cap at Gunsaulus then because it's not selective, right? Neighborhood schools on the southwest side are really overcrowded, aren't they? Gunsaulus must be packed to the gills and overflowing! And they still have this type of success??? WOW! That is awesome!!! Why doesn't CPS look at how Gunsaulus does things and then apply it to all of those failing elementary schools???
If Gunsaulus selected students through an application process and limited enrollment, which I guess isn't the case, I can see why someone might be upset that one of those regular neighborhood schools was approaching Gunsaulus type success. But since Gunsaulus doesn't turn students away, I don't think I see why it's such a big deal that other neighborhood schools are approaching Gunsaulus' amazing level of success.
This Saucedo school - is it overcrowded and full of regular neighborhood kids or do you have to be accepted through an application and lottery like at Gunsaulus?
This is a really interesting blog story! (But it seems kinda angry sometimes.) Has everyone heard of Gunsaulus before this but me? They should be on the front page news with those kinds of results!
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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Yes, neighborhood schools have to accept everyone even those who pretend to be homeless. We have classrooms approaching 40 students. When CPS counts class size they count ALL of the teachers even the ones who have no classrooms. This is why you need to visit the school because the class size on the school report card is erroneous.
We even have students who live in the suburbs who are using a relative's addresses. We have free all day kindergartens whereas the suburbs near us do not. Yes, our administration has reported this but ...the wheels of justice move slowly. CPS also needs to start checking custody orders to determine who has educational custody. Is it dad in Chicago or mom in Palatine? The suburbs are stringent about this.
Gunsaulus is not a neighborhood school so it is highly unlikely it is overcrowded. Usually, parents who will bus their children out of a neighborhood school will be more involved in the school. Also, if a child is disruptive especially on the bus his bus privileges will be revoked. This is one way the non-neighborhood schools get rid of behavior problems. I believe the academies get two extra CPS funded positions. They also have had CPS pay for all day kindergarten. Neighborhood schools who want an all day kindergarten are forced to buy a half position from their discretionary funds. Children who come out of all day kindergartens usually are either reading or ready to read before Halloween so I would imagine this would help the reading scores.
We even have students who live in the suburbs who are using a relative's addresses. We have free all day kindergartens whereas the suburbs near us do not. Yes, our administration has reported this but ...the wheels of justice move slowly. CPS also needs to start checking custody orders to determine who has educational custody. Is it dad in Chicago or mom in Palatine? The suburbs are stringent about this.
Gunsaulus is not a neighborhood school so it is highly unlikely it is overcrowded. Usually, parents who will bus their children out of a neighborhood school will be more involved in the school. Also, if a child is disruptive especially on the bus his bus privileges will be revoked. This is one way the non-neighborhood schools get rid of behavior problems. I believe the academies get two extra CPS funded positions. They also have had CPS pay for all day kindergarten. Neighborhood schools who want an all day kindergarten are forced to buy a half position from their discretionary funds. Children who come out of all day kindergartens usually are either reading or ready to read before Halloween so I would imagine this would help the reading scores.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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I know the upper grades were not overcrowded but were at class size...over 30. I know one first grade had 35 students with no aid. I know the the 4,5,6 were all at class size. What does overcrowding matter in test scores?? Class size is the same across the board. If a teacher has too many children it is right in the union contract what class size is too big. If neighborhood schools are overcrowded, don't blame Gunsaulus or the teachers that work there. Petition the board for a new school. Charter schools are finding sites all over the south side. Why can't the board just open another neighborhood school instead of selling out to a charter who do not even accurately post scores or test all of their students? Besides I think the point of this blog is not about test scores or magnet/ not magnat status. It is about a horrible administrator and a napoleonic LSC. Please keep the focus. Our scores were good. Saucedo's scores were good. Many schools did well. Never realized it was a competition second only to the Olympics.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM
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There are many people in the CPS system who read this blog. Will one of you from "downtown" explain anonymously how Gunsaulus receives children? How is the size of the enrollment determined? Gunsaulus parents who read this blog, would one of you tell us the process by which your child enrolled? In the application process, was there any testing or interviewing? Thanks.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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First, you submit an application (standard application) in to apply for Gunsaulus.
Second, the school places all of those names in three separate lotteries (regular, sibling, and proximity).
Third, names are chosen randomly.
Fourth, students get accepted.
I don't know about class sizes.
Second, the school places all of those names in three separate lotteries (regular, sibling, and proximity).
Third, names are chosen randomly.
Fourth, students get accepted.
I don't know about class sizes.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM
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Several posters to this thread have discussed their fear that Principal Kotz is trying to turn Gunsaulus into a neighborhood school.
Doesn't it make sense to utilize the building for the benefit of the immediate community given the severe overcrowding on the southwest side in both elementary and high schools and in the immediate Gunsaulus neighborhood in particular?
CPS could move the current and incoming Gunsaulus student body and staff to any of many empty public school buildings in other parts of the city and turn the Gunsaulus building over to its own neighborhood.
The outcome? Gunsaulus retains its magnet status and no schools are closed. Current and prospective Gunsaulus students and families continue on, albeit in a new physical space. Neighborhood school overcrowding is relieved at least in part because 700-1000 seats open up in the neighborhood. Though that's probably not enough to resolve the issue, it would certainly help!
I know it seems like a radical idea, but wouldn't this type of solution ultimately serve both Gunsaulus students and neighborhood students more effectively? After all, the students are the important ones, right?
For the record, I am not in any way a Kotz supporter.
Doesn't it make sense to utilize the building for the benefit of the immediate community given the severe overcrowding on the southwest side in both elementary and high schools and in the immediate Gunsaulus neighborhood in particular?
CPS could move the current and incoming Gunsaulus student body and staff to any of many empty public school buildings in other parts of the city and turn the Gunsaulus building over to its own neighborhood.
The outcome? Gunsaulus retains its magnet status and no schools are closed. Current and prospective Gunsaulus students and families continue on, albeit in a new physical space. Neighborhood school overcrowding is relieved at least in part because 700-1000 seats open up in the neighborhood. Though that's probably not enough to resolve the issue, it would certainly help!
I know it seems like a radical idea, but wouldn't this type of solution ultimately serve both Gunsaulus students and neighborhood students more effectively? After all, the students are the important ones, right?
For the record, I am not in any way a Kotz supporter.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I went to your site. It is so sad that you are experiencing such turmoil. Years of much care and devotion went into making Gunsaulus what is was before Amy Kotz arrived. 19 teachers gone and many moved out of their areas of greatest success? Just thinking about the chaos caused by false write ups and DCFS/police calls chills me. You even have a page for your retirees. Apparently, your teachers have meant a lot to many families and you've added much to their lives. I hope they help Gunsaulus regain its stability, integrity, and sense of well being. What a turn in the road for all of you. Good luck, everybody.
Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
That is an excellent idea. Let the old Gunsaulus be a neighborhood school, and the new Gunsaulus be a magnet school. Let Kotz and her hires run the neighborhood school. Let veteran teachers and more board certified teachers, as well as a better administration and LSC, run the new magnet school. It will relieve student congestion at the current Gunsaulus, and it relieves the minds of students, parents, and staff currently at Gunsaulus.
However, good luck with CPS in passing such a plan. CPS doesn't really care about old schools, and schools that are crowding. Their solution? To build new schools in areas of overcrowding. A new school is being build a few blocks away from my house. That's their solution. They won't relieve current school overcrowding. All they can see is that "we are OK and under control," when we're really not.
However, good luck with CPS in passing such a plan. CPS doesn't really care about old schools, and schools that are crowding. Their solution? To build new schools in areas of overcrowding. A new school is being build a few blocks away from my house. That's their solution. They won't relieve current school overcrowding. All they can see is that "we are OK and under control," when we're really not.
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
where have you been. CPS is about the mayor NOT the students. This has been going on for quite sometime now.
You idea, while interesting, would be too costly and why should the 'smarter' children be seperated fromt he neighborhood children? Are youone of Daley's guys?
You idea, while interesting, would be too costly and why should the 'smarter' children be seperated fromt he neighborhood children? Are youone of Daley's guys?
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
You idea, while interesting, would be too costly and why should the 'smarter' children be seperated fromt he neighborhood children? Are youone of Daley's guys?
No, I'm not one of Daley's guys. If I was I would have proposed a privately operated, publicly funded, enrollment controlled, multi-million dollar charter with no accountability.
I don't see it it would be too costly to utilize a building that CPS already owns. Even if relocating the Gunsaulus student body required renovations and updating to a CPS owned building that's far cheaper than purchasing or renting a building or constructing one from scratch. In fact, in the grand scheme of CPS budgets it would be chump change.
(I don't believe that the 'smarter' children should be separated from the neighborhood children. I think magnet schools are one of the tremendous tragedies of Chicago public education.)
Yes, CPS is about the mayor. This proposal of relocating the Gunsaulus magnet to a vacant CPS building in order to relieve some of the overcrowding on the SWside with a neighborhood school at 4420 S Sacramento has come up before. CPS bureaucrats shot down the proposal claiming it was "not politically feasible". Who cares if it better serves the neighborhood, families, and students? You're sure right about that. It's all politics.
But I'm still curious what actual Gunsaulus folk have to say about the proposal, especially given the controversy over Principal Kotz and her perceived goals.
No, I'm not one of Daley's guys. If I was I would have proposed a privately operated, publicly funded, enrollment controlled, multi-million dollar charter with no accountability.
I don't see it it would be too costly to utilize a building that CPS already owns. Even if relocating the Gunsaulus student body required renovations and updating to a CPS owned building that's far cheaper than purchasing or renting a building or constructing one from scratch. In fact, in the grand scheme of CPS budgets it would be chump change.
(I don't believe that the 'smarter' children should be separated from the neighborhood children. I think magnet schools are one of the tremendous tragedies of Chicago public education.)
Yes, CPS is about the mayor. This proposal of relocating the Gunsaulus magnet to a vacant CPS building in order to relieve some of the overcrowding on the SWside with a neighborhood school at 4420 S Sacramento has come up before. CPS bureaucrats shot down the proposal claiming it was "not politically feasible". Who cares if it better serves the neighborhood, families, and students? You're sure right about that. It's all politics.
But I'm still curious what actual Gunsaulus folk have to say about the proposal, especially given the controversy over Principal Kotz and her perceived goals.
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
Who said Gunsaulus is overcrowded? Is this made up data to manipulate the SIPAAA? Gunsaulus has had historically low class room sizes, that is until last year. Now we will have 3 grades in every grade including at least two pre-k classes (they share the space that was previously used for 1 Kindergarten class, which I know was luxury, but I digress). Most grades had between 25-30 children per classroom, now 30 is the minimum. Where did these children come from? Usually if I child is not accepted into a magnet school in either Kindergarten or 1st grade, they stay in their neighborhood school. Did they side step the application process? Would anyone be able to answer?
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I have no idea if Gunsaulus is overcrowded, but you ask good questions about enrollment shifts at the school.
The community's neighborhood schools, however, are extremely overcrowded. That's why I think Gunsaulus the magnet school should be shifted to another part of the city. The Gunsaulus building should be converted to a neighborhood school in order to alleviate overcrowding in nearby schools. Some posters in this thread expressed frustration that something like this is Principal Kotz's ultimate goal. I have no idea about that, but I do know that using Gunsaulus as a neighborhood school is clearly and obviously more beneficial to the neighborhood and its families than the current magnet setup.
Let me just be clear that I do not advocate for closing the magnet school. I just think a relocation is in order to better serve the needs of the community and its children while continuing to provide for current magnet students.
The community's neighborhood schools, however, are extremely overcrowded. That's why I think Gunsaulus the magnet school should be shifted to another part of the city. The Gunsaulus building should be converted to a neighborhood school in order to alleviate overcrowding in nearby schools. Some posters in this thread expressed frustration that something like this is Principal Kotz's ultimate goal. I have no idea about that, but I do know that using Gunsaulus as a neighborhood school is clearly and obviously more beneficial to the neighborhood and its families than the current magnet setup.
Let me just be clear that I do not advocate for closing the magnet school. I just think a relocation is in order to better serve the needs of the community and its children while continuing to provide for current magnet students.
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
If Gunsaulus becomes a neighborhood school with a different school population, wouldn't they have to constitute a different LSC? Wouldn't that LSC have to approve what Amy Kotz does in order for her to continue her modus operandi? Come on, folks, how lucky do you think this woman is? Based on posts here about her pattern of getting chased out of other schools where she's been, I doubt she'll ever get another fluke like this LSC again.
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I thought about it and I apologize for the post "think about it". It is too mean. I am going to take a break from this blog and reevaluate myself. I wish everyone well at Gunsaulus and that you resolve your problems together. The very best to you in the new school year. Because of circumstances at other schools, some people may have been happy to see Ms. Kotz move on. She was never chased out anywhere. Again, I apologize.
Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I know for a fact that the application process was sidestepped regularly at the beginning of this year...until teachers explained the process to administration. I was also told that administration was told by the area to stop enrolling "walk-ins" when there were people turned down thru the lottery. Admin just does what it wants at the school.
Tue Jul 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I still agree with the NAZI term. This is what KOTZ and FANELLI are. I really feel sorry for everyone at this school. I understand that the negative comments should not be on here, but the parents are only venting. Maybe if the board would come out and actually observe what is going on than these type of comments will not be posted.
A lot of parents only wants what is best for the kids. I f KOTZ and FANELLI was at a school in the suburbs, they would have been gone a long time ago. I notice that this type of situation is happening because a lot of these families are low income. So the BOARD just doesn't care.
yes, we need to keep fighting for the kids. If scores are dropping we can't just blame Pluas but we can blame the whole ADMINISTRATION.
Let's pray we have a good school year. AND LET'S KEEP FIGHTING.
A lot of parents only wants what is best for the kids. I f KOTZ and FANELLI was at a school in the suburbs, they would have been gone a long time ago. I notice that this type of situation is happening because a lot of these families are low income. So the BOARD just doesn't care.
yes, we need to keep fighting for the kids. If scores are dropping we can't just blame Pluas but we can blame the whole ADMINISTRATION.
Let's pray we have a good school year. AND LET'S KEEP FIGHTING.
Tue Jul 14, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
I don't know the fine distinctions between "magnet schools," "selective enrollment schools," "lottery schools," or other arcane designations of the CPS bureaucracy. I just know that we placed our children in Gunsaulus Elementary because until this past year, Gunsaulus was the best, or should I say, the only option on the entire southwest side of Chicago. Other parts of the city have many such designated schools, but the SW side is a barren wasteland, where no CPS executive lives, and forgotten by the CPS bureaucracy. And now, there's people on this blog proposing moving the Gunsaulus selective-enrollment school to another part of the city! Thanks for nothing!!
Not that Gunsaulus wasn't a viable option for the SW side--until now. But in just one year, Kotz & Fanelli have turned a fine school into a cesspool. Trust me, if there was any other option on the entire southwest side of Chicago, our children would already be there. And no, charter schools are not an option. That's a fake alternative CPS created to privatize and ultimatly obliterate public education, absolving themselves of the responsibility of a vital public service, and we'll have no part of that degenerate enterprise.
The solution for the southwest side is to maintain Gunsaulus as the selective enrllment school it is, sans Kotz & Fanelli.
Not that Gunsaulus wasn't a viable option for the SW side--until now. But in just one year, Kotz & Fanelli have turned a fine school into a cesspool. Trust me, if there was any other option on the entire southwest side of Chicago, our children would already be there. And no, charter schools are not an option. That's a fake alternative CPS created to privatize and ultimatly obliterate public education, absolving themselves of the responsibility of a vital public service, and we'll have no part of that degenerate enterprise.
The solution for the southwest side is to maintain Gunsaulus as the selective enrllment school it is, sans Kotz & Fanelli.
Tue Jul 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Gunsaulus 2.0
The sad truth is that the board does not care. Teachers and parents have contacted EVERY department down at 125 and NOBODY seems to care. Michael Scott himself said he was tired of hearing about it...so tired in fact that people were discouraged from speaking at board meetings. The AIO is as guilty as Kotz. She is playing us all as stupid. She does nothing to help but tell people that she "met with Ms. Kotz and is handling the problem." If this is the case, then Kotz should be written up for insubordination because she is not listening. But the AIO probably never had these meetings in the first place. She covers her own butt and those in the area and dismisses concerns. And she even tried to get parents not to speak at a board meeting. Labor and relations has countless accounts of misdeeds by this administration. The Law Department has been involved. Huberman


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