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Tuesday, September 2, 2008
Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Another week, another week of Greektown restaurant meetings and Keystone Cops brawling for those who run the CTU and those who wish to.  Here's your home for the blow by blow that will almost surely be provided to us. 

Regular commenter Rodney Dangerfield says:  "I hear that PACT and CSDU are meeting today. Not together of course. You can't fit Lynch's and Dallas's egos in the same city nevertheless a room. In the meantime, Stewart is gathering her Executive Board to practice for her performance tomorrow. Rumor has it that PACT wants a referendum to recall Stewart, and CSDU wants to reinstate Dallas to the Vice President's office." 

Santorini (pictured) was one of my dad's favorites, especially for the octopus and that crazy garlic and potato appetizer. 



Comments
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 10:30 AMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I will be very glad when the meeting tomorrow is over. I think it will be a very interesting meeting and I will be curious to see what will happen if Marilyn tries to exercise the total control that she's talking. I believe she made her position very clear when she told the delegates that she would not accept any questions about the Executive Council's actions and that any attempt to discuss it would be dwelt with my her and her Sergeants in Arm. In my mind, this is inviting a fight (at least verbally).
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 12:40 PMBy: RegEd Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Was at Santorini last week - Had the grilled octopus and the skordalia (potato garlic spread) YUMMY! Marilyn will probably just start yelling "You're out of Order". I'm sure today's meeting will be a big tijme practice session. Dallas and Debbie are through, but I have to agree with those egos and they'll take the rest of the union with them. Hope we have one in 2010 after Marilyn and Co. runs through all our dough
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 1:49 PMBy: rodentface Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Marricat,

President Stewart did not say she would not accept any questions about the Executive Board's actions. She said, and I quote, "any motion brought before the House of Delegates which is inconsistent with the Constitution and By-Laws will be ruled out of order".

First, the meeting must be conducted in strict accordance with Robert's Rules. Many of the problems that occur in meetings happen because President Stewart violates the Constitution on a monthly basis, throwing out Robert's Rules of Order.

Second, the Constitution is absolutely clear about what may or may not be addressed in a meeting of the House of Delegates. Anything may be brought to the floor and acted upon.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 2:15 PMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! To Rodentface
Thank you very much for the clarification but I have heard something else from more than one delegate. If she just wants to stick to the constitution, I don't have a problem with it because the constitution gives the House a right to overrule any action taken by the Executive Council and my opinion based upon experience with a number of organization is that they should only have acted in an emergency (this was not an emergency). Otherwise a course of action should have been recommended to the House of Delegates.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 3:15 PMBy: To:Rodney D Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Say what you want about Lynch and Dallas......However, this city is having a difficult time finding a place to fit Marilyn nonetheless in a room. Someone should make sure to bring a muzzle tomorrow. Oh and don't forget a leash. That dog needs to be trained.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 3:20 PMBy: rodentface Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Marricat,

Re: ...a course of action should have been recommended to the House of Delegates.

The Executive Board followed Article XIV of the Constitution to a T. And Article XIV specifically gives the Executive Board the power to hold trials and remove members. Now, the Executive Board is also subject to the direction of the House and is directly responsible to the House, but neither of those things necessarily requires prior approval for the Executive Board's actions. I don't believe there is any doubt on this matter constitutionally. The question that I think will play out is What does it mean for the Executive Board to be subject to the direction of the House and directly responsible to the House? There is definitely room for interpretation there. My guess is it will all be sorted out in the courts at a cost of at least middle six figures to the Union.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 3:25 PMBy: To Rodentface Let The CTU Infighting Continue! You mean "it will all be sorted out in the courts at a cost of at least middle six figures to the Union (MEMBERS/TEACHERS)."
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 3:31 PMBy: rodentface to 3:25 Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Of course - I agree. It will cost the members; the Union is its members, not its leadership. I think, though, that many members have forgotten this crucial fact in every case except when it comes to the dues they cough up each month.

All this will change, and for the better, when rank and file members become active enough in their Union to do something about it. In a member driven Union, the issues we would be discussing concerning Union operations would be much different than the issues we are discussing today.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 4:05 PMBy: get off your couch Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I certainly hope the gallery will be overflowing and rocking tomorrow. I am not a delegate, but will be there for my second only delegate meeting. Bring some papers to correct or lesson plans to do if you need to multitask. We need a huge presence of members at this meeting. Carpool together, take public transportation, take a carpet ride (you know the song) get there if you can.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 5:37 PMBy: Retired Principal Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Will any visitors be allowed at the House of Delegate meeting?
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 5:54 PMBy: Retired Principal Let The CTU Infighting Continue! There is no union delegate package at 5:55 pm on the CTU website!
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 7:36 PMBy: To:Retired Principal Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Check csdu.org vs. the ctu website. I no longer depend on finding any useful info. on the ctu website. I'm sure once someone at csdu gets any information they will post it. You can also find delegates information in case it was emailed to them. I have yet to receive any information about the agenda. If and when someone does I am sure it will be posted on here. This is just another attempt for Marilyn to try and keep everyone in the dark. This time it won't work.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 7:40 PMBy: Wed. Agenda posted now Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Agenda for Wedneday Meeting
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 8:20 PMBy: Agenda??? Schmagenda??? Let The CTU Infighting Continue! What a waste of trees, ink and carbo footprints. The same old bulls*** budget, more of the politicians who take our money and stab us in the back time and time again. I can't wait until 2010 and these mopes hit the highway. Save your money my friends - Say no to Con-Con and now they start a campaign???? If the people who want our pensions have their way, con-con is a no-brainer. I just hope I can retire in 3 years.
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 8:52 PMBy: Must Scroll Down On Agenda Let The CTU Infighting Continue! When you click on the link to the Agenda be sure to scroll through all of the pages. It throws you off bc the 2nd page is an old agenda. GL
Tue Sep 2, 2008 at 10:16 PMBy: Key News on CSDU.org Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Check out the Delegates Package. Check out MS costly ($14,400+) "message"/justification to Members. Be sure to look at the budget in the delegates package. Any math & accounting teachers out there? And there's plenty more to read and question...like the dues increase to $912 this year. And much, much more!!!

Time to get active members!!! Check it out: www.csdu.org.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 8:22 AMBy: Is it true? Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Is it true that M.S.secretly agreed to use our pension money to pay for airport and she is talking about rising our union dues next year to $1100?
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 8:32 AMBy: Union Information Let The CTU Infighting Continue! September 3, 2008 Agenda

Letter to members explaining illegal removal of vice president

and hiring of financial operations manger. Do not we have an elected Treasurer to do this?

More spending.

Dues have increased this year to over $900 for the first time in history of the union.

DUES 08-09 are now $912 when did we vote to increase the dues? This was an illegal pass through they should only be $12 what was last years dues and subtract. If it is over $12 the mebership needs to vote on the increase.

Stewart Excuses
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 8:53 AMBy: Prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I'm keeping my same prediction:

Members will grumble at the meeting
MS will pass through whatever she wants to pass through
All items brought up by members will be dismissed
Early call to end meeting.

People will go home and gripe on this blog.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 9:16 AMBy: To: Prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Let me guess...the glass is always 1/2 empty? You just accept what is (and blog) as opposed to getting active and working for change. Your delegate (who gets paid for being a delegate), never shows up to the monthly meeting, posts information and is never confronted by the school(s) he/she represents. What are you waiting for? A fairy godmother to wave her magic wand?

Get active. There are coalitions who are developing strategies to uphold the Constitution and start REALLY protecting CTU members rights. Check out www.csdu.org today.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 9:30 AMBy: Ruth Constiutional Rights Rodentface is correct in saying that they followed Article 14 to a T. However, that doesn’t preclude delegates from bringing anything they feel pertinent to the floor of the House. I would say this is a pertinent issue because of the lack of standards used in the proceedings. The delegates certainly have a right to rescind the action on that basis.
The final outcome of this will be decided in the courts and, from what I have heard it has already cost the vice president in legal fees for one attorney, the cost to the CTU for 6 attorneys has to be 6 times more and well over the $100,000 mark. Stewart’s attorney fees are covered by the CTU, but once again I ask, who is paying the fees of those representing Koffman, Walsh, and Barron and who will pay the personal damage awards of those three to Dallas if he wins the lawsuit? Further, who is paying the attorney fees in the case of the UPC (Perrotte, Schultz, and Barron) against Dallas? I’d like to see a cancelled check. The big winner in this, as usual, is Poltrock.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 9:39 AMBy: To: Ruth Outrageous Legal Fees I also understand that there is another lawsuit against Stewart and the CTU ready to be filed. Poltrock may be the big winner now, but he better put it in the bank. By 2010 the current administration will be gone and he with them. .
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 10:42 AMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I think the Executive Council should have been smart and not removed Ted until after the House meeting. There is a good chance that they could have gotten enough delegates to vote "yes" and then the action would have been above board. Marilyn also could open up the financial records so that people can see how deep the corruption runs. She is acting extremely suspicious by refusing to disclose. Once again, she could have ended all of this a long time ago by not acting like a dictator.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 12:08 PMBy: To: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Take a look at the Delegates Package and financial statement (3 pages) if you want to see budget manipulation of spending.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 12:56 PMBy: By: To: Prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I gave up being active.

The fact that two of these coalitions are being run by Dallas and Lynch doesn't give me much hope.

You, the members voted Lynch out.
You, the members, voted MS in.

Dallas is a crook. Why would I fight to replace one crook with another.


I gave up because the union is done. The members, through passivity and bad decisions, are hopeless.

Good Luck tonight. My predictions will hold. If someone is ever willing to actually fight, I will be there. Typing and howling will get you nowhere.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 1:24 PMBy: Update Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Dallas is allowed to be at the House Meeting tonight.

the attorneys for CTU will be sanctioned at a later date for lying to Judge that they would not lock Mr. Dallas out of his office or exclude him from his elected duties.

Good work UPC.

Violate the CTU Constitution.

Violate the Trust of the Courts.

Violate the Trust of the membership.

House of Delegates id the supreme body of the union.

“I move that the House of Delegates reinstate the vice president’s membership, under Article 2, Sec. IX of the By-Laws which states: the House of Delegates....may act upon pertinent matters brought before it in due order by any of its members. “If I have a second I’ll speak to it,” and then go on........

You are out of Order!

I object to the ruling of the chair.


At that time immediately there has to be a vote by the HoD to consider the motion irregardless of what the Chair says.
Then it needs to be voted on by the HoD to allow the presentation of the motion.

Bring your cameras and video records to document the illegal activity of Stewart and her UPC.

LP heard your were purple today!
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 2:38 PMBy: To: Prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I predict tonight you will see a positive step toward change. Get ready to watch a new era begin!!!
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 2:50 PMBy: To:Prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! You gave up to serve members,Nick.You never did.M.S.was not voted in by members.She was voted in because..you know how.
By the way M.S.earned the gold medal as a WORST INVENTION of the 20th Century.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 3:47 PMBy: breaking news re dallas lockout Let The CTU Infighting Continue! from the csdu email list:

For Immediate Release
September 3, 2008

Judge Puts CTU Executive Board/Trustee Decisions Re: Vice President on Hold

Chicago - In a decision today, Judge Kinnard has ruled that ousted CTU Vice President Ted Dallas is to be reinstated to his Chicago Teachers Union membership. Judge Kinnard admonished Attorney Larry Poltrock and his associates representing the CTU, for promising the Judge that the CTU would not lock Mr. Dallas out of his office or exclude him from his elected duties until the complete appeal process is decided by the courts for a proper decision. Mr. Dallas was removed from the CTU offices on August 21, 2008.

Poltrock & Poltrock and the CTU, will be sanctioned by Judge Kinnard on Thursday, September 11, 2008.

As of today, Mr. Dallas is allowed to return to his office and resume his responsibilities. He will be permitted to attend the first House of Delegates Meeting for the 2008-2009 school year this evening at Plumbers Hall, 1340 W. Washington Blvd. The meeting is scheduled for 4PM to 6PM. Mr. Dallas will be available to make comments to the press when the meeting adjourns. For further updates go to www.csdu.org.


The Coalition for a Strong Democratic Union, CSDU, is an independent organization fighting the undemocratic and ineffective current Chicago Teachers Union leadership. Our goal is to refocus the union's direction to that of protecting its membership and the schools we serve.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 4:08 PMBy: The Truth Sets Everyone Free Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Finally!!!! A judge sets things straight! This is what we needed vs. a bunch of people or person pretending to play judge. Looks like it will be downhill for M.S. and her crew! I feel sorry for those sheep who hid behind her vs. standing up and doing what was right. Cheers!!!!! Now lets see those receipts from M.S. and have a "real" audit done.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 4:43 PMBy: Hey Rosie! Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Might want to change this: http://www.ctunet.com/assets/Dallas%20Expelled%20From%20Union%208-20-08.pdf and several other items on the fabulous site.

Seems you, your dancin' galpal and illustrious chief of staff spoke too soon. I've saved your quotes from the Trib & Suntimes. I love when those who live in glass houses cast stones and the glass house shatters. Bet eating all those lies just isn't the same as the restaurants you've expensed the past couple of years, is it?

It ain't over til it's over. Can't wait to see what happens tonight.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 5:04 PMBy: Amazing Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Really this is incrediable. The AFT needs to put our union into recievership regardless of what happens tonight. We need intervention and a new election. If this keeps up the AFT will lose one of its largest locals.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 6:59 PMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I'm glad that we have a judge who's willing to stand up for what he/she believes. It should be interesting with Ted back because Marilyn is going to have to deal with him whether she wants to or not.

I like the tactic suggested above for the House meeting tonight.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 9:26 PMBy: prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! How did it go?


Was I right?
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 10:32 PMBy: let's get it straight Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Ted's membership was tentatively reinstated because he today he filed for an appeal of the decision. Only during the appeal process is this in force.Once the appeals process is concluded, pending the final decision of the appeal board, it would be removed permanently.

He and Linda are still facing giving depositions on Sept. 9, over the $50,000 they stole from the caucus treasury.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 10:51 PMBy: To:Let's get it straight Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Would you pls be more specific?First ,your grammar is little disturbing,Nick.
Secondly,on Spt 11 judge will decide not you.
You guys testified falsely in the court so do not be surprised that judge will not trust you.How about the ARDC,Larry?
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 10:56 PMBy: to:Larry Let The CTU Infighting Continue! L.P you looked like left in the middle of the Boystown at midnight.
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 11:17 PMBy: prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! So I was right.


Nothing Happened
Wed Sep 3, 2008 at 11:34 PMBy: delegate Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Nice show.

Fooled again!

How come all the mics were shut off? Is that legal?

Strange how only certain mics were on for certain speakers.

How come we did not have a Vice President report and he was on the House Floor?
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 12:03 AMBy: prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! AFT won't do anything. They will ramrod whatever they want down your throats.

You'll take it and like it.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 1:02 AMBy: To Prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Please stop rubbing your magic 8 ball bc in case your parents never told you.... you get the same answer every time. You should go into fortune telling. I've never seen anyone have such incredible, accurate insight before. NOT. And to set things straight, YOU will take it and like it! There was a reason MS didn't try and pull any of her planned BS tonight. Ted is back and that is what everyone wanted and was ready to fight for. BTW I heard you like to ramrod things down your throat. Ah, lets get it straight...how much money have you stolen or shall I say mismanaged? Nick, you lied in court and things have a way of catching up with you. Might as well buy a new leather jacket while you can. P.S. Didn't anyone ever tell you leather jackets are soooo passe?????
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 1:48 AMBy: prediction Let The CTU Infighting Continue! So, I was right?

Nothing happened?

Good for you. I hope things work out.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 5:10 AMBy: The UPC Cabal Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Gaining control of the voting procedures was the first step of many. You can't change corruption overnight. Just takes time. Slowly but surely, step by step, inch by inch.

It ain't over until the fat lady sings and preferably, in an orange jumpsuit...with her minions. "Prediction", you won't mind trading plastic "leather" for polyester. It's all the same isn't it? And why aren't you typing in all caps? You love to scream...even on the Internet!
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 6:24 AMBy: rodentface Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Gaining control of the voting procedures was the first step of many.

That's exactly right. The resolution on voting that was adopted at the House meeting will serve as a foundation for delegates in fighting for what they think is right. When so many have lost faith in the vote counting process, something is terribly, horribly wrong. Accurate and -verifiable- vote counting is the first step towards restoring democracy in the House and in the Union as a whole. In the case of the House of Delegates, all issues begin and end with procedure and process, regardless of support or opposition to the topic of debate. Now that contentious votes may be accurately, and transparently compiled, the rest of the procedures and processes in the House that interfere with the ability of the House to conduct its business in a democratic fashion must be addressed.

The order of the agenda, while the President's prerogative, is incompatible to a legitimate democratic process and to the proper functioning of the deliberative body that is the House. Likewise, the failure to utilize Robert's Rules of Order, Revised, (as called for by the Constitution) contributes to chaos and acrimony.

Yes - step by step, inch by inch - on the -issues-. It has only just begun. There is more to come.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 6:59 AMBy: Been around the CTU for 12 years Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Congratulations to all members of the house of delegates who understood that the only way to preserve integrity in the democratic process is to ensure that, (1) YOU as delegates are counted fairly, and (2) the will of the supreme decision making body of the CTU will dictate policy making.

It is clear that no member of the UPC including President Stewart herself knew a motion of this magnitude would be presented. The three people who spoke against the new voting method tried their best to defeat it, but were overwhelmed with common sense. The UPC's best microphone person, Gail Koffman, could not stop the inevitable. As much as Stewart wanted to sound like she was in support of legitimate vote counts, she was trying to convince delegates during debate that she could come up with a better method in time, even though the method introduced was specific, and covered every angle to solidify an honest vote count from here on end.

I would not be surprised if Stewart and her cronies try to change this defining moment, which is going to be the beginning of the end to the UPC once and for all. DO NOT TRY IT UPC. THE DELEGATES WILL STOP YOU IN YOUR TRACKS AND THE UPC LEADERSHIP WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE CHEATERS AND THIEVES.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 7:03 AMBy: description? Let The CTU Infighting Continue! anyone want to take a shot at describing the meeting, step by step?
it'd be a great service for those of us who weren't there to have a clear sense of what happened.

-- alexander
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 8:27 AMBy: Retired Principal Let The CTU Infighting Continue! What was the resolution for the voting procedure?
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 9:02 AMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! To: Predictions

You were right and wrong at the same time. I believe something would have happened if Ted had not been reinstated at least temporarily by the courts. It also sounds like something did happen, a voting reform resolution was passed over Marilyn's objection. That wouldn't have happened in the past. I would like to see a copy of the resolution.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 9:09 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! "...anyone want to take a shot at describing the meeting, step by step? It'd be a great service for those of us who weren't there to have a clear sense of what happened..." (Alexander, this morning).

Anyone who wants to read about past meetings of the House of Delegates can now get the analytical reporting of Theresa D. Daniels (Terry Daniels to most friends) in the back issues of Substance. We have now updated back to January 2007 at www.substancenews.net and will continue moving backwards and forwards from there.

For seven years, beginning when Deborah Lynch was CTU President, Terry Daniels has reported most of the monthly meetings of the House of Delegates. In 2004 (when we only published two issues because of staffing problems), that chain was slightly broken. But as of today, people can ready Terry's reports going back to January 2007 at www.substancenews.net.

The report of the September meeting will be published in the October Substance (to be published and mailed October 1).

Our report of the June 2008 meeting (when Marilyn Stewart flipped a "No" vote on the budget into a "Yes" vote and got away with it) is now out in print in the September 2008 edition of Substance and has been mailed to all of our print edition subscribers. It will go on line at midnight October 10. (We publish our print edition for our subscribers and put up our back issues on the 10th of the following month every month from now on).

Hope this helps.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 9:12 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! One other thought on the CTU House of Delegates meetings...

Every meeting of the House of Delegates since I first became a delegate (Tilden, 1978) has been recorded by a stenographic court reporters.

Those records should be published monthly on the Chicago Teachers Union Website, but most people don't even know they exist.

The monthly publication -- by the CTU -- of the stenographic transcript of each House meeting would certainly give every union member and idea of what was going on during House meetings. Given the fact that this school year teacher members of CTU will be paying $900 in union dues, there is no reason why CTU can't perform this service to its members.

The transcript will be at the CTU office in a few days.

People should ask why it is not at www.ctunet.com.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 9:34 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! "He and Linda are still facing giving depositions on Sept. 9, over the $50,000 they stole from the caucus treasury..." Posted by "Let's get it straight" last night at 10:32 p.m.

ALEXANDER!!!!!

I think it's time to out every individual who uses blogging as a smokes screen for libel.

I've already made clear how I deal with anonymous sources, but this is the second time in a week when Catalyst, through District299.com, has published a libel. It's really time to think through which users here should be allowed to continue to use pseudonyms, and to let the rest of us know what the policy will be. It's one thing for people to beat themselves around behind these cutesy screens, and another for stuff like that.

I've been covering the various hearings and litigations that are erupting out of all this stuff within the Chicago Teachers Unions. It does not help anyone understand anything to report here that two people "stole" $50,000 from UPC out of context. That debate is before the courts, the court records are public records, and people know how to get them.

Next month (October Substance) I will be reporting that UPC lawsuit, but, needless to say, the issues are a bit more complex than Anonymous, Anonymous II, and Anonymous III (who could all be the same individual) will every let on. However, since Anonymous... and his spawn want to be involved, maybe they'll be giving depositions next. But in another lawsuit.

Please think about it, Alexander. There are many models of how information can be reported and communicated, and they are evolving thanks to the Web and blogs. But people shouldn't be allowed to spew out libels just because they can type quickly. And the places that provide platforms to those people should think this one through very carefully.

We know we can use words like c___, and f___ and s___ here. But much more damaging things can be posted here without a second thought. Let's have that second thought.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 10:39 AMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Alexander

I agree with George. No one should be permitted to publish something on this site that would be grounds for a libel suit. A newspaper would not publish these statements and it would be better if you didn't either. I have had comments kicked out just because I chose the wrong word, how are these getting in?
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 10:40 AMBy: Double Agent H008 Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Are you playing "James Bond Game" Mr H?
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 11:17 AMBy: Ruth Confusing the Delegates It was so great to see how many delegates showed up for the meeting, especially since they must have all had tiring days in school. This shows that they are receiving and responding to the communications that the CDSU is sending to them. They were primed to support any pro-democratic motion that came to a vote. However, please don’t rule out the fact that others were not allowed to speak or bring motions from the microphones. They were continuously called out of order and the microphones turned off – all in direct conflict with Robert’s Rules. It’s well and good to have the veracity of the vote count established and another to be able to make sure the CTU Constitution on delegate rights are followed. The motion on the vote counting placated the delegates when they should have been assuring that they would be allowed to make motions. When the makers of the motions were called out of order, the entire House should have insisted that the chair be over-ruled. Instead the delegates did nothing because they thought they confusedly and incorrectly perceived that there was nothing left to be done.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 11:27 AMBy: Ruth Sorry, Correction because they confusedly and incorrectly perceived that there was nothing left to be done.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 3:32 PMBy: bernard Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I found the moment when the parliamentarian stated from the microphone approximately “we were the most ill behaved group he had worked with” to be tad out of line. He should recognize by now that the three+ incompetent & unethical officers have driven us to “the means justify the ends”. In other words until Stewart and her embarrassingly inept group creep away, we will continue to fight them. They will have a very difficult stealing another vote (but I know the UPC will keep trying).
The fact that our nearly useless $250.000 yearly paid President called on her highly paid strike breaker pal (Tracie Cobb Evans) to muddled through a numerously revised legislative recommendations list is an insult to every Union member.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 5:12 PMBy: rodentface Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I found the moment when the parliamentarian stated from the microphone approximately “we were the most ill behaved group he had worked with” to be tad out of line.

I was amused by his comment, but agree that it was a tad out of line. I also don't believe meetings would be nearly as problematic if two things were changed.

First, meetings need to be run in strict accordance with Robert's Rules of Order, Revised Edition as called for in the CTU Constitution and By-Laws. It's obvious that the chair simply don't know or understand Robert's Rules.

Second, the agenda must be adjusted to give the House, which is the representative, democratic, deliberative, and governing body of the Union, a voice. As the governing body of the Union, the House of Delegates must be given the opportunity to bring motions to the floor, debate them, vote on them, and let the chips fall where they may. The presidency is merely a supervisory office - chief administrative officer - not an executive one. The House must restore its constitutional rights as the governing body of the Union. New business and Q&A must be moved ahead of the worthless officer reports which currently function as filler to protect the UPC and could just as easily be posted on the website instead.

I don't believe either of these things will happen without overwhelming insistence from the House, but I do hope the opposition can inflict these two adjustments on the current leadership.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 8:52 PMBy: Karen Lewis Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I cannot agree more with rodentface. This is an issue that has been under attack since the first day I walked into the House. Retiree Delegate Gerald Adler, insisted that House of Delegates had the ultimate authority and was summarily ruled out of order by a succession of presidents starting with Tom Reece. The Constitution is clear, but most delegates either don't have a copy or have never thought it was important enough because of business as usual.

I was amazed at the dignity with which the delegate from Kelly introduced a new voting measure. While I was not suprised at the complaints about how convoluted the measure was, it seemed to be written in such a way as to be explicit so as to defy controversy. I did understand some of our colleagues frustration because as teachers, we know not everyone is an auditory learner, but from what I read, it is fairly simple. Ayes to one side, nays to the other and count off. 1 to whatever. How hard is that? But when those who wish to preserve the status quo claim that we have a perfectly good method now of vote-counting, unfortunately, it is simply not true. Those not aligned with any caucus have vociferously complained about a lack of credibility in recent counts. I for one believe President Stewart when she says she wants a fair and honest account. Let us all give her the opportunity to do so.
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 10:37 PMBy: Reg Ed Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Can you spell sarcasm??????????????????
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 10:47 PMBy: You Believe.... Let The CTU Infighting Continue! ..President Stewart wants fair and honest accounts?
Thu Sep 4, 2008 at 10:49 PMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I hope Karen was being sarcastic because I can't believe that more than a few diehards would believe that Marilyn wants anything approaching a democratic system.
Fri Sep 5, 2008 at 2:06 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Since Substance won't have our reports from September 3 in print until October 1 and on line November 10, I'm hoping that people from the House of Delegates will post their reports here as well as circulate them in the schools to their members. As more and more CPS teachers and others stop by here every day, the chances of that increase.

Alexander, every months there are more than a hundred often very interesting reports from the House of Delegates circulated, school-by-school, by Delegates. Most of these are now written on computers, and many are very funny. It's a massive "Roshamon" (spelling?) since everyone sees something slightly different.

There were more than 700 people seated at Plumbers Hall when the meeting was called to order Wednesday, one of the largest groups in history. A year of teacher bashing and the realization that Marilyn has been rigging the vote counts for more than a year (first exposed here and in Substance after the infamous August 31 no "No" vote fiasco on the contract) has energized people, not demoralized them.

I have a hunch that if you ask, people will send in their Delegate reports for the joy of careful readers here. In addition to devoting an enormous amount of time to serving as a delegate (retirees), our main reporter for Substance (Theresa Daniels) spends dozens of hours every month compiling her reports.

But, as I said, those reports are always on a month delay, and by today hundreds of schools have received reports from Wednesday by their Delegate.

The only place you won't find information worth reading about what happened Wednesday night is at www.ctunet.com -- the official CTU Website. A weekly visit to that joke is a must, so that everyone can see just how self serving and incompetent Marilyn's group really is.

While the rest of us -- here, in the schools, in the homes of parents, and elsewhere -- are slowly adapting to the information world of the 21st Century, Marilyn Stewart and her people are rushing headlong back into the 19th. A quick read of the Chicago Union Teacher combined with a quick visit to the Website is all it takes. And anyone who thinks that leadership of the AFT -- despite all of Randi's promises to Marilyn Stewart -- doesn't know how dumb what's left at the top of Chicago is is...

Have a nice Friday, shipmates.
Fri Sep 5, 2008 at 3:40 PMBy: Doble agent 008 Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Zipper in the back
Fri Sep 5, 2008 at 3:41 PMBy: Double agent (misspelling) Let The CTU Infighting Continue! zipper .....
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 8:55 AMBy: Rufus Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Is it true that Dallas was reinstated by a judge as a Union V.P and M.S.is investigated?
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 9:08 AMBy: To: Rufus Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Dallas' CTU membership was reinstated and allowed him to go to the House Meeting. MS and her swat team of legal beagles the members pay for must return to court Thurs. where they will be sanctioned by the judge for BLATANTLY LYING to the judge that they would not fire Dallas or remove his duties until the civil trial was decided. Obviously, Queen Bee is not only above the CTU Constitution, but the law/US Constitution as well. The sanction is very serious business and the Queen Bee turned purple when she heard about it. For more info go to www.csdu.org and get the TRUE facts on the "state of the union"! Unlike the CTU site, csdu.org is updated daily and with info the CTU doesn't want you to know. Spread the word!!!
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 9:13 AMBy: Retired Principal Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Who is Charles Brown at Wells High School?
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 10:02 AMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Does that mean if the Civil Suit takes the whole school year that Ted will remain in office until then? I kind of doubt that Marilyn is going to give Ted any real duties so it will just be what he takes on his own.
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 10:50 AMBy: TO: Rufus, From CSDU Dallas Temporary Reinstatement At this point in time Dallas' membership reinstatement is only good until he exhausts all his internal Union appeals. Please sign up to receive all the latest information vai email from CSDU News and Views for CTU Members at: ctucoalition.com, or at www.csdu.org
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 10:53 AMBy: Correction Sorry ...via email...
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 3:20 PMBy: By:Rufus.. Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Thank you for advice the website is really informative.
Is it true that one of the Field Reps tried to spy using his two countrywomen ?
Is it true that he tried to spy against TD and MS as well because he wants to be a President?
TD and MS beware he will f..you both.
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 4:15 PMBy: from Kelly H.S. Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Are you writing about H?Shame.
Sat Sep 6, 2008 at 6:27 PMBy: from Kelly H.S. Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Yeah, it's a shame that our field rep works his ass off for us and fights for us. Horrible. I can't believe we tolerate it.

A total embarrassment that he isn't an entrenched partisan committed to bringing down everyone else. So he has political ambitions - whoop-dee-freaking-doo. That is such a shock to hear about someone who works downtown for the Union. It's almost as if it's unheard of. I'm reeling with disbelief. Can you imagine such a thing???

Woe is us. Woe is he. Woe, woe, woe, I say!
Sun Sep 7, 2008 at 4:53 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Whatever happened inside last Wednesday's House of Delegates meeting, one of the most interesting things happening outside was that CTU lawyer Lawrence Poltrock sat outside leaning against a car looking very sad, holding a folder that had "Marilyn Stewart" written on it.

Rumor is that Stewart will now throw Poltrock to the same wolves she tried to throw Dallas to. It would have been better if she had informed the House of Delegates how many billable quarters (quarter hours billed at around $100 per "quarter") she authorized paying Poltrock and his associates, but the delegates haven't gotten that information .... yet....

I will be interesting to see whether Poltrock is sanctioned by Judge Kinnard this coming Thursday. I'll be there to cover that story. Meanwhile, the fact of the record is that Poltrock represented his client (Stewart, as "CEO" of CTU) and told the judge in July that there would be no negative sanctions against Ted Dallas if and when the Executive Board rubber stamped Stewart's charges against Dallas.

Everyone here knows what happened since then.

The days after the Executive Board vote, Stewart had Dallas locked out of his office at CTU. He was cut off the payroll. His personal belongings were shipped from CTU to his home and dumped there. He was cut off from union membership. Etc.

So either Poltrock lied to the judge, or he was lied to by the "CEO" of his client. Either way, he has to face the judge this Thursday, and as it stands now, it sure looks like Ted Dallas has not been restored to the office of Vice President of the CTU. What happened last Wednesday didn't change a thing about the misrepresentation that CTU made in court.

And, by the way, the court is likely to have jurisdiction over the Dallas case, just as it had jurisdiction over my case (which ended after nearly four years in May 2008) and over the case involving June Davis, Audrey May, and Diana Sheffer. Here is how.

Ted Dallas was elected on May 18, 2007, to a three year term as Vice President of the CTU. He was not elected "Chief Operating Officer" under the "Chief Executive Officer" despite Marilyn's recent corporate fantasies. And he was elected to that office for a three-year term which ends in May 2010.

Now until the summer of 2008, that term of office was in effect a contract for employment between the union and the officer. The only ways that the contract ended was if the officer died (as Jacqueline Vaughn did in office in January 1994) or left office for some other office (as Robert M. Healey did in July 1984). In the long (75 year) history of the Chicago Teachers Union, no officer has ever been impeached, because there is no impeachment clause in the CTU Constitution, and no officer has ever been removed from office for misconduct because there is no such provision in the CTU Constitution.

By invoking the paragraph they did to "try" Ted Dallas at the Executive Board, the "CEO" and her dwindling cadre of cheerleaders invoked new powers that were never contemplated in the history of the union. The only people ever kicked out of CTU under that provision were strikebreakers. Even Stewart's Recording Secretary, Mary McGuire, has admitted this in her July 20, 2008 letter to the members of the Executive Board. In that letter, Mary McGuire told the E Board members that the invocation of that power was unprecedented:

"Article XVI has never been used in the history of the union to bring charges against an officer... It has, heretofore, only been used to take action against strikebreakers..." (Letter of Mary McGuire to all the members of the Executive Board, July 20, 2008).

If the members of the Chicago Teachers Union want the union to have a "Recall" provision in the CTU Constitution and By-Laws for elected officers, it is well within the powers of the members (or their Delegates) to ask for a referendum and to vote to place such powers into the Constitution. Those powers have not existed and do not exist -- certainly they are not the powers of the Executive Board or the "CEO."

There is a lot of expensively stupid stuff going on at the top of the CTU right now. Marilyn Stewart and her shrinking "team" have been more concerned about lining up for photo ops behind Mayor Daley and dutifully carrying out Mayor Daley's orders than with representing the union's members against the teacher bashing juggernauts that have been roiling the past year.

Marilyn Stewart did not appear at one hearing on the school changes in February 2008.

Marilyn Stewart did not demand that every one of those 19 proposals be rescinded by the Board of Education, but only asked -- at the last minute -- that the Board "postpone" its vote for 90 days. And she did that at a media event (February 25, 2008) where the main speaker (Dal Lawrence of Toledo Ohio) was a union guy talking about how the union was the best partner the boss could have for firing tenured teachers!

Marilyn Stewart went out of her way during the summer of 2008 to divide her own union to let it be conquered by Mayor Daley's corporate agenda, while she spent every opportunity over the summer (especially at the Democratic Convention in Denver) shoring up the mayor and betraying her own members.

And now that school has begun and the messes created by Mayor Daley's minions on the school board and the 5th floor at Clark St. are once again sabotaging hundreds of schools, Marilyn Stewart has devoted hundreds of thousands of dollars of union funds and thousands of hours of union staff work to ...

getting rid of the CTU Vice President illegally.

Marilyn Stewart was not at the August 23 Board of Education meeting, and there were already dozens of major things going wrong in the schools. The "union" leader who took on Arne Duncan at the August 23 Board meeting was not the leader of the Teachers union, but the president of the Principals and Administrators Association, Clarice Berry. Berry was the one who denounced an Arne Duncan merit pay plan as a "Wal Mart Pay Plan" -- which it is.

Meanwhile, Marilyn Stewart has already signed on to that Wal Mart Pay Plan. It's called SMART, and Marilyn Stewart stood beside Arne Duncan to smile and praise that merit pay plan four days after her election victory in May 2007. That was the same time her other minions were putting the final touches on the fast track plan for firing teachers ("Fresh Start").

Neither the SMART (the merit pay plan) nor the Fresh Start (the "Let's help the boss fire tenured teachers...") plan has ever been submitted, in its entirety, to a vote of the members of the Chicago Teachers Union.

That's the kind of leadership you get in a union when the elected president decides she is really a "Chief Executive Officer" and begins having Donald Trump "CEO" fantasies that others help her put into praxis. She should have been stopped long ago, but her advisors, by the union's very very expensive attorneys, by the members of the Executive Board, or by the House of Delegates.

Instead, she has created a record, unparalleled in the 75 year history of the Chicago Teachers Union, of betrayal of every principle of unionism.

So naturally she is trying to fire the one member of her "team" who actually acted like a union person before getting elected and going downtown.

When he was delegate in the schools (most recently, Wells High School) Ted Dallas chaired more PPC meetings, filed more grievances, and helped more union members than Mairlyn Stewart, Mary McGuire, and Mark Ochoa did in their entire careers. If this weren't all so serious as school beings and class sizes erupt again and Arne Duncan prepares to screw the dwindling number of general high schools again, it would be a joke, and Marilyn Stewart would be the face of that joke.

But this is Chicago.

2008.

Happy New (School) Year, shipmates.
Sun Sep 7, 2008 at 6:56 AMBy: Please explain more about a recall provison Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I would very much like to see both Dallas and MS recalled and a new election held. Regardless of the unfair trail for Dallas he helped us get this current contract which is breaking our union and with a current 5.6% CPI is costing each member hundreds of dollars in real income.

While he may have objected to MS not counting the vote in House for the contract appropriately, Dallas never the less supported this contract. He needs to go too. How do we get a recall vote?
Sun Sep 7, 2008 at 5:17 PMBy: Chris to:Please explain Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Dear Please Explain:
There is no recall provision in the Constitution.
According to my understanding it could be done as follow:
1.Disrepute charges etc see TD case- high risk of legal action and costs associated .Accuser could be personally liable.
2.Motion for referendum or recall-The House of Delegates is our superior authority and should decide to recall elected officers.
Again NO RECALL PROVISION EXISTS.
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 3:17 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! We've reported as much of this story as we can in the print editions of Substance, going back to that silly "In Solidarity" letter from Marilyn Stewart to Arne Duncan last winter. We're reporting in our September print edition as much as we had (our deadline was prior to Poltrock (and his client, the CTU) getting spanked in Judge Kinnard's courtroom Wednesday, September 3, 2008, so we missed that part of the story) at the time.

As usual, Marilyn and her palace guard are refusing to speak to the press about it (not just Substance, I understand), only issuing prepared statements and avoiding press conferences. I suspect that they would hold a press conference if John Ostenburg were going to do the speaking to the press, but given the facts and the abilities of the people in Marilyn's inner circle, they aren't going to risk the debacle they would have with the members having to watch their president (er, "CEO" -- now she's the "CEO" of CTU; everyone remembers that in May 2007 CTU held the union's first election of a "CEO" -- just ask Marilyn Stewart) on TV again, only speaking this time (instead of just standing in her assigned spot behind Mayor Daley at the DNC).

We've posted back issues to the Web (our new site at substancenews.net), and by this point they include all the documents I've put into print. Since we've also been covering every rigged vote Stewart has pulled off since last August 31 (her refusal to call for the "NO" votes at the House of Delegates the night she rushed through the contract without a full discussion), people can now catch up if they have the time and patience.

We don't post one month's print content to the Web until midnight on the 10th of the following month. So what we're reporting in September is now available in print, but won't be on the Web for another 30 days. It's the only way to ensure fairness to the people who pay for their print subscriptions (and usually provide other support to Substance).

The story is available at substancenews.net.

Part of it are also available at the CSDU site at csdu.org while more is becoming available at the CORE site, too.

There is just not a lot of information at that silly "ctunet.com" site that people are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars of their union dues for. Given the fact that teachers in CTU are going to be paying more than $900 union dues this year, a visit to CTUnet.com is perhaps a traumatic event, just as trying to get your ($150,000 per year) field rep to answer the phone is. Oh, there are one or two people at CTU actually working on behalf of the membres in the schools this week -- but they are fewer than the ones who devote all their time to servicing the Stewart dictatorship.

Did everyone notice that for the first time in the 75-year history of the Chicago Teachers Union, the "new" union stationery lists only the union president and not the other officers or the trustees. I once research all the way back to the 1930s in union archives, and I can not think of one time when the union stationery was purged of the names of the elected officers and trustees.

Does this mean that Marilyn has plans to eradicate other officers and trustees before she and her cronies are finished with their Great Purge project? Heck, it's the way "CEOs" operate. Just tune in to one of those Donald Trump shows.
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 9:27 AMBy: wedding bells Let The CTU Infighting Continue! is someone getting married at the mart?
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 3:43 PMBy: Court Update Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Dallas has full subpoena power to any documents relating to his termination and past practices.

A third law firm now is involved in the case.

It is estimated that $200K has now been spent on the removal of Dallas.

Attorneys for Poltrock again lied to the judge by stating Dallas was never removed from office or obstructed from his elected duties.

Did you all figure out who is getting married?
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 3:54 PMBy: open or closed campus vote Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Hey, why are we being asked to vote on open or closed campus now?
Is it so the kids can spend more time in the school building? I don't get it. someone please explain...............
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 6:02 PMBy: Margaret Wilson Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Open and closed campus must be voted on every year. The closed campus was started for safety reasons because it was not safe for students to be outside in certain neighborhoods. Since teachers had to stay with students for lunch, lunch was put at the end of the school day which is why teachers get out 45 minutes earlier. In most closed campus schools, the morning and afternoon breaks were put together which gave teachers 20 min. to eat.
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 8:03 PMBy: re closed campus Let The CTU Infighting Continue! This should have been voted on last May. The vote is really to change the starting and ending time spelled out on the contract for teachers. While most faculty like this arrangement, it should still be done on secret ballot with input only from teachers since they're the ones affected by this change. Since PSRPs' starting and ending times remain the same whether campus is open or closed, they do not vote.
Mon Sep 8, 2008 at 9:15 PMBy: Late breaking update Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Ted Dallas has been reinstated temporarily as the Vice-President of the Chicago Teachers Union.

more details as we get the the reinstatement letter.
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 2:59 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Aside from the Ted Dallas question (which has apparently been resolved by the courts, even as Marilyn Stewart is sending in a fifth lawyer -- at union expense -- to lose on her behalf), at least as big a question at the September 3 House of Delegates meeting was the union's budget vote in June.

Debbie Lynch correctly moved -- now that a half dozen people are willing to sign affidavits saying they counted the votes at that House meeting and 'NO' won on the budget vote -- to reconsider the vote on the CTU budget from June. Marilyn's people flipped the vote from "No" to "Yes" as we've reported and has been discussed endlessly here. It wasn't the first time she'd done it (August 31, 2007 was the most dramatic, when the "NO" votes simply disappeared) but has the most long-term impact because the members still haven't been given accurate and "transparent" information about CTU expenses.

Marilyn and her people shouted, screamed and bullied down Deb Lynch (almost coming to the point of reprising their "arrest" of Lynch from June 2005, which I reported exclusively in detail, although it was also in the Tribune back in the day when the Tribune had reporters covering news) despite the reality that was in front of the delegates. My hunch is that had Marilyn's "Security" detail (those four off-duty cops who don't wear their badges or any identification, but who patrol union meetings) tried to remove Lynch, it would not have gone as easily as when they did it in June 2005. The majority of the House might have stopped it, leading to some really nasty stuff.

As it is now, Marilyn's claims that the budget will go from Red ink to Black this fiscal year has got to be examined. And one apparent question is whether that $78,000 per month is really interest on that loan Marilyn took out after she allowed the treasury to go from a $5 million surplus (in 2004) to a $3 million deficit (by January 2008) -- a total wipe out of $8 million in less than four years!

The reason for Lynch's motion and why the majority of the House still wants to know what should have become transparent in June is that Marilyn has still managed to lie her way out of every factual question about where those $8 million went. And "Jackie and Tom (Vaughn and Reece) and Debbie (Lynch) did it!" no longer impresses anyone, except as a laugh line.

The CEO of CTU is where the buck stops, but so far she's managed to waste $8 million of those bucks and keep the House from getting any more information than it had a year ago.
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 6:39 AMBy: to:wedding bells Let The CTU Infighting Continue! M&M?
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 7:53 AMBy: Wedding bells: The answer Let The CTU Infighting Continue! This is going to be one of the most surprising "unions" since Jacko & Lisa Marie...sure hope Sandy S. didn't have her future hubby write the pre-nup. Then again, he hasn't won a case in a long time.

More cronyism at the Mart? Sure! The break-up of P&P? Gossip Girl hears "Little J" will be surprised & none too pleased by the news. xoxo
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 8:25 AMBy: Is it true... Let The CTU Infighting Continue! ...That MS has paid SS's fiancee over $200,000 in fees for the Dallas case? No wonder "Little J P" doesn't want a new stepmommy! Why share the wealth? And, would that be considered a kickback?
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 9:40 AMBy: nice wedding gift Let The CTU Infighting Continue! 200k for a case that ctu will loose.

good work Stewart well it was john o and lp who pushed the issue
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 10:07 AMBy: Illegal Budget Let The CTU Infighting Continue! On May 7, 2008 Marilyn Stewart violated the Chicago Teachers Union Constitution Article VIII Sec 2 in presenting to the House of Delegates the 2007-2008 CTU budget by not preparing the 2007-2008 CTU budget through the Budget Committee as proscribed in the constitution.

Article VIII, Sec. 2
Budget Committee —The Board of Trustees; the President, the Vice President, the Recording Secretary, the Financial Secretary and the Treasurer, shall comprise the Budget Committee which shall prepare the annual budget in accordance with acceptable accounting procedures and with the assistance of the Unions certified public accountants. The chairperson of the Board of Trustees shall be the chairperson of the Budget Committee.

drk
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 10:41 AMBy: Lou Pyster Let The CTU Infighting Continue! FYI

On August 27, 2008 the Board members approved in Board Report 08-0837-AR7 the following:

"The Chief Executive Officer's representatives have reached a settlement, subject to Board approval, whereby Nicole Jackson will voluntarily terminate the Uniform Principal's contract, at Wells Community Academy High School and withdraw EEOC Charge No. 21BA82365 in exchange for assignment to a certificated administrator position effective from the present through and including August 10, 2010, with no loss of pay and benefits."

There was no report of any Wells tenured teachers being terminated.
Tue Sep 9, 2008 at 10:50 AMBy: Lou Pyster Let The CTU Infighting Continue! There are 2 separate contract articles that deal with closed campus and changing the beginning and ending times of the school day.

Please check Article 4-6 for the rule (especially the last sentence) concerning the changing of the beginning and ending times of the school day.

Please check Article 4-13 for the rules for closed campus, especially the second and last paragraphs.
Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:44 PMBy: To Is it True??? Let The CTU Infighting Continue! You know it's true - you probably introduced them when you were collecting your 6-figure salary from the mart offices. But now that you've been sent packing, you're trying to cause trouble. That's the problem with you types. Same coin flip side. Just wishin' you had old boy's ducats. When he takes his bride on their honeymoon with your pension funds, shed a few tears. You could hope what happened to your special friend happens to fat boy. Can't seem to get the image of all that huffin', puffinstuff in a speedo on a beach in the Caribbean out of my head. But you should know about a bunch of huffin and puffin.
Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 8:59 AMBy: To:Is It True? Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Yes It is.Thank you for donation.Your pension money made our trip interesting .Thanks again.
Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 12:15 PMBy: Back at cha! Let The CTU Infighting Continue! You're most certainly welcome! Is he still alive? I heard the speedo caused a bit of a problem on the honeymoon night. I heard it was still stuck. Enjoy the wealth, then you can have conjugal visits in Joliet.
Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 1:00 PMBy: Say a Prayer Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Sanctions coming today against CTU. Here's hoping justice is served in the decision. Unfortunately, it's not MS or LP who pays...it's the members. Time to rise up!
Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 1:35 PMBy: wishful thinking Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Boy, I wish we could get an accurate report on the court procedings. It seems that everything reported here is just abut the opposite of what really took place. Some people are willing to fictionalize and fabricate
just to put out the message that they want, not necessarily the message that was reallygiven. In other words, DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING (OR POSSIBLY ANYTHING) that you read on this blog.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 8:11 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! SANCTIONS POSTPONED. CHICAGO TEACHERS UNION CASE TO BE BACK IN COURT NOVEMBER 6. VICE PRESIDENT BACK AT WORK AT UNION OFFICES.

BY GEORGE N. SCHMIDT
(Exclusive to substancenews.net and district299.com)

Attorneys for the Chicago Teachers Union and CTU Vice President Ted Dallas returned to court on Thursday, September 11, for a hearing on the motion by Mr. Dallas that CTU attorneys be sanctioned for their representations to the court during the summer of 2008.

Specifically, Mr. Dallas had requested the sanctions because the CTU had told Judge Kinnard (who is hearing the case) that no adverse consequences would come to Mr. Dallas even if the CTU Executive Board were allowed to meet on the proposal that Dallas be tried and stripped of his office. The charges had been brought against him by CTU staff member Gail Koffman, Trustee Leslie Barron (a teacher at Carnegie Elementary School), and tacher Patti Walsh (Daley Elementary School).

Despite the CTU's assurance to the court, once the Executive Board had met and voted, over the strenuous objections of Mr. Dalley and his attorney to the proceedings, Mr. Dallas was immediately locked out of his office at the CTU's Merchandise Mart offices. CTU official immediately informed Chicago Public Schools officials that Dallas was no longer a "teacher on leave" to work at CTU, and the CTU had a courier deliver three boxes of Dallas's personal materials to his home after CTU officials cleaned out his Vice President's office at the union.

For more than a week, Dallas was locked out of the CTU offices and forced to begin the process of becoming a "reassigned teacher" under CPS guidelines. It was unclear during that period of time, which was just prior to the opening of school, whether Dallas would return to Wells High School. He had taught most of his career at Wells prior to his election as vice president in June 2004.

Dallas's attorney, Ruth Major, brought the information to the attention of Judge Kinnard, who immediately asked the CTU attorneys why the union had misled the court. After Judge Kinnard's questions, Dallas's attorney moved that the court "sanction" the attorneys for the union. The September 11 hearing was on a number of matters, the primary one of which was the motion for sanctions.

By the time the September 11 hearing had ended before noon, attorneys for both sides spent more than fifteen minutes writing up and agreeing to various matters that had been before the judge.

The CTU was represented on September 11 by two law firms and three lawyers. Attorneys Kurtis R. Hale and Graham Hill appeared in court on behalf of the union from the law firm of Poltrock and Poltrock. Mr. Hale refused to provide this reporter will his business card or answer any questions. Mr. Hill confirmed that he was representing the CTU and that he was part of the Poltrock law firm.

The third attorney representing CTU before Judge Kinnard was Gregory Freerksen, from another law firm that is also representing CTU. Freerksen, a partner in the firm of Whitfield, McCann & Ketterman refused to even identify himself when asked by this reporter if he were representing CTU and if he would like to comment on the case.

By September 11, CTU was represented by at least two major law firms in the Dallas case -- Whitfield, McCann & Ketterman and Poltrock and Poltrock. None of the CTU attorneys would speak to Substance about the case in court or afterwards.

At least one other law firm has reportedly made an appearance in court during the litigation.

CTU has routinely ignored requests for comment from Substance on this matter and others, so it is impossible for Substance to confirm reports from reliable sources that each attorney representing CTU is billing at $300 per hour for court appearances.

According to Dallas's attorney, Ruth Major, the court set a briefing schedule on the motion for sanctions. The parties will be filing briefs and replies between now and November 6, 2008, when they are scheduled to return to court at 10:30 a.m. in front of Judge Kinnard.

The controversial nature of the Executive Board proceedings which found Mr. Dallas "guilty" of the charges against him and expelled him from the union are now back under the jurisdiction of the court, as opposed the the jurisdiction of the CTU. The CTU has admitted that the procedural basis for expelling Mr. Dallas from the union had only been previously invoked against strikebreakers, and that the move to utilize this power of the union's Executive Board against an elected union official was unprecedented. Numerous irregularities in the proceedings themselves, all of which were permitted by the majority of the members of the Executive Board, included allowing hearsay evidence to constitute the main case against Mr. Dallas. A massive binder containing 112 pages of reports of alleged financial irregularities against Mr. Dallas had been presented as evidence during the Executive Board hearings, but the hearing officer hired by the union refused to allow Mr. Dallas to question those who had accused him about how they had gotten access to significant amounts of confidential union records.

The hearing officer, paid for by the union, is Terrance B. McGann, partner in the law firm of Whitfield, McGann & Ketterman.

By the opening week of school, Mr. Dallas had been restored to his office at the Chicago Teachers Union. As of press time for this story, Dallas was still being restricted in his duties on behalf of the union's members. Reliable sources familiar with the case have told Substance that Mr. Dallas has been ordered by Union President Marilyn Stewart to be at his office in the union from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. every day except for a one hour lunch period. Substance has also learned that John Ostenburg, who is "Chief of Staff" at the union (appointed by Marilyn Stewart) ordered Mr. Dallas to compile written reports on all of his activities since his election in 2004.

The Chicago Teachers Union has no provision in its Constitution and By-Laws for the removal or impeachment of an elected officer. Since December 2007, Marilyn Stewart has been calling herself the "Chief Executive Officer" of the CTU and invoking previously undesignated powers to issue orders to the union's other four elected officers. In addition to vice president Ted Dallas, the union's members elected Recording Secretary Mary McGuire, Financial Secretary Mark Ochoa, and Treasurer Linda Porter in the May 2007 election. Heretofore, the CTU has never been asked to remove a an elected officer from office after the union's members had elected that person.

Some estimates of the total cost of the attempt by Marilyn Stewart to fire Ted Dallas to the Chicago Teachers Union now come to a quarter million dollars. At least two law firms have been representing the union since the proceedings began in May 2008: Poltrock and Poltrock and Whitfield, McGann & Ketterman. Because Marilyn Stewart refuses to provide the union's members and delegates with any information about the actual costs of the CTU's legal work, it is impossible to confirm the costs of the Dallas activities.

Substance will continue to pursue this story and report it regularly in both its print and on line editions. www.substancenews.net.

Posted to Substancenews.net and District 299.com September 12, 2008.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 9:35 AMBy: To:wishful thinking Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Do you have a mixed feelings regarding your future @the Mart?All info are public records and can obtained online.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 9:56 AMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Thanks George for the excellent report on the court case. I can only hope that John Ostenburg also asks for that kind of detailed reporting from all other Union officers. Otherwise, it will just give Ted more ammunition.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 12:04 PMBy: Been around the CTU for 14 years Let The CTU Infighting Continue! George, you write, "The controversial nature of the Executive Boards proceedings which found Mr. Dallas "guilty" of the charges against him and expelled him from the union, are now back under the juristriction of the court, as opposed to the jurisdiction of the CTU".

Are you saying that whatever happens in the appeals, Dallas is and will continue as the Vice-President regardless of what the CTU or the AFT say/rule on? Will he be removed after the appeal to the functionals? Does the November court date ensure his presence as a union leader at least until then?

If someone out in cyberworld does not know the answers, please do not guess, or at least say you are not sure. Thank you
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 12:39 PMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Since Ted is required to sit in his office except for his hour lunch, I wonder what happens if a member asks to see him or speak to him over the phone. I have a feeling that they will say he's unavailable.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 3:10 PMBy: Karen Lewis Let The CTU Infighting Continue! To Been Around, etc.

The problem with the procedure in the Dallas removal should be crystal clear. The Executive Board is made up of the Functional Vice-Presidents and the committee chairs. Going to the Functional Vice-Presidents on appeal is a joke since they are the majority of the E-Board anyway.

What is also clear is that this is a colossal waste of time, energy and money that the CTU could use to help teachers terminated from the so-called turnaround schools and fight the corporatization of our school system. In addition, the fact that our president has decided all this should be done in secret, without question is hugely problematic. Only in the worst of dictatorships is this kind of purge seen. The one place disenfranchisement should never occur is in a Union. If there is nothing wrong with the process, then why the secrecy? We weren't allowed to bring it up at the May or June House meetings and then we got a pre-emptive letter saying anyone who brought up this issue would be ruled out of order. Does the Constitution clearly state that any member of the House can bring up any subject that is pertinent to the Union? If so, why is this, of all topics, verboten??? What could be more important?? How did school delegates get access to internal Union documents?? Especially when we are told constantly in the House of Delegates, we can't even see officer contracts, when some random delegate can see expense reports?

Brothers and Sisters, we can and should do much better than this. I hope we can move forward together in real unity and solidarity and put this ugly, petty infighting to rest.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 5:13 PMBy: To: K. Lewis Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I hope we can move forward together in real unity and solidarity and put this ugly, petty infighting to rest.

This is ugly but it's not "infighting". Ted Dallas is spending his own money to legitimately reinstate himself as a CTU officer. MS, MMG, MO are not. They are using CTU/membership dues funds to the tune of about $300,000 despite transparency, despite "cost cutting" measures, etc.

And now Rosie & Nick have an attorney showing up representing them and the CTU. AGAIN, who's paying for this? What next? Someone sues the city of Riverside and the CTU pays to defend Mr. Mayor/Chief of Staff?

The House needs to regain control and Marilyn and her cronies should no longer have their fingers on turning off the microphone switch.

Start from there Karen. Listen to what very legitimate people are saying and join in. This is NOT about ego and 1 leader. It's time for a true coalition.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 5:15 PMBy: George W's friend Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Marilyn Stewart is nothing but a cast off from George W's administration. Democracy means nothing to them or the sheep that follow them. They only care about themselves and their rich friends.

Hopefully what comes around goes around.

She is a pathetic leader.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 5:29 PMBy: We are Paying the Price Let The CTU Infighting Continue! How can someone totally forget about the people she represents? She cares more about becoming buddies with Arnie Duncan and Mayor Daley than the people that pay their dues for "union service". She is more concerned about her Cadillac and spending our money on frivoulous things. It is unbelievable how she spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on a "hearing" to get rid of another union member when she is the one destoying our union.
What a disgrace!
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 5:34 PMBy: Recall! Recall! Let The CTU Infighting Continue! People are waking up to her dictatorship! We have had enough!
Her legacy is going to be as bad as George Bush. Marilyn aren't you proud of yourself.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 5:58 PMBy: Reg Ed Let The CTU Infighting Continue! So who are the part-time grievance coordinators? Seems I remember Alex Ilich running for functional vice-president as an independent. Guess a few bucks and an outfit with zippers can change a person. What's up with the new hire being the sister of an old hire? Anybody got the goods on that???

Seems like the leadership just has to promise someone a gig and they will do their bidding. That's where all Miss CEO gets her loyal servants and henchman. That's why they'll fight to keep their pieces of silver and sell out their own.

So all of you blowhards talking about this one and that. It's all about the money and you're mad you don't have any of it. Things will never change. There's too much money at stake to loot and everyone knows, we'll continue to get sold down the river until there's nothing left. And guess what? It will be charters for all of you, cause this is my last year. I just hope my pension will last and the UPC won't give it away. Just hope she doesn't give away our pensions with some knucklehead (like that ditzy blond) they trot out to be a trustee. If they can't manage a $30 million dollar budget, how are they gonna manage our pensions! Glad I got rid of my Enron stock before the bust!
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 6:11 PMBy: Time for Marilyn to Go Let The CTU Infighting Continue! We need to recall this woman! Let's get started!
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 7:31 PMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! "...Are you saying that whatever happens in the appeals, Dallas is and will continue as the Vice-President regardless of what the CTU or the AFT say/rule on? Will he be removed after the appeal to the functionals? Does the November court date ensure his presence as a union leader at least until then?..." Anonymous. Earlier today.

I'm not the judge, but I just won a major lawsuit against the laying (nearly four years of it) by CTU officers (mostly Marilyn Stewart) and CTU attorneys (usually, Larry Poltrock). And I know the following, without having to quote sources:

The membership elected Ted Dallas Vice President of the CTU.

The CTU has no provision in its Constitution and/or by-laws for impeaching or removing an elected officer during the term of office. The provision that Marilyn Stewart invoked to "fire" Ted Dallas was one that even Marilyn's own buddy, Recording Secretary Mary McGuire, admitted in a letter to the Executive Board members (June 20, 2008, reprinted in the September 2008 Substance) had only been used to kick scabs out of the union.

In the entire 75-year history of the union, that part of the union's laws had only been used against strikebreakers.

Now I'll be following the case in court, as we already have. My colleagues and I will also be calling both "sides" for comment (just as I did yesterday in that courtroom, only to get some silly -- actually childish -- responses from two of the very expensive lawyers deployed by CTU).

As far as the people I've talked with are concerned, Ted Dallas has a contract with the members of the CTU as a result of his election. That contract cannot be abrogated by a group of people (even if they are calling themselves the "Executive Board") that take it upon themselves to kick a person out of the union based on hearsay evidence presented by three people (Koffman, Barron, and Walsh) who themselves have admitted they don't know how the materials used for their "complaint" against Dallas were compiled.

The usual standard for evidence in something as serious as this is "foundation." The people making the charges have to have actually witnessed the situations that give rise to the charges. But the three accusers were not any of the events during which Ted Dallas allegedly spoke rudely to some staff members, or supposedly overcharged for reimburseable expenses.

I watched Marilyn Stewart lie at least twice during our case, and others from CTU staff assemble a tissue of lies as flimsy as the one that is now supposed to hold Dallas. Specifically, at various times during the case (which lasted nearly four years) Marilyn Stewart or Larry Poltrock made representations of fact that supposedly justified Marilyn Stewart's having fired me (and seven others) from our contracually protected jobs for "cause." Over time, the "cause" varied, some of it simply ludicrous.

For example, someone on CTU staff wiped out the directories on the hard drives that were on the computers that many of us used. Then Marilyn Stewart's side claimed that the reason why they had fired us was that we hadn't done any work (the evidence: those blank hard drives).

I personally sat with all of our lawyers in the union offices when Larry Poltrock learned (from me) that the hard drives didn't have to be saved, because the CTU's own mini-computer operating on the UNIX system backed up all contents every 24 hours. The back ups were about 50 feet from where we were sitting at that meeting. Poltrock left the meeting, got one of the union's staff people (one of the few who knows computers) to scan the backups, and then came back and admitted that there was a huge amount of data in the backups for every person he had just claimed hadn't been doing any work. (Most of us had also saved some paper records; some of my work was reported in the Chicago Union Teacher -- for example that massive school safety conference I organized for CTU in April 2004).

That's what I mean by what I say.

But in my reporting, I'll rely not only on my own experience with these people, but also on sources who will be quoted on the record as this very expensive and significantly foolish thingy continues.

The members of the Chicago Teachers Union this year are paying $900 in union dues.

Yesterday those union dues paid for, among other things, several hours of legal work by Graham Hill, Kurtis Hale and Gregory Freerksen.

Most of the downtown lawyers I know charge $300 per hour or more for court appearances. At the least, yesterday cost the members of the CTU several thousand dollars. The papers that are now being prepared towards the next hearing (November 6) will cost the members of the CTU additional thousands of dollars.

Every member of the union has the right to get the answers I'll continue to ask Marilyn Stewart from now until this matter is resolved.

As to people who wants to sling muck around here and beg several questions, next time these events are in court we'll let everyone know in advance. Then you can go there and see and hear for yourselves what's going on.

It will be one of the few ways you'll learn. Marilyn Stewart has not asked the CTU Executive Board of House of Delegates to authorize the hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal expenses she's using to continue the witch hunt against Ted Dallas. On the basis of that fact alone, it is Marilyn Stewart, not Ted Dallas who should be under investigation. The union now has a $3 million loan (Amalgamated Bank) it's repaying at the rate of at least $78,000 per month!

So naturally the President of the union will continue to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers against Ted Dallas, just as she wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers against myself and the seven other people whose contracts were violated by Marilyn Stewart and her cronies when they fired us.

Remember. All Marilyn Stewart had to do in 2004 was to keep us working at our jobs until our legal contracts expired (on June 30, 2005). Instead, she chose to play Donald Trump and bellow (to me, first, in front of the whole staff at the union's offices):

"YOU'RE FIRED!"

Well, that was one expensive blovation.

Now we're facing another of precisely the same type.

The Chicago Teachers Union doesn't run on the same basis as Donald Trump's outfit, and the members of the Chicago Teachers Union didn't elect a "Chief Executive Officer" in May 2004 and May 2007. They elected a president. If that president did half as good a job at defending the members and taking our case public as she has done ridiculously playing Donald Trump, everyone would have been better off, and the union's treasury a lot better off.

But the lawyers, I'm sure, are being paid now, as they were every time we watched them in action (or read their expensive prose) during the nearly four years of the case called "Schmidt v. Chicago Teachers Union."
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 10:23 PMBy: Suprised Let The CTU Infighting Continue! Do you want to say that our lovely fat pretty woman (subject to perception)knowingly and willfully spent a lot of money for the purpose to make our union weaker?Do you think that the HOD could make her liable for the financial loss?
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 10:34 PMBy: Baffled Let The CTU Infighting Continue! I am a bit confused. Did the judge in Dallas' case take away the authority of the executive board and the CTU? Will Dallas remain as vice-president until the circuit court judge decides he can be removed?
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 11:56 PMBy: Marricat Let The CTU Infighting Continue! The judge didn't take away the power of the Executive Board because they never had the power to fire an elected official in the first place. He's just holding the Union and the Executive Board to the same standards that any other group would have to follow. I think Marilyn should be responsible for paying the Union members back every cent that she's wasted.
Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 1:28 AMBy: stewart violates the law Let The CTU Infighting Continue! In the case of NLRB v. Boeing Co.,(48) the Supreme Court ruled that a union constitution is a contract between a union and its members, and is enforceable in state court under principles of state contract law.

48. 412 U.S. 67 (1973)

The federal Landrum-Griffin Act provides a "Bill of Rights of Members of Labor Organizations" that contains several safeguards against the improper imposition of disciplinary action.(62) Some of this safeguards may be used as defenses to a union's lawsuit to collect fines. Section 101(a)(5) of the Landrum-Griffin Act delineates the minimum procedural protections that must be given to union members before they can be subjected to union discipline: "No member of any labor organization may be fined, suspended, expelled, or otherwise disciplined except for nonpayment of dues by such organization or by any officer thereof unless such member has been (A) served with written specific charges; (B) given a reasonable time to prepare his defense; (C) afforded a full and fair hearing."

62. 29 U.S.C. § 401 et seq., also known as the Labor Management Reporting and Disclosure Act.
Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 4:53 AMBy: George N. Schmidt Let The CTU Infighting Continue! For years, Chicago Teachers Union officials have ignored the Landrum Griffin Act. One of the most immediate results of compliance with the Act would be that CTU would be forced to report (in an LM-2) all of its expenses in detail. A lot of the silly arguing and posturing about CTU finances would be cleared up all at once if CTU were to file the required financial disclosure material (the LM2) under Landrum Griffin. It's time that CTU voluntarily complied with the reporting. This is already done by AFT, IFT, New York (Local 2), and other locals. In Chicago, Local 73 of SEIU (where I worked a couple of years ago) files its LM2 reports every year. Local 73 represents the second largest group of unionized workers working for the Chicago Public Schools.

The union leadership should be forced to file the LM2 reports, and to prepare and file them going back about ten years. Then a lot of this stuff would suddenly go away.

For example, the LM2 for Randi Weingarten's local (United Federation of Teachers, New York City, Local 2 AFT, AFL-CIO) was filed by Randi (Rhonda) Weingarten on December 6, 2007 for the year 2006. It is 219 pages long. By reading it, anyone can learn how much every officer, executive board member and other staff person was paid, how much the union paid to outside lawyers and other vendors, etc.

Reading the LM2 report for SEIU Local 73 (which represents security, custodial, and some other workers in CPS) you would learn that President Christine Boardman's total compensation for 2006 was more than $140,000, etc.

Why is Marilyn Stewart allowed to get away with not disclosing what Randi Weingarten and Christine Boardman have disclosed every year?

And the LM2 reports are available on line at the U.S. Department of Labor site. Anyone who wants to can go there and learn a great deal about almost all unions -- except the Chicago Teachers Union.

Last thing:

I'm convinced that Marilyn Stewart would not have tried to get away with all the apparently crooked self-dealing by some staff (Go Promotions; Newsmakers) and added perks for her inner circle (the 53 week "year" for staff; the pensionable car allowance, etc.) if she had been forced to disclose information via the LM2 reports.

And that is why the federal government passed that law 50 years ago. Union members deserve better than the treatment we've been receiving from Marilyn Stewart. Basically, what we've gotten since the extent of her financial mismanagement became clear is "Don't blame me..." and "It's everybody else's fault..." but "It's none of your business, really..."
Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 7:44 AMBy: Retired Principal L